John Dow

Can't see how you can say you've been short changed if the upcoming NZ update has better mesh. Flight sims evolve and improve constantly and at any time an improvement might emerge that is better than something you paid for in the past. You've had the ability to enjoy what you paid for for since the release of the mesh, and that's what you've paid for, not insurance that something better might come out later.

With a bit of informative commentary. Note my comment re occasional stutters in the YouTube blurb. https://youtu.be/j0I-0qGe8s8 BTW flying a helicopter in 2D after doing all my flying lately in VR is unsettling and difficult when a feeling of depth in the sim is helpful.

Flew VR circuits in the C152 last night. Not a single stutter. Can't comment about complex airliner performance but I know Impulse did a lot of work optimising performance.

One of the best representations of an airport I've ever seen. You'd be hard pressed to find any detail across the entire airport that isn't included. No more airbidges in the middle of the tarmac!

2024 or 2025? Your guess is as good as mine. If it turns up in 2023 it'll be a nice bonus!

Google is your friend. It's amazing how much information is readily available online about all sorts of things we'd like to know.

Yes that's right. The PAPI angle has been set wrongly. The glide slope however appears to be correct. I don't know what CAT this ILS is but unless it's CAT III, the decision height is 100' or 200' minimum, the GS is designed to get you to a point where a manual landing is straightforward with sufficient visibility, from where adjustments in height and angle are often necessary to land on the runway. They are not designed to get you all the way to touchdown. The developer can look at the PAPI lights for a future service pack, in the meantime, flying the glideslope accurately according to your instruments, and not worrying about the PAPI lights for the time being, will bring you to the decision height at 3 degrees from the touchdown point, and from there you can perform a normal stable landing.

No not necessarily. If the glide slope is set correctly, as it appears to be for this runway, then the approach will allow you to land on the numbers by following the glide slope in your instruments. In this case it appears that the PAPI lights are set to the wrong slope. The fact you are seeing the wrong indication from the PAPI lights does not alter your ability to follow the glide slope to the runway art 3 degrees.

I just ran a test and the PAPI lights are red all the way when on GS but the ILS GS appears to be set correctly, see screenshot. It brought me in to the piano keys reasonable accurately, certainly didn't push me into the trees. The problem with the PAPI lights might be because the 05 ILS is 3.5 degrees not 3 degrees so if the developer used the same frequency for both ends, it would explain the discrepancy. If you use the PAPI lights rather than the ILS GS, it'll put you above the 3 degrees GS and you should be high at the threshold, not low, and with no chance of hitting the trees. Anyway the PAPI lights could be looked at for an update, and for me, the 111.30 frequency brings the Bonanza in at around 3 degrees and it's accurate enough to ensure a safe landing at decision height.

Ah yes but we did allow kiwis to come over and see the plane in action and some were even allowed to sit in the cockpit, green with envy, so I think it's a fair representation of the state of NZ military aviation.

There may be commitment to completing the project but an inability to proceed that is expected to be overcome, but no idea when. All I can say is if and when Orbx is in a position to move forward on a project, they will advise, until then assume that there's some impediment to proceeding and leave it at that.

Well that assumes that there is any progress or commitment, which there may well not be, if there are problems with source matrial or a developer's ability to complete the project. I'm not sure releasing a statement such as "there's no news on this project at the moment sorry" would serve any purpose. Best to assume that if and when a project is on track for a release date there will be notification, until then I'd say assume that the developers have no idea on whether it will proceed.

Something I thought of overnight. You said you have MSFS installed on another computer? My guess is that you need to uninstall that one, I doubt that Microsoft allows two copies to be installed concurrently.

It's possible it's a folder permissions thing, or virus software, or administrator access, any number of things. In my experience it can be best to completely uninstall and reinstall, with a guide of all steps you should take from go to whoa, including ensuring virus software is disabled orr configured correctly, that you install with administrator access, your folder paths are optimised etc. If you have been using the Orbx Central backup feature, you'll have minimal downloads to reinstall Orbx software and overall you will probab;y save heaps of time. I would have thought that there would be at least a couple of MSFS and/or Orbx users in the Amberley area who could come to your computer and see what's going on, how you'd find out or contact them I don't know, is it possible to search for users in your area here on the forums I wonder?

I'm on Windows 11. Never had a problem. All my initial problems were caused by me fiddling with files :-)

I have in the past completely downloaded a new install of MSFS, maybe it's time? Can e good for the soul despite the wasted day to get it back. The good news is most settings are retained somehow, control preferences etc.

You're definitely running MSFS as administrator? Just a thought.

Just rename it to something like NotCommunity and then make a new empty Community folder for MSFS to recognise.

This is where it's at on my pc: G:\WpSystem\S-1-5-21-2472195004-4180338828-1079957864-1001\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community Your pathway should be similar just the drive letter might change. Assuming you have the Microsoft Store version installed. You can also find the path by going into your User folder in the C Drive and findding the appdata path as above.

within the sim dowsn't seem to be active just shows the screenshots

You have something in your community folder that's conflicting almost guaranteed. I had the same. I put all my community folder stuff into a hangar and MSFS loaded. Put all Orbx files and other add-ons that I guessed would be safe back in, and MSFS still started. I've got maybe two dozen files left, eventually I'll check them but I don't need them, I'm enjoying the DC3 in VR too much.

I can understand your frustration but without actually being at your computer it's extremely difficult to diagnose your problem. With that in mind, I would do the following: 1. Uninstall all your Orbx add-ons using Orbx Central. That way you can start with a clean sheet. (If you have the Backups function already activated in Orbx Central your products can be reinstalled from the backup location rather than downloading the whole thing.) Then use the sync function, and the scenery_packs.ini file does not list them, confirm that XP11 is working. 2. Check your disk space and choose a drive, in your case it's probably D Drive. 3. Create a folder in D:\ with a simple name like XP11 Library. Don't bury it in a complex folder structure, keep it top level. 4. Choose one Orbx product from your products in Orbx Central and install it, choosing your XP11 Library as the install path. 5. Confirm that you have the scenery folder for that product now installed into your D:\ XP11 Library. Confirm also that there is an entry for the product in scenery_packs.ini file. 6. Start XP11 and the product should appear in the sim. If so, go ahead and install the other products into the XP11 library. If not, it may be a Windows folder permissions issue, or not running the various programs as administrator, or some other setting to which we are not privy.

It's a good idea. In the meantime it's very easy to create a 'hangar' folder next to your community folder and move the scenery or the link to a library location into that hangar. I do it all the time.

Ummmm I think politics doesn't belong in this forum in any shape or form. @Nick Cooper

Orbx doesn't develop the Samscene sceneries. Orbx offers a secure and reliable download and installation service through Orbx Central, but product support for non-Orbx products rests with the developer. It's a pretty common commercial arrangement between the developer and the retailer and Orbx and its partners are no different.