John Venema Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hello all, As you know we are planning an ambitious program to create custom landclass for the entire world, and with each region pack will come unique new textures to provide for the most accurate regional LC possible. So here are some new work-in-progress textures in our testing area which will be used in the Netherlands, Bulgaria, Poland, Germany, and the Scandinavian countries. These are alpha shots and we don't expect to enter full beta testing until January, with a release of openLC EU in February. The scale of this project is just enormous and we don't want to rush it. Doing so will remove the unique goals we're setting with the project, to truly give the entire planet a unique look and feel with custom textures. So if you can imagine these sorts of new textures sitting on top of FTXG BASE and FTXG VECTOR, you'll begin to get an idea of what we want to achieve. We'll bring you many more shots over the coming 5-6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpreou Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Too cool, but I do begin to wonder what value-add you might be able to provide in future full-fat regions once you get all the base work completed? Would it be even further improved? Photo-real stuff? Hand-placed objects, POIs, etc? Enhanced 'default' airports? What? Amazed at what you guys are doing with FSX/P3D. Even so, I'm sure when you release some people will moan like the clappers and be aggressive, abusive and rude without first trying to determine 'why' whatever their particular beef is; seems to be a more commonly occurring response for some reason, especially by newbies to the forums. Wish you every success; really looking forward to your future, since mine own is somewhat related to it ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Photo-real stuff? Hand-placed objects, POIs, etc? Enhanced 'default' airports? What? All of these are already in our full-fat regions. Don't expect openLC to become something more substantial than our FTX regions are, that would be eating our own lunch! We have a strategy for openLC that involves creating a "V2 Plus" openLC series from 2015-2017 that adds a lot more detail for villages and smaller areas < 1km in grid size. At that time we will consider POI objects and other enhancements for parts of the world where we'll be unlikely to do full-fat regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boetie Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Oh my! Superb modelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpreou Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The way you guys keep refining and improving FSX & P3D is very exciting for all us simmers. Love it! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardreamer Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Wow that's amazing keep it coming Dreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavart Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Good thing I'm liquidating my model collection.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca22au Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Amazing. Looking forward to its on time release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Presumably the bright red in the first few shots is an alpha-only thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Presumably the bright red in the first few shots is an alpha-only thing ? Not at all, it is during tulip season, just like this real-world photo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtail99 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 These shots look more like regions with hand-placed LC. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT707 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Excellent content. Looking forward to learning more and more information is available. Keep up the great work John and team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lovell Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Incredible!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosteen Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Very nice! Looking forward to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Very nice and VIBRANT ! Bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marith Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 These look awesome and I look forward to its release next year. Flight Simming just gets better and better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capnsully Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 John and team, I reckon you're onto a good thing here, esp. after my just purchasing Global. There's potential to create more detailed versions of the regions that won't be getting the full-fat treatment, for years to come! And yet it already looks so cool.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockliffe Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Unbelievable JV! I'm glad you explained about the tulip thing as I was just about to add the same comments about the oversaturated tulips! In fact, your scenery looks more realistic than the real photos. They surely have been oversaturated in the processing stage? I hope I have some spondoolies in my account after christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brito Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 JV, as you can see in these posts, we are all anxious. We bet on Orbx: we know that she knows what we want. Cheers, Sinesio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBird Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Very, very nice indeed! Amazing! Are soccer-field part of the landclass data? Just one more thing: Is it possible to use the hard winter textures only when there is hard winter? Could the weather engine make the adjustment between winter and hard winter? For example: Currently in Germany it is cold but we have no snow. If I fly in FTXG today the country is white! Any chance to have a custome textures? Something like Weather-Flow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phmak Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It looks great . Almost like our photografic scenery ;-) Joop NL2000team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Very, very nice indeed! Amazing! Are soccer-field part of the landclass data? Just one more thing: Is it possible to use the hard winter textures only when there is hard winter? Could the weather engine make the adjustment between winter and hard winter? For example: Currently in Germany it is cold but we have no snow. If I fly in FTXG today the country is white! Any chance to have a custome textures? Something like Weather-Flow? Hard winter is controlled by the global seasons.bgl, so we may look into using the same tech as our FTX regions whereby we create custom seasons files to more accurately depict when snow is on the ground. No promises though; it's important to remain focused on what this is, predominantly a landclass product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emin Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Thanks for sharing these shots with us John! They're amazing. By the way, is Turkey covered by this pack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgoggi Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Great, but the February release of Europe LC will be what initially was planned to be released in December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdoo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I like those colors, feels like home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hamilton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Europeans must really love their tulips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave302 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hard winter is controlled by the global seasons.bgl, so we may look into using the same tech as our FTX regions whereby we create custom seasons files to more accurately depict when snow is on the ground. No promises though; it's important to remain focused on what this is, predominantly a landclass product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mink Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 What i am most intetested is how will southern europe look with the EU LC. Ok 2 months to go:-) The shown pictures are looking great. Kresimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guenseli Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Europeans must really love their tulips. Noooo, no, no, no... this is not all Europe, just Netherlands. Biiiiig difference - especially if it comes to football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenicoll Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 If I'm not mistaken I can even see John "Tip Toeing" through the tulips Forgive my ignorance.. Will the LC product stop me seeing those horrible default roads that cut through buildings and estates like they are overlayed on the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILOU Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Very good job !!! Thank John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Not at all, it is during tulip season, just like this real-world photo: Blimey, they are bright ! Okay, well, if thats the real world, I can't argue with it - but I'd put something about it in the FAQs if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 We could release it in December but I am sure you guys don't want to beta test a product As I keep saying over and over, all our roadmap release estimates are just that - estimates. No software company should ever give actual release dates for products unless you are EA releasing a first person shooter franchise with a $300 million budget and a staff of 200 developers to finish it. NCA has been pushed out to January, openLC to February, just the way it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyMotion Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 We could release it in December but I am sure you guys don't want to beta test a product As I keep saying over and over, all our roadmap release estimates are just that - estimates. No software company should ever give actual release dates for products unless you are EA releasing a first person shooter franchise with a $300 million budget and a staff of 200 developers to finish it. NCA has been pushed out to January, openLC to February, just the way it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddler Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 JV as always we expect that you would do it right and not rush it to meet some arbitrary deadline. Patience is a virtue! Just wish I had some virtue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ba43 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 JV, I love all the preview images from you and appreciate you sharing these with us. I have to ask how you get over the one thing that LC products in the past always seemed to not be able to avoid. Repeating texture tiles in close proximity. I did see some of this in the Iceland demo just released about a month or so ago where there were repeating small rural residence tiles outside of Reykjavik. But nothing like when you're flying over pastures and fields and then noticing the same pastures and fields repeating over and over again but just rotated around in placement. These look very promising and I look forward to more previews of your LC products. Thanks again, Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Looking very good - the future and the shots ! Really glad to hear about V2 plus LC products coming down the track . I have an interest in areas North and west of the Himalayas , looks like interesting country. Great work team , keep it going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Just amazed at the quality of what is being done with LC. I'll be there waiting for the different LC downloads as they are completed, that you can count on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Beet fields in Northern France might be less glamourous than tulips in Holland. hey ! Just kidding, you do good ! Really good. I long to see your vineyards on hillsides too (I'm French ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maikel Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Will it also be possible too see when a farmer used fertilizer on his fields? ;-) Maikel Rozemeijer The Netherlands (land from the tulips that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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