dominique Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Palmtrees gently swaying in the trade winds, an atoll lapping on the side of the runway, Tim & Ken's Pacific scenery ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdguy Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Count me in too. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmorin Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Me Three. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Abernathy Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Swaying palm trees...hmmmm....Palm Flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vora Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I say it's New Caledonia. It simply looks like the perfect size for such a project. Nouméa La Tontouta for the guys who cannot get their fingers off the big iron and a lot of fields for the sensible ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdguy Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Nouméa La Tontouta for the guys who cannot get their fingers off the big iron... Jets are for systems monitors. Give me a mixture and prop controls Noel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thanks chaps, we're just as keen to spill the beans Btw, we have something for everyone in fact the runway I'm working on right now is the longest one I've ever worked on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan King Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Palmtrees gently swaying in the trade winds, an atoll lapping on the side of the runway, Tim & Ken's Pacific scenery ! Maybe I missed something, but what are we referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vora Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Maybe I missed something, but what are we referring to? Tim Harris and Ken Hall are currently working on a successor to their wonderful Jacksons/Kokoda scenery. It's somewhere in the same vicinity but definitely not PNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 I say it's New Caledonia. It simply looks like the perfect size for such a project. Nouméa La Tontouta for the guys who cannot get their fingers off the big iron and a lot of fields for the sensible ones NC would be fantastic. I'm thinking more to a Fiji or a Tonga scenery. BTW getting back to Tim's hint, Nadi airport has a 10700 feet runway ! Time will tell, hey ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripcord Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think they said it would be 'an entire country'. Some good guesses here. Add to that some of the repaints that Tim has done and posted over at OzX and I would guess that it is Samoa or Tonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripcord Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 But going off the length of runway clue, I agree that it may well be Noumea, in New Caledonia. Going to be really cool either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Hall Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Not long to wait fellas, and although I,m biased this place is impossible to take a bad screenshot, been using p3d 2.5 and with the terrain shadows working like a treat now I just can't get enough of it Cheers Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 But going off the length of runway clue, I agree that it may well be Noumea, in New Caledonia. Going to be really cool either way. Though New Caledonia is a French territory, not a country. I'm suspecting The Solomon Islands, as Honiara/Henderson Field is pretty long too. Having said which, many Pacific nations have long runways as only larger planes have the range to reach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Newman Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Nouméa La Tontouta for the guys who cannot get their fingers off the big iron... Jets are for systems monitors. Give me a mixture and prop controls Noel. Or you could fly the Q400 and have the best of both worlds... That beast will bite you if you're not paying attention and actually flying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think they said it would be 'an entire country'. Some good guesses here. Add to that some of the repaints that Tim has done and posted over at OzX and I would guess that it is Samoa or Tonga. I also thought about Samoa besides Tonga and Fiji ! If you look at the configuration of these archipelagoes, Fiji would be terrific with its many airports. BTW, PacSim has already released a Tonga so I guess this one is out. Though New Caledonia is a French territory, not a country. I'm suspecting The Solomon Islands, as Honiara/Henderson Field is pretty long too. Having said which, many Pacific nations have long runways as only larger planes have the range to reach them. Having the Slot as an OrbX scenery is a dream of mine which, I'm afraid, will never come true. Guadalcanal alone has not much airport-wise, besides Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Having the Slot as an OrbX scenery is a dream of mine which, I'm afraid, will never come true. Guadalcanal alone has not much airport-wise, besides Henderson. Ah, if only! Mind you, the rest of the archipelago has a number of smaller fields and bush strips, so it might make a good package for island hoppers. We're all looking further east, but maybe we should look west to Indonesia, which has many, many airfields of all sizes. The country is quite large, though, so it may be too ambitious for one single product. Or there's also East Timor which is pretty small, but has two sizeable airports and a bunch of smaller strips. They're keeping us guessing as the clues are not at all obvious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Ah, if only! Mind you, the rest of the archipelago has a number of smaller fields and bush strips, so it might make a good package for island hoppers. We're all looking further east, but maybe we should look west to Indonesia, which has many, many airfields of all sizes. The country is quite large, though, so it may be too ambitious for one single product. Or there's also East Timor which is pretty small, but has two sizeable airports and a bunch of smaller strips. They're keeping us guessing as the clues are not at all obvious! Yes, the Slot, between say Munda (or Choiseul bay) and Honiara ! About Indonesia, I've done a couple of times the string of volcanoes in Java. That makes an awesome flight ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 You are Bob Morane Dominique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 You are Bob Morane Dominique Thanks ! My next goal is to recreate Flight 714 to Sidney ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick66 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Longest Runway, I`m thinking Guam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 About Indonesia, I've done a couple of times the string of volcanoes in Java. That makes an awesome flight ! Ah, yes, a very impressive view! Even many of the smaller routes are gorgeous, e.g. along the string of volcanoes in northern Halmahera between Gamar Malamo (not in FS unfortunately) and Ternate. Really, Indonesia could justify a full-fat region some day as the geography is so varied, and would suit both tube and tundra fliers. Longest Runway, I`m thinking Guam. That would be good, but as it's a US territory wouldn't be a 'complete country'. Nearby Micronesia doesn't really have any large airports, but Vanuatu's Bauerfield or Fiji's Nadi could be candidates. The Marshalls has Enewetak, though it's not really in use, and Buchholz, though that's a US army base. There are quite a few large airports elsewhere in Pacific coral country, but they're further from PNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Really, Indonesia could justify a full-fat region some day as the geography is so varied, and would suit both tube and tundra fliers. It could indeed, the question is, is there a market for it, I mean beyond us two ! Our fellow simmers seem to mostly fly around their home base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 It could indeed, the question is, is there a market for it, I mean beyond us two ! Our fellow simmers seem to mostly fly around their home base. Yeah, it's a problem - it would certainly be niche. The recent Europe poll showed that the 'fly over my house' customers are very significant, though I still feel that had an 'Alps region' been offered, it would have easily won. For that reason I reckon the 'interesting geography' attraction will still pull in many faraway customers. The nature of Orbx scenery does attract low-and-slow fliers more than photoscenery does, so I do think many customers would be happy to try somewhere exotic if it was interesting. I reckon part of the problem is a technical one, where the limits of 32-bit FSX/P3D and available map data mean that quite a lot of hand-crafting can be needed to produce a good result. Hence the man-hours vs. economic return can be a risk. Perhaps when 64-bit P3D is out and OSM-type data has improved, there will be newer techniques which can automate a lot more detail, meaning the man-hours can be better spent on the creative side. e.g. towns and specific features could be directly generated from map data rather then being hand-placed, much like vector roads are today. Intelligent automated interpretation of map data could do a lot of the initial landclass work, much as Global & OpenLC is trying to do just now. Even textures could be generated/processed (probably at install time to avoid download bloat) so as to fit geographic shapes like small islands, between roads, etc. so there are no more discontinuities or unrealistic boundaries. This would allow the hand-crafting to concentrate on the 'gorgeous' aspects like coral reefs, river estuaries, coloured volcanic lakes, etc. Oh, and the airfields! Just as in the games market dynamic generation of maps is maturing, similar techniques could be useful for map-driven landscapes in FS. Niche products would become less risky economically. Well, I can dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Yeah, it's a problem - it would certainly be niche. The recent Europe poll showed that the 'fly over my house' customers are very significant, though I still feel that had an 'Alps region' been offered, it would have easily won. For that reason I reckon the 'interesting geography' attraction will still pull in many faraway customers. The nature of Orbx scenery does attract low-and-slow fliers more than photoscenery does, so I do think many customers would be happy to try somewhere exotic if it was interesting. I reckon part of the problem is a technical one, where the limits of 32-bit FSX/P3D and available map data mean that quite a lot of hand-crafting can be needed to produce a good result. Hence the man-hours vs. economic return can be a risk. Perhaps when 64-bit P3D is out and OSM-type data has improved, there will be newer techniques which can automate a lot more detail, meaning the man-hours can be better spent on the creative side. e.g. towns and specific features could be directly generated from map data rather then being hand-placed, much like vector roads are today. Intelligent automated interpretation of map data could do a lot of the initial landclass work, much as Global & OpenLC is trying to do just now. Even textures could be generated/processed (probably at install time to avoid download bloat) so as to fit geographic shapes like small islands, between roads, etc. so there are no more discontinuities or unrealistic boundaries. This would allow the hand-crafting to concentrate on the 'gorgeous' aspects like coral reefs, river estuaries, coloured volcanic lakes, etc. Oh, and the airfields! Just as in the games market dynamic generation of maps is maturing, similar techniques could be useful for map-driven landscapes in FS. Niche products would become less risky economically. Well, I can dream... Dreaming is good ! Who would have said that someday you could "print" 3D objects (except a few visionaries) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 country Country, territory, republic, unincorporated territory, independent state, sovereign state, federation, kingdom, whatever the fancy title..they can all considered to be 'countries of the world' with unique cultures, customs, people and language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Dreaming is good ! Who would have said that someday you could "print" 3D objects (except a few visionaries) ? Indeed! Like elsewhere in the tech world, I'm very impressed with the talent of scenery makers these days, and I don't doubt they will continue to push through new technical boundaries to wow us Country, territory, republic, unincorporated territory, independent state, sovereign state, federation, kingdom, whatever the fancy title..they can all considered to be 'countries of the world' with unique cultures, customs, people and language Aha! Fair enough! In that case I'm back to guessing New Caledonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieflyer38 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Or you could fly the Q400 and have the best of both worlds... That beast will bite you if you're not paying attention and actually flying it Yes I have found that out Rob Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Country, territory, republic, unincorporated territory, independent state, sovereign state, federation, kingdom, whatever the fancy title..they can all considered to be 'countries of the world' with unique cultures, customs, people and language In that case I'm back to guessing New Caledonia My vote goes to the American Samoa which is the only entity that I can think of, besides New Caledonia and the Marianas, which is "almost a country but....". The new rallying cry : pago pago ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 BTW beautiful repaints of the Twin Otter in Royal Tongan and Polynesian airlines (read Samoan) liveries by, guess whom, Tim Harris. Thank you Tim, I'm flying right now your PA repaint out of Pago Pago eastbound ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 All good guesses so far, could be any one of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Hall Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm guessing Wapawnee Woo(Joe V the Volcano) we just need a volunteer to jump into the big Woo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 All good guesses so far, could be any one of the above So let's sum up all these "good guesses" in alphabetic order : Fiji, Guam, New Caledonia, the Samoas, the Solomons, Tonga, Vanuatu, Now tell me one that you wouldn't want ? None ? Same for me. I'm still in for the Samoas because of Tim's Twotter livery and his remark about it being a "cultural" country (the Samoas are two political entities but one culture ) and Ken's remark on terrain shadow (Pago Pago bay would be indeed something !). PS and let the guessing game continue ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm guessing Wapawnee Woo(Joe V the Volcano) we just need a volunteer to jump into the big Woo Do we get to marry Meg Ryan at the end of the day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel2688 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Vanuatu Recent holiday there flying around in a PA31-350, great little strips along with a great big runway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumley Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 There may not be much left of Vanuatu tomorrow - TC Pam Category 5 bearing down on it as we speak. New Caledonia could get a touch up as well. Hope everyone stays safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Hall Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Do we get to marry Meg Ryan at the end of the day ? you me everyone would wish for that, but there are 4 very nice steamer trunks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 you me everyone would wish for that, but there are 4 very nice steamer trunks And I bet there are like your scenery guys, all handmade, only the finest materials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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