mfannee Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 https://www.prepar3d.com/news/announcements/2021/12/120925/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc_Z Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 P3d recommends a complete reinstall. For the past several updates, I'v only don client. What does a full reinstall mean for Orbx and other addons? Would I have to reinstall everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc_Z said: Would I have to reinstall everything? Hello Doc, Nick has posted an excellent topic in the past regarding a P3D upgrade install 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc_Z Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I found that afer I posted, thanks. I was also wondering about other add-ons. Does reinstalling remove non-Orbx add-on airports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpol471 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 LM recommends a complete reinstallation of P3D 5.3 but before proceeding you would need to know if the Orbx products are all compatible with this Ver. 5.3 starting with Orbx ObjectFlow. It would be appreciated if Orbx gave an answer regarding the compatibility of its products to wait to install P3D 5.3 pending any updates of its products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 For sometime I have been thinking of dumping V5 as I don't think it as good (stable) as V4 and I now only use P3D for the aircraft I can't have on MSFS and all long flights over 10000 ft This gives me the excuse to clear all of it - and just reinstall the vanilla v5 until I see what the new one offers - LM has its own 2 TB drive so bags of room - none of this separate drives problems only then - will I go and reinstall - step by step - all my Orbx stuff using Central - making the assumption as I did when V5 first came out -that if Orbx installed it - it must be OK ?? However - I will not do the above new Vanilla Install for another 3 weeks - as On the last occasion LM gave us a Hot fix to a stack of probs V5 brought - 3 weeks later 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I'd recommend a complete wipe (uninstall from Add & Remove programs and then remove folders afterwards) and clean install. BAT file for complete wipe, example of what I use (yours will vary per install paths): rd "D:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q rd "C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Add-ons" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Files" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q V5.3 is a step forward and performance is VERY good Cheers, Rob. 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcomm Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Ok, I uninstalled P3D v5.2 HF 2, but didn't uninstall Orbx Central. 1) When fresh installed P3d v5.3, and then oppened Orbx Central, it showed Orbx Global, Libraries and Airports free as already installed. They were installed to the Main Library instead of P3D, but ... 2) I decided to cycle their install, uninstalled the three, then reinstalled. - It looks like everything is working ok, so apparently this 5.3 doesn't bring incompatibilities with Orbx Global, Libraries and Global Airports ( free version ), but I would like to know if his is correct ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise87 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) Won't installing Orbx Global, Trees and Landclass over write the new PBR textures in 5.3? Edited December 2, 2021 by Wise87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael_Chacon Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 That is a good one.....! PBR is supposedly one of the wonders of this update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidler Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I uninstalled v5.2 and did a clean reinstall v5.3...now Objectflow will not install! What am I missing? sidler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Wise87 said: Won't installing Orbx Global, Trees and Landclass over write the new PBR textures in 5.3? Yes, but Orbx textures even without PBR look better than default P3D textures with PBR. I am having an issue with TE Florida and trying to figure out if it's me or something else. Perhaps Orbx can comment on whether or not they'll update Global, Landclass, Trees, HD buildings to PBR ... big project and small user base these days. Global and PMDG are working very well 50-60 FPS external and in VC with very high graphics settings and 44-51 FPS at very large 3rd party airports in PMDG. Be careful with Clouds at "Ultra", I run at "High". I also have OS GPU scheduling enabled, HT OFF as usual, but experiment with these might provide for a better (smoother) experience if one is having stutters: [JobScheduler] AffinityMask=255 P3DCoreAffinityMask=255 MainThreadScheduler=0 RenderThreadScheduler=7 FrameWorkerThreadScheduler=3 I can't find where these are listed in the .CHM but Jannie R. helped bring this to my attention ... they will appear in the Prepar3d.cfg after installation. Cheers, Rob. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tushka Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Rob Ainscough said: Yes, but Orbx textures even without PBR look better than default P3D textures with PBR. I am having an issue with TE Florida and trying to figure out if it's me or something else. Perhaps Orbx can comment on whether or not they'll update Global, Landclass, Trees, HD buildings to PBR ... big project and small user base these days. Global and PMDG are working very well 50-60 FPS external and in VC with very high graphics settings and 44-51 FPS at very large 3rd party airports in PMDG. Be careful with Clouds at "Ultra", I run at "High". I also have OS GPU scheduling enabled, HT OFF as usual, but experiment with these might provide for a better (smoother) experience if one is having stutters: [JobScheduler] AffinityMask=255 P3DCoreAffinityMask=255 MainThreadScheduler=0 RenderThreadScheduler=7 FrameWorkerThreadScheduler=3 I can't find where these are listed in the .CHM but Jannie R. helped bring this to my attention ... they will appear in the Prepar3d.cfg after installation. Cheers, Rob. What is your screen resolution and AA settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, sidler said: now Objectflow will not install! What am I missing? I followed Nick's topic and uninstalled P3Dv5.2 leaving all my Orbx and 3rd party software in the P3Dv5 folder, I then did a full install of P3Dv5.3, ran the necessary with Global, OpenLC products and Libs and Object Flow is all good. My Object Flow is in an external library, so would not have been involved in the uninstalling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Tushka said: What is your screen resolution and AA settings? 3840 x 2160 - 4XMSAA Cheers, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidler Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Thanks for the reply rob It's log in my simulator in the add-ons page. It won't activate in Orbx Control, Im assuming it'S working! Thanks Dick aka sidler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 all went well here, seems to be working fine, PMDG etc all seem to function....I agree with Rob, default still looks no where near as good as Orbx regardless of what has been changed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfannee Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) I installed P3D v5.3 tonight and had quite a few test flights: as far as I can tell, all my Orbx sceneries work properly (openLC, airports, etc). As advized, I completely removed P3D v5.2 (see post of Rob Ainscough hereabove). Since my Orbx sceneries are installed in a library, in theory all I needed to do to get Orbx working in the new version was : open the settings in Orbx Central, then go to the Help section, and click Sync Simulator. I did that, and just to be sure I also uninstalled and re-installed Global Base Pack (I think it was needed in the past). That's it. Edited December 3, 2021 by mfannee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Got the Orbx TE's working now so that's great: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 and ... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfannee Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hi Rob, I'm a bit curious about your lighting settings, because it looks gorgeous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcomm Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Wow Rob ! To me it looks way better than MFS ! Are you using ActiveSkyP3D ? What settings in there and in P3Dv5.3 Graphics / World / Light... ? Any fine-tuning of the volumetric clouds in the CFG s ? Edited December 3, 2021 by jcomm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 great shots there Rob, all looks good here to..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I haven't done any "tweaking" yet, this is out of the box with Orbx TE Netherlands and PMDG 777 and FlyTampa EHAM V2. ActiveSky not installed yet, this is default fair weather theme. I need to install GSX, HiFi ASP, AIG, and ChasePlane. Graphics settings (I moved up to 4XSSAA to see how it impacted FPS: 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Here are the Orbx TE Netherlands settings and FlyTampa Settings: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I need to experiment with these in the Prepar3D.cfg: [JobScheduler] AffinityMask=65535 P3DCoreAffinityMask=65535 MainThreadScheduler=0 RenderThreadScheduler=2 FrameWorkerThreadScheduler=4 And enable OS GPU Scheduling: Cheers, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I haven't used Activesky yet in SIM since the initial release of 5 and the waffle clouds, has all that been sorted now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I haven't noticed the "grid" (aka waffle) clouds yet in this release, but this is just default weather, HiFi ASP is next on my install list. I don't recommend running Clouds at Ultra unless you have lots of FPS to spare. Cheers, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenicoll Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hi Rob, How did you get your TE regions working? I have updated to 5.3 and they no longer show. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, davenicoll said: How did you get your TE regions working? Hi Dave, I started with a clean slate (no prior V5.2 installed), new full install of P3D V5.3, no issues other than the download/uncompressed problems I had with FTX Central that Doug helped me resolve (corrupted files). I recommend a new clean install (wipe all prior P3D folders per my post above). If that's not an option for you, in FTX Central run "verify files" and make sure all are good, then do a Sync. Cheers, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 TE works well here to, full uninstall reinstall for me....all seems fine my end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenicoll Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Hi Rob, Thank you... I will go for a full re install this time, looks like it needs it as per your advice. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Unfortunately yes, clean full install and wipe all prior vestiges of P3D V5.x. AND whatever add-ons you re-install verify they work with P3D V5.3 via vendor. Not an optimal way to "update", but it will ultimately save you time in the long run and you'll have a properly working P3D V5.3. After that, you might want to "tweak" these settings in your Prepar3d.cfg: [JobScheduler] AffinityMask=65535 P3DCoreAffinityMask=65535 MainThreadScheduler=0 RenderThreadScheduler=2 FrameWorkerThreadScheduler=4 They will vary by CPU, GPU, and even OS settings and version, so it's a case of trial and error. Cheers, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenicoll Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Thank you Rob, Looking at current use I will be safe to keep all my Orbx add-ons and reinstate the XML file when asked.. Going to be hard work but looks like worth it in the end.. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZZ Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Just a note to say that v5.3 runs fine here. I mainly use the TEarth areas. v5.3 loads faster. Take care 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangjuice81 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 12/6/2021 at 2:18 PM, CZZ said: Just a note to say that v5.3 runs fine here. I mainly use the TEarth areas. v5.3 loads faster. Take care I noticed that last night as well. It loaded tremendously faster. Before it was minutes (3-5), now it's seconds. I will have some house cleaning to do this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangjuice81 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 12/2/2021 at 2:24 AM, Rob Ainscough said: I'd recommend a complete wipe (uninstall from Add & Remove programs and then remove folders afterwards) and clean install. BAT file for complete wipe, example of what I use (yours will vary per install paths): rd "D:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q rd "C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Add-ons" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Files" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q rd "C:\Users\Rob\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5" /s /q V5.3 is a step forward and performance is VERY good Cheers, Rob. Rob Quick question: Delete all folders, what happens to all your aircraft, scenery etc? I get the others like ProgramData, Local and Roaming. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Ainscough Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 All gone ... that's a complete wipe. Cheers, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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