Jack Sawyer Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I made a test flight yesterday over Bilbao in the A319. I put only 1000 pounds of fuel on board and flew around till I ran out of gas just to see what would happen. Well, I circedla round for a bit and everything went quiet, no engines, nothing, so I dead sticked it in for a perfect landing. I loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingleaf Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Great shots Jack. Children don't try this at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, flyingleaf said: Great shots Jack. Children don't try this at home Thanks Karl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musterpilot Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Great shots Jack John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, musterpilot said: Great shots Jack John Much appreciated John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luquinhas Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 That is very cool, Jack! Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Luquinhas said: That is very cool, Jack! Congratulations. Thanks! It was a very interesting challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieflyer38 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Excellent shots Captain Jack, and you saved the lives of 150 people on board Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmorin Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Very courageous Jack! I do not recommend this in real life. But it is why we used to practice dead stick approaches to a fixed spot. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradB Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Too bad about your bingo fuel situation Jack , at least you and your PAX survived ...... Reminds me of a RL story many years ago up in Canada : Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Aussieflyer38 said: Excellent shots Captain Jack, and you saved the lives of 150 people on board Don Thanks Don! I was great practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, gregmorin said: Very courageous Jack! I do not recommend this in real life. But it is why we used to practice dead stick approaches to a fixed spot. Greg I wouldn’t either but like you said Greg, it’s great practice in the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 But I went bingo on purpose John, to see what would happen. It was a cool lesson. And yes sir, I remember this well, when I was in all the 767 schools we covered this in detail, good thing he was a glider pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olderndirt Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 As a controller at Anchorage TRACON, the bane of my existence was the Elmendorf T-33's and their monthly SFO (simulated flame out). Though they were VFR over the base, they simulated no avionics and were a lousy primary target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, olderndirt said: As a controller at Anchorage TRACON, the bane of my existence was the Elmendorf T-33's and their monthly SFO (simulated flame out). Though they were VFR over the base, they simulated no avionics and were a lousy primary target. That must have been cool to see OND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olderndirt Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jack Sawyer said: That must have been cool to see OND. Never 'saw' them. Was sitting in front of a radar scope trying to keep track of them 'cause one of our SID's climbed right over the base airspace (3000 and below) and the SFO's started at 5500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, olderndirt said: Never 'saw' them. Was sitting in front of a radar scope trying to keep track of them 'cause one of our SID's climbed right over the base airspace (3000 and below) and the SFO's started at 5500. Cool stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patful Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Was there simulated cursing during and applause after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, patful said: Was there simulated cursing during and applause after? Nope, they offered me money to do it again but this time inverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambar Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 There isn't any situation that Jack can't handle, well, almost. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifejogger Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 A self induced emergency. You could have just shut the engines down. Nice shots of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Great shots Jack. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 6 hours ago, adambar said: There isn't any situation that Jack can't handle, well, almost. Well done! Thanks Adam, very much appreciate your sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 6 hours ago, lifejogger said: A self induced emergency. You could have just shut the engines down. Nice shots of it. Thanks John, I did this because I was trying to reproduce what happened to me the other day on a flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Iain Emms said: Great shots Jack. cheers Iain Thanks again Iain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 An interesting experiment and some good piloting skills to get your plane safely back on the ground again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, VH-KDK said: An interesting experiment and some good piloting skills to get your plane safely back on the ground again. Thanks Martyn. I was making a nice flight from Miami to St. Maarten the other day when at 35K feet the entire plane shut off. Well, I found out it was a known but VERY rare bug in their plane. So they told me to upgrade to the experiment version. In my post someone said I probably ran out of fuel. So I wanted to duplicate this to see if it was the same result. It wasn't. The first was a bug and the second one was different. I could still use the battery. I just wish Aerosoft had added a RAT (ram air turbine) to this plane. I worked this system on real jets, it's a propellor that drops down from the belly. But you know something? I don't know if the A319 has one! All the Boeings do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Jack Sawyer said: Thanks Martyn. I was making a nice flight from Miami to St. Maarten the other day when at 35K feet the entire plane shut off. Well, I found out it was a known but VERY rare bug in their plane. So they told me to upgrade to the experiment version. In my post someone said I probably ran out of fuel. So I wanted to duplicate this to see if it was the same result. It wasn't. The first was a bug and the second one was different. I could still use the battery. I just wish Aerosoft had added a RAT (ram air turbine) to this plane. I worked this system on real jets, it's a propellor that drops down from the belly. But you know something? I don't know if the A319 has one! All the Boeings do though. Yes, from what I can remember the CS 777 has a RAT on it. I was a passenger in an A22 Foxbat that did a dead stick landing at Temora many years ago. The pilot was a flight instructor and it was so interesting to have the experience. There was no emergency, he was just demonstrating what the plane could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, VH-KDK said: Yes, from what I can remember the CS 777 has a RAT on it. I was a passenger in an A22 Foxbat that did a dead stick landing at Temora many years ago. The pilot was a flight instructor and it was so interesting to have the experience. There was no emergency, he was just demonstrating what the plane could do. I just looked it up, the 320 has a RAT but can't find if a 319 does. Those things are amazing, they have to be put in cages when powered in test on the ground, they're loud as heck and could kill a person in a split second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 This one does Jack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 He had his engines running, must have been deliberately deployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbypickett Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Jack. looking at your Avatar I would be frightened getting on board with 100% fuel. ( only joking) cheers Gumby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, gumbypickett said: Jack. looking at your Avatar I would be frightened getting on board with 100% fuel. ( only joking) cheers Gumby Thanks Gumby, that's Fred Nerd from Comic Strip Factory, it's what I use to make comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbypickett Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Sure it is, (Just between you and me) no one else needs to know. cheers Gumby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Great shots & idea. Do you remember the FSX mission when your engines get off over the Maledives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Stillwater said: Great shots & idea. Do you remember the FSX mission when your engines get off over the Maledives? Thanks Gerold, that was one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernd1151 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Great idea, Jack. Dou you remember the Canadian A330 that lost all engine power while flying over the Atlantic Ocean in 2001. It ran out of fuel due to a leak caused by improper maintenance. Again, the captain was an experienced glider, so he managed to glide the plane with 306 people on board without power (but the RAT deployed) for 65 nautical miles to the next emergency airport on the Azores. All people survived! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, bernd1151 said: Great idea, Jack. Dou you remember the Canadian A330 that lost all engine power while flying over the Atlantic Ocean in 2001. It ran out of fuel due to a leak caused by improper maintenance. Again, the captain was an experienced glider, so he managed to glide the plane with 306 people on board without power (but the RAT deployed) for 65 nautical miles to the next emergency airport on the Azores. All people survived! Thanks Bernd. Yes, it seems like so long ago. I gotta hand it to these pilots, and it shows just how redundant these aircraft really are. I mean they have backups upon backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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