Ed Correia Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hi all, We are pleased to announce that we will be releasing this week the complete TrueEarth Great Britain series for P3Dv4 - Great Britain Central, Great Britain North as well as the much anticipated Version 2 for Great Britain South. This all-new version for Great Britain South adjusts other areas of the product to represent the region in higher detail. TrueEarth Great Britain South v2 also extends the original coverage area to now include an additional 3000 km2 of high-definition imagery. This brings the total coverage area to 195,064 km² of stunning British landscape. This update focuses significantly on performance, ensuring that you have the same stunning visual appearance whilst enhancing usability. New techniques have been discovered to improve the autogen, along with giving users the choice to use the simulator's settings to adjust scenery density depending on their personal system. These techniques have been carried over to Great Britain Central and North. Version 2 for Great Britain South will be a free update to existing customers and we plan to have an exciting offer to complete the whole package. Keep an eye out for the release announcement for more details! This product set is perfect for those looking for an exciting VFR flying experience around one of the most stunning places in the world. From rich golden coasts and lush green fields to urban cities and towering complexes, you won’t find a more comprehensive and up-to-date British flying experience anywhere! Features for all 3 regions Hand corrected, crisp, color-matched aerial imagery *New* Configurable options for those looking for additional performance gains Accurate building shapes to precisely match the ortho imagery footprints Millions of trees at the correct height and location Buildings at the correct height and location VFR landmarks such as masts, windfarms, churches, power-lines, castles, stadiums and lighthouses Hundreds of custom-modelled 3D POIs Hand-placed and custom modelled landmarks Sharp and detailed 10-meter mesh for South & Central and 20-meter mesh for North Superb watermasking along the entire coastline Summer season only with full night-lighting supported Coverage area Enjoy these screenshots! Southampton Edinburgh Leeds Manchester Lake District Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Really excited, this will provide plenty of flying over the holiday season. Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieBrooks Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Awesome! Does the new South include the POI's added to the Xplane Version? i.e. bespoke stadiums etc? Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannow Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Well excited I have been a critic of te in the UK. Look forward to south v2 .if works fine day 1 purchase of the rest Probably buy them anyway outside of Southampton and London te is great so why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wroblewski Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, JamieBrooks said: Does the new South include the POI's added to the Xplane Version? i.e. bespoke stadiums etc? It includes all landmarks added in the X-Plane version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F737MAX Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It's been a loooong wait. Very happy that all 3 products are within touching distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieBrooks Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tony Wroblewski said: It includes all landmarks added in the X-Plane version Awesome! A spin over Vale Park will be the first action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Wow Ed, you made my holidays perfect! Thanks a lot (a big lot!) to all developers! You are great! Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Lee Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Wow! Looks amazing! just out of interest, are there any plans to add seasonal variations to TE GB in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsage Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Ed - Great news. I'll have to add an SSD to my system. Can you tells us how much storage will be needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Low Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I will be buying Central and North (and updating to v2 of South) as soon as my new PC build is complete this Christmas. It is not the most powerful PC on the planet, but it is significantly more powerful than the one I have been using for the past five years, so hopefully I will be able to enjoy TrueEarth GB at a new level of detail and performance On a side note......has that autogen exclusion problem short left of the runway 20 threshold been addressed when using TrueEarth GB South with the ORBx Southampton package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hello silentsage, the installed sizes I see are, in round numbers: South 46 GB Central 22 GB North 26 GB TEGB libraries 12 GB TEGB Libraries are required by all of the products but will only be installed once. If a customer chooses to have only one part, then that part will have an extra 12GB over and above its own size, but if the same customer then decides to add one or both of the other parts, the size of the installation will rise only by the size of the part itself. I understand that an existing version of TEGB South will be removed by the installer and completely replaced by version 2 which is about 10GB smaller in itself than version 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin J Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 This is good! I was afraid it would all be too big, but this should install after some creative moving around of other sceneries. Very exciting! Thanks for posting those numbers. I'm eager to see what performance will be like around London with this new South v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelipe Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Will the autogen problems, like missing autogen trees around some add on airports (Compton Abbas for example) will be fixed with the South update?. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Cedergren Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 North is only 26 gb installed? Is that 1m/pixel or is this a 2m/pixel SD version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha Normann Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, feelipe said: Will the autogen problems, like missing autogen trees around some add on airports (Compton Abbas for example) will be fixed with the South update?. Yes, the airports each will receive an autogen update that closed the gap around their PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha Normann Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Flygsidan said: North is only 26 gb installed? Is that 1m/pixel or is this a 2m/pixel SD version? There's no SD version for P3D. The resolution will be 0.0000106871 by 0.0000106871 degrees, which in TE GB North/Scotland (depending on latitude) roughly translates to a horizontal resolution of ~0.65 meters and a vertical resolution of ~1.19 meters. Visually not any different to what you know from TE GB South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On a closer look: Are there still green roads in some places which I found quite distracting in South v1? The second Leeds image makes me a bit unsure about this. Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, pmb said: On a closer look: Are there still green roads in some places which I found quite distracting in South v1? The second Leeds image makes me a bit unsure about this. Kind regards, Michael The colour balancing used for the ortho imagery is not always perfect process and green-ish roads may occur in places. I am sure however that overall the imagery is well balanced across GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-mike Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Before installing TE Great Britain,can we uninstall EU England,Wales and Scotland? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Low Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Of course you can. They are completely separate products. I guess the only concern would be ORBx Cardiff Airport, which is (as far as I am aware) linked to the FTX Wales product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-mike Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Thank you,Chris. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, John Venema said: The colour balancing used for the ortho imagery is not always perfect process and green-ish roads may occur in places. I am sure however that overall the imagery is well balanced across GB. Thanks! Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: Of course you can. They are completely separate products. I guess the only concern would be ORBx Cardiff Airport, which is (as far as I am aware) linked to the FTX Wales product? I thought FTX GB included numerous ORBX-enhanced airports which you would loose when uninstalling the LC-based FTX GB sceneries? Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha Normann Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, pmb said: I thought FTX GB included numerous ORBX-enhanced airports which you would loose when uninstalling the LC-based FTX GB sceneries? The same upgraded airports will be delivered with TrueEarth Great Britain, so there's no need to worry about losing something. As for For EGFF Cardiff, correct. The detailed airport only comes with FTX Wales so if you want to keep it, you just need to keep FTX Wales installed (the FTX VFR scenery will disappear under TrueEarth but the airport will remain on top). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieBrooks Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Sascha Normann said: The same upgraded airports will be delivered with TrueEarth Great Britain, so there's no need to worry about losing something. As for For EGFF Cardiff, correct. The detailed airport only comes with FTX Wales so if you want to keep it, you just need to keep FTX Wales installed (the FTX VFR scenery will disappear under TrueEarth but the airport will remain on top). I found with TE South having it over FTX England deteriorated the performance. Maybe an option to purchase Cardiff separately would be useful and FOC for Wales owners for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hello Jamie, the perfectly practical solution is to leave EGFF as it is, inside its own folder and with its own scenery library entry and either deactivate EU Wales in the scenery library or manually remove it, if disk space is critical. Although from a sales point of view, it is included in the EU Wales product, EGFF is a free standing airport that does not require EU Wales to be installed, if there is a TEGB product in its place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sascha Normann said: The same upgraded airports will be delivered with TrueEarth Great Britain, so there's no need to worry about losing something. As for For EGFF Cardiff, correct. The detailed airport only comes with FTX Wales so if you want to keep it, you just need to keep FTX Wales installed (the FTX VFR scenery will disappear under TrueEarth but the airport will remain on top). Thanks Sascha, good to know, that's an excellent solution. I'll also consider Nick's remark on Cardiff. Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-mike Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Conclusion---let the EU Regions installed and install TE GB on top of them? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieBrooks Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello Jamie, the perfectly practical solution is to leave EGFF as it is, inside its own folder and with its own scenery library entry and either deactivate EU Wales in the scenery library or manually remove it, if disk space is critical. Although from a sales point of view, it is included in the EU Wales product, EGFF is a free standing airport that does not require EU Wales to be installed, if there is a TEGB product in its place. Thanks Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Before I had deinstalled EU Wales I made a copy of the EGFF folder and after installung TE south I put it back into the ORBX-folder with the EU airports. As far as I know there is no other place where ORBX EGFF resides so I have EGFF in is full beauty without having EU Wales behind. Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I have a question, simply because I like flying in the correct seasons, although I suspect I would use this product for Spring and early Fall as well. If I want Winter in the UK, would I simply have to uncheck/disable them in Orbx Central? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfirth Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 hours ago, pmb said: On a closer look: Are there still green roads in some places which I found quite distracting in South v1? The second Leeds image makes me a bit unsure about this. Kind regards, Michael There are some greenish roads, but I think they are more than balanced out by: a) the consistent colourisation of the scenery, unmatched by any UK PR product to date b) the price, (sure it would be possible to mask out and recolour all the roads in the imagery, but the extra time and effort would likely mean the scenery was less profitable or would cost more) I think the TE-GB S scenery came in for a lot of unjustified stick, as well as some fair constructive criticism. This rebooted version sounds like it will address a lot of the latter and I'm very much looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Low Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I can't wait to see it in action on my new PC build! I would love to think that I could display London with all of the custom buildings, even if framerates were low. I just want to be able to see everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 18 hours ago, Sascha Normann said: The same upgraded airports will be delivered with TrueEarth Great Britain, so there's no need to worry about losing something. As for For EGFF Cardiff, correct. The detailed airport only comes with FTX Wales so if you want to keep it, you just need to keep FTX Wales installed (the FTX VFR scenery will disappear under TrueEarth but the airport will remain on top). Thanks for taking the time to answer the question about EGFF. Does this means that once I install GE South v2 I can disable the wales entries from scenery.cfg and just keep EGFF on top of GES v2? Can I assume that FTX EGLC will also work in v2? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 18 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello Jamie, the perfectly practical solution is to leave EGFF as it is, inside its own folder and with its own scenery library entry and either deactivate EU Wales in the scenery library or manually remove it, if disk space is critical. Although from a sales point of view, it is included in the EU Wales product, EGFF is a free standing airport that does not require EU Wales to be installed, if there is a TEGB product in its place. You can assume that Quote FTX EGLC will also work in v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: You can assume that Thanks Nick. Since I do not have TEGB South, I can simply just wait for v2 to be released, or do you advise me to download v1, then update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hello, v2 will delete v1 before installing itself, so I would advise you to wait for v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 23 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello silentsage, the installed sizes I see are, in round numbers: South 46 GB Central 22 GB North 26 GB TEGB libraries 12 GB TEGB Libraries are required by all of the products but will only be installed once. If a customer chooses to have only one part, then that part will have an extra 12GB over and above its own size, but if the same customer then decides to add one or both of the other parts, the size of the installation will rise only by the size of the part itself. I understand that an existing version of TEGB South will be removed by the installer and completely replaced by version 2 which is about 10GB smaller in itself than version 1. Why are these figures so much smaller than the XP11 installation of TE Britain Are we Sure that these numbers are not the download size numbers?? - and might be misleading. Quote on Central ------ for 'space required for installed product' South 127 GB Central 78 GB North 142 GB 347 GB and borne out in my files - which shows 420 GB - which includes a small amount for 4 aircraft and the XP software TE South for P3D stated - it needed at least 57 GB of disc space to be used for installation - it never quoted the final space and I cant pick it out in my file of how much space was finally used - but I know I had to clear off many files to get the product installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F737MAX Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, John Heaton said: Why are these figures so much smaller than the XP11 installation of TE Britain Are we Sure that these numbers are not the download size numbers?? - and might be misleading. As has been explained by Orbx previously, P3D has a much better system for compressing data in .bgl files. Installed on my drive, the current TE GB South for P3D takes up only 57 GB. That's why in P3D, unlike for XP, there is no need of TrueEarth HD vs SD versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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