Orbxtreme Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 There is no aircraft in the sky around the Port Moresby Jacksons (AYPY) virtual airport today. No aircraft in the sky but one, a medevac flight. The winds blow from 240 degree at 50G60 kts and the runways are oriented 14/32. It is way above the maximum crosswind authorized for any aircraft. But the Rockwell Shrike Commander’s crew cannot wait until the wind calms down. They must land in the next few minutes in order to save a patient’s life. As there is no traffic around, the captain has told ATC he intends to do a safe, efficient but non-standard approach. Arriving straight across the runways, facing the wind, the crew intends to land the aircraft a few feet short of a hangar. The captain requests that someone opens the hangar doors right away. The captain will terminate the approach in the hangar, protected from the wind. It is safer to arrive facing the wind and immediately enter the hangar, straight ahead. No taxiing with a 60 knots crosswind. Useless to say, ATC has already refused the request. But the pilot is the only one who decides of the best landing surface, for the safety of the passengers and himself. He proceeds with the approach after having clearly indicated which path will be followed. The main problem for the approach is the low level mechanical turbulence caused by the gusty 60 kts winds. If ATC wants to file a complaint, now is a good time to take a picture of the aircraft and its registration to support the case. The actual ground speed of the airplane is around 20 kts. The steady high wind speed is actually safer for the crew than if the winds were 240 at 35G60. Still a bit above the runway and with a 10-20 knots ground speed. The airspeed indicator shows the strength of the wind itself plus the ground speed. Floating like a hot air balloon or almost! As the aircraft touches the ground, it stops almost immediately. It is necessary to apply power to reach the hangar, as you can see with the white trail on the ground behind the aircraft. In real life, the touch-down would have had to be as soon as the asphalt start since the presence of the hangar lowers the wind speed a bit. A few seconds after the touch-down, the aircraft is in the hangar, protected from the wind, and both doctor and patient can quickly head out to the hospital. Once in the hangar, the winds were adjusted to zero, which is kind of logical, unless the opposite wall is missing! It was now time to brace for another storm, which was the inquiry that would possibly follow the landing! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Not quite sure if this is the right way do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper31 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Very interesting emergency flight. Nice screenshots and narration to go along with this medevac flight Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bermuda425 said: Not quite sure if this is the right way do it! Certainly not the standard way, I agree! It is done in smaller airports though, where there is no ATC. I witnessed some of those in the Arctic. Just now, Sniper31 said: Very interesting emergency flight. Nice screenshots and narration to go along with this medevac flight Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.... In Inukjuak (CYPH) I saw a Twin Otter land on the sand runway, but on its width, not its length. The winds were coming straight from the Hudson Bay at such a speed and with a direct crosswind to the runway, so it was much safer to arrive facing the wind instead of fighting the crosswind. The pilot landed the DHC-6 almost like an helicopter. He had to keep the engines running while on the ground, for safety reasons...The only risk was that just beside the landing path was Environment Canada Upper Air Station with a building container an hydrogen reserve. It could have made a huge fireball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 A great post Francois! Very interesting landing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styckx Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This seems legit. Source: I got my NTSB certification by playing Grand Theft Auto V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
European Mountain Man Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 super shots and what a landing regards EMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Thoroughly enjoyable images and narration. I have learned something today reading your story about the Twin Otter and not realising this actually happens! Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, styckx said: This seems legit. Source: I got my NTSB certification by playing Grand Theft Auto V Thanks! Yes it is legit, but it does not mean that ATC likes it! So normally it would have been done in a smaller aerodrome, not at AYPY! 1 hour ago, European Mountain Man said: super shots and what a landing regards EMM Thanks Stewart, glad you liked. Actually, you would be surprised at how easy it is. Just set very high winds at 90 degree from a runway of your choice, and make the approach. I assure you you won't kill anyone! 45 minutes ago, VH-KDK said: Thoroughly enjoyable images and narration. I have learned something today reading your story about the Twin Otter and not realising this actually happens! Great stuff. On an airport where there is no positive control zone, for example where there is a class E control zone, we've had airplanes arriving at both ends of a runway, facing each other, at the same distance from the threshold. When things go serious, we would encourage pilots talk to each other, announce their intentions, and this facilitated the movements around the airport. So if a pilot would have told us he intended to land on a taxiway perpendicular to a runway, providing he had legitimate reasons to do it (safety reasons, emergency or whatever else), then he would announce his intentions and he was responsible to ensure that the surface he intends to land on what appropriate for his type of aircraft and the actual weather conditions. I never heard of crash caused by that procedure. There might have been, but I never heard of any. When a DHC-4 comes your way, he certainly does not need a typical runway. In Inukjuak, DHC-4s would come in fully loaded with construction material; you would hear them before you could see them, because of the reflection of the sound on Hudson Bay. When they touched the runway, they stopped almost immediately, although they were really loaded!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifejogger Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I have to say this is he first time I have seen anyone land in a Hangar!!!!!! Great shots of it and super flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 François that was incredible and one of the most interesting posts I've seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic1 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 cool post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelab6 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Great story and shots ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Orbxtreme said: When a DHC-4 comes your way, he certainly does not need a typical runway. In Inukjuak, DHC-4s would come in fully loaded with construction material; you would hear them before you could see them, because of the reflection of the sound on Hudson Bay. When they touched the runway, they stopped almost immediately, although they were really loaded!! I have been to a few airshows where the Caribou has performed and it is always one of the highlights for me. An amazing aircraft with incredible performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingleaf Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Great shots and a great story. However if I would've been the patient; if not dead, you would've had a heck of a lot of cleaning to do in your aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambar Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 You don't see that every day Francois, and that's a good thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Very nice. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmorin Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Great flight planning and execution! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 11 hours ago, flyingleaf said: Great shots and a great story. However if I would've been the patient; if not dead, you would've had a heck of a lot of cleaning to do in your aircraft Thanks, glad you liked. As for the cleaning, they say that being a pilot involves accepting risks (but they don't stipulate exactly which kind of risks when you train...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lars Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 This was hilarious and refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 What a fantastic work - and screenshot collection, Francois! On 11.4.2018 at 7:19 PM, Orbxtreme said: the Rockwell Shrike Commander’s crew cannot wait This crew was really committed. Now let me know how you will start with this crosswind. And how you convince ATC to give you permission. Or just... how you got internet access in the PNG prison to post this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanoid Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I supposed that once disembarked the patient doctors on board your plane went urgently to the control tower to attend the controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Stillwater said: What a fantastic work - and screenshot collection, Francois! This crew was really committed. Now let me know how you will start with this crosswind. And how you convince ATC to give you permission. Or just... how you got internet access in the PNG prison to post this post? The temperature in the prison in kind of warm, but you should see the size of the spiders! 2 hours ago, Arkanoid said: I supposed that once disembarked the patient doctors on board your plane went urgently to the control tower to attend the controller. Even the patient went up the tower to help since the controller was in a worst shape them him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradB Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 One heck of a post Francois !! . Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, BradB said: One heck of a post Francois !! . Cheers John Thanks John, glad you liked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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