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20 hours ago, John Heaton said:

Yes ! - exactly the same drawn out Terrain - and then at 100% - the top menu and pause statement

- on a Black screen - no aircraft

I havent tried it since - went to bed - frustrated

Hi John,  I actually timed it, with my cell phone 'stop watch' app, and I as soon as LOADING TERRAIN mask comes on, it goes to 5 percent for about 4.5 minutes (I put eight originally, but only was guessing...) and then takes about another one minute or so,  to go from 5% to 100% and then I get a black screen, for about 5 seconds, as the Shaders are initializing, and then wham bam, at my airport.   I have been flying extensively out of KORS, and all over the PNW...and OMG!  To see Orbx..FINALLY...as it was actually created, the artwork, and other graphic assets...CLEAR...no morphing...and add in  HD Trees, HD Flora, HD Buildings,  all those titles, I have them all, and I can actually state right now...that (aghast!) I now actually PREFER Orbx's SYNTHETIC graphics elements,  to the graphics engine of MSFS.  At this time.  Things could change on the MSFS maturity front, but it's like I got the RTM version of OrbxFlyer Sim v1.0, LOLOLOL.   Everybody is all over different forums talking about how they only load in 3.0 or 3.5 GB's...and stay there...no matter what they throw at P3D v5.2 (non EA on, and only Active Sky running the atmospherics show).  I can live with a 6 minute-to-airport load in...am now just loading up, and walking away from the computer for that time,  to make a coffee, grab a sandwich, give the wife a kiss,  not exactly in that order...lol.  I then come back, and there's KORS looking fantastic now...so crisp and clear, I could cut myself on the top wire of the fence post.... :)

 

You'll get yours sorted out...

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11 hours ago, Jack Sawyer said:

Don't watch politic or TV for 30 years.  I have to limit my activity because I now have severe, extremely severe rheumatoid arthritis.  The pain is so bad I can barely function and will soon be in a wheelchair.

Jack, the following post might be a joint 'life saver' for you. Certainly is for myself and my wife.  I used to have also, severe R.A.  In the mornings, great pain to move about.  A doctor friend of ours,  offered his advice for the following, and both he and his wife take their (to start, 3 capsules per day for 2 months  eight hours apart with food, and then 2 capsules per day, 12 hours apart with food,  for life-time usage maintenance.)  Both my wife and I no longer hobble, or feel tight or painful in our hands, wrists, elbows, knees, ankles, and shoulder blade joints. Full range movement and that took about 4 months in, from the very first day of starting the following.  Be patient if you choose to explore this, for BOTH you and your wife.   Jack, the following is not cheap, but if it gives you back Quality of Life...what exactly is that worth to you. It was worth it to us...we can now move freely, hike, camp, everything....before though, both our advanced R.A. limited our quality of Life.  Here is what we are taking daily, and will be for the rest of our lives. You can get it at Costco. (about the best price, we've seen).

 

CosaminDS (joint health supplement by NUTRAMAX

"Protect your cartilages with the ONLY BRAND proven to reduce joint pain" ----as stated on the plastic bottle.

 

Jack...the above statement is 100 percent TRUE.  I hope you at least check this out.  If so,  and you find relief,  pass it on...we do.  Most of our friends in the Friendship Circle now also take CosaminDS as well, both spouses.

 

Cheers,

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2 minutes ago, Orbx Flyer said:

Jack, the following post might be a joint 'life saver' for you. Certainly is for myself and my wife.  I used to have also, severe R.A.  In the mornings, great pain to move about.  A doctor friend of ours,  offered his advice for the following, and both he and his wife take their (to start, 3 capsules per day for 2 months  eight hours apart with food, and then 2 capsules per day, 12 hours apart with food,  for life-time usage maintenance.)  Both my wife and I no longer hobble, or feel tight or painful in our hands, wrists, elbows, knees, ankles, and shoulder blade joints. Full range movement and that took about 4 months in, from the very first day of starting the following.  Be patient if you choose to explore this, for BOTH you and your wife.   Jack, the following is not cheap, but if it gives you back Quality of Life...what exactly is that worth to you. It was worth it to us...we can now move freely, hike, camp, everything....before though, both our advanced R.A. limited our quality of Life.  Here is what we are taking daily, and will be for the rest of our lives. You can get it at Costco. (about the best price, we've seen).

 

CosaminDS (joint health supplement by NUTRAMAX

"Protect your cartilages with the ONLY BRAND proven to reduce joint pain" ----as stated on the plastic bottle.

 

Jack...the above statement is 100 percent TRUE.  I hope you at least check this out.  If so,  and you find relief,  pass it on...we do.  Most of our friends in the Friendship Circle now also take CosaminDS as well, both spouses.

 

Cheers,

Thanks, my doctor started me on glucosamine condroiton a month ago. I understand it takes a long time.  I’m seeing a specialist but not till the end of July.  

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I went ahead and converted over to 5.2.  Everything looks better except Rex Sxy Force.  I guess they have not updated yet.  There is a much better sense of depth of field and it does seem to run smother with less load on the system.  I have two problems however.  I cannot get Shift Z to work and I have black and water squares in the desert on a flight from Sedona to Santa Fe.  

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7 minutes ago, Jack Sawyer said:

Thanks, my doctor started me on glucosamine condroiton a month ago. I understand it takes a long time.  I’m seeing a specialist but not till the end of July.  

Jack we first tried that...and unfortunately for us, it did not do anything, even within the Placebo Effect.  The mentioned CosaminDS has the only lab and test certified, results that show a markedly favorable  outcome.  We are just one of those that are living 'testimonials'.   Jack...after two to four months (everybody's body is different) you and your wife, will be dancing around the Living Room...   Jack..G.C. didn't work, after 6 months, which led us to CasaminDS after at a dinner party I complained of that very fact, and then our Friendship Circle friend suggested we try CasaminDS and follow the recommended capsule dosage for start, and then life day to day maintenance.  You take this every day, as it will rejuvenate the lining of your joints and cause lubrication to be between the bone support surfaces, once more, for the rest of your days.  It works!  Thank the Lord!

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5 minutes ago, Orbx Flyer said:

Jack we first tried that...and unfortunately for us, it did not do anything, even within the Placebo Effect.  The mentioned CosaminDS has the only lab and test certified, results that show a markedly favorable  outcome.  We are just one of those that are living 'testimonials'.   Jack...after two to four months (everybody's body is different) you and your wife, will be dancing around the Living Room...   Jack..G.C. didn't work, after 6 months, which led us to CasaminDS after at a dinner party I complained of that very fact, and then our Friendship Circle friend suggested we try CasaminDS and follow the recommended capsule dosage for start, and then life day to day maintenance.  You take this every day, as it will rejuvenate the lining of your joints and cause lubrication to be between the bone support surfaces, once more, for the rest of your days.  It works!  Thank the Lord!

I’ll talk to my doctor about this.  Thanks 

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Just now, Jack Sawyer said:

I’ll talk to my doctor about this.  Thanks 

You are MOST welcome...and I would love to read a few months from now...that it was the 'miracle solution' as for us....and you then pass it on to your suffering friends and family!  Good luck, Jack!

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26 minutes ago, Bullfox said:

I went ahead and converted over to 5.2.  Everything looks better except Rex Sxy Force.  I guess they have not updated yet.  There is a much better sense of depth of field and it does seem to run smother with less load on the system.  I have two problems however.  I cannot get Shift Z to work and I have black and water squares in the desert on a flight from Sedona to Santa Fe.  

Here you go... striaght from L.M, drag this attached file to your P3D v5.2 ROOT  GUAGES folder, and allow it to write in, or to OVERWRITE.  Your SHIFT Z will work and...if you would like to change the color from WHITE to such as what I did...to RED,  and it really is much easier to read against a blue sky background, here is how you do it.

 

Look for your P3D v3.2 ROOT  HTML5 folder, and then open up with Notepad ++....the following HTML:

 Information.html

 

Look for the following:

 

#upper
            {
                display: flex;
                position: fixed;
                top: 1%;
                left: 1%;
                width: 98%;
                color: red;
                font-size: 16px;
                font-weight: bold;
                pointer-events: none;
                text-shadow:               
             Regarding the above line starting with COLOR:    color: red; (where you see red, it was originally white. Merely backspace and type red.  Then save with Notepad ++ You see that I have indeed replaced the word white, with 'red'.  When you next run P3D v5.2 and press SHIFT-Z,  not only will it come up, but will be in a very easy to read red colored text!

 

missionpanels.cfg

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I went ahead and converted over to 5.2.  Everything looks better except Rex Sxy Force.  I guess they have not updated yet.  There is a much better sense of depth of field and it does seem to run smother with less load on the system.  I have two problems however.  I cannot get Shift Z to work and I have black and water squares in the desert on a flight from Sedona to Santa Fe. 

 

OK, I got the problem with black squares fixed by running a verification on Global Base.  Orbx central redownloaded it.  Also I want to add that my load times are not greater than before.  About a minute for the initial load of P3Dv5.2 and about two minutes to load a flight.  Wife says time for dinner will work on the Shift Z problem after dinner.

 

You know I bought a bunch of hardware from a bunch of different vendors and assembled it into a computer about 6 weeks ago.  Then I loaded p3dv5,a piece of software based on a 10 year old program and updated by a defense contractor.  Then I loaded a ton of scenery from a bunch of Australians and some other software from a bunch of ex-FSX vendors.  Its amazing the darn thing works at all.   

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2 minutes ago, Bullfox said:

I went ahead and converted over to 5.2.  Everything looks better except Rex Sxy Force.  I guess they have not updated yet.  There is a much better sense of depth of field and it does seem to run smother with less load on the system.  I have two problems however.  I cannot get Shift Z to work and I have black and water squares in the desert on a flight from Sedona to Santa Fe. 

 

OK, I got the problem with black squares fixed by running a verification on Global Base.  Orbx central redownloaded it.  Also I want to add that my load times are not greater than before.  About a minute for the initial load of P3Dv5.2 and about two minutes to load a flight.  Wife says time for dinner will work on the Shift Z problem after dinner.

 

You know I bought a bunch of hardware from a bunch of different vendors and assembled it into a computer about 6 weeks ago.  Then I loaded p3dv5,a piece of software based on a 10 year old program and updated by a defense contractor.  Then I loaded a ton of scenery from a bunch of Australians and some other software from a bunch of ex-FSX vendors.  Its amazing the darn thing works at all.   

Did you see my response to you, including how to change the TEXT to red?

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43 minutes ago, Orbx Flyer said:

Here you go... striaght from L.M, drag this attached file to your P3D v5.2 ROOT  GUAGES folder, and allow it to write in, or to OVERWRITE.  Your SHIFT Z will work and...if you would like to change the color from WHITE to such as what I did...to RED,  and it really is much easier to read against a blue sky background, here is how you do it.

 

Look for your P3D v3.2 ROOT  HTML5 folder, and then open up with Notepad ++....the following HTML:

 Information.html

 

Look for the following:

 

#upper
            {
                display: flex;
                position: fixed;
                top: 1%;
                left: 1%;
                width: 98%;
                color: red;
                font-size: 16px;
                font-weight: bold;
                pointer-events: none;
                text-shadow:               
             Regarding the above line starting with COLOR:    color: red; (where you see red, it was originally white. Merely backspace and type red.  Then save with Notepad ++ You see that I have indeed replaced the word white, with 'red'.  When you next run P3D v5.2 and press SHIFT-Z,  not only will it come up, but will be in a very easy to read red colored text!

 

missionpanels.cfg 21.78 kB · 2 downloads

I went ahead and converted over to 5.2.  Everything looks better except Rex Sxy Force.  I guess they have not updated yet.  There is a much better sense of depth of field and it does seem to run smother with less load on the system.  I have two problems however.  I cannot get Shift Z to work and I have black and water squares in the desert on a flight from Sedona to Santa Fe.  

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4 hours ago, Orbx Flyer said:

Here you go... striaght from L.M, drag this attached file to your P3D v5.2 ROOT  GUAGES folder, and allow it to write in, or to OVERWRITE.  Your SHIFT Z will work and...if you would like to change the color from WHITE to such as what I did...to RED,  and it really is much easier to read against a blue sky background, here is how you do it.

 

Look for your P3D v3.2 ROOT  HTML5 folder, and then open up with Notepad ++....the following HTML:

 Information.html

 

Look for the following:

 

#upper
            {
                display: flex;
                position: fixed;
                top: 1%;
                left: 1%;
                width: 98%;
                color: red;
                font-size: 16px;
                font-weight: bold;
                pointer-events: none;
                text-shadow:               
             Regarding the above line starting with COLOR:    color: red; (where you see red, it was originally white. Merely backspace and type red.  Then save with Notepad ++ You see that I have indeed replaced the word white, with 'red'.  When you next run P3D v5.2 and press SHIFT-Z,  not only will it come up, but will be in a very easy to read red colored text!

 

missionpanels.cfg 21.78 kB · 11 downloads

TYPO...replace v P3D 3.2 for obviously v5.2  and sorry if that confused...all else is accurate.

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3 hours ago, Bullfox said:

OK, I got the color changed to red and the font weight changed to regular which is much easier to red.  All is splendid now.  Thanks Orbx Flyer!

Most welcome...doesn't that RED look really good, actually?   Why they went to white against blue sky and or becoming in front of a white cloud background, sure beat's me!  Glad it worked for you.  P3D v5.2 is now my DEFAULT flight sim choice. Using Xplane and MSFS, but will mostly spend my time in P3D v5.2.  Just a choice. :)

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Jack....here is a link to explore.

 

https://www.cosamin.com/cosamin-ds?gclid=CjwKCAjwtpGGBhBJEiwAyRZX2kzB43yYyb9msfEtUeGWQU7hvgJKIMpD8M9JUf29emtGWrWMQKdl7BoCLtYQAvD_BwE

 

Costco has 230 capsules for the price of less than half that by the other three sellers...you can't beat Costco....always for price for amount.

Costco:

https://www.costco.com/Cosamin-DS-for-Joint-Health%2c-230-Capsules.product.36526.html

 

I put it on this thread 'cause I'm sure that there are many others who might want to check this out as well, and are in Lurking Mode.  So,  back to P3D posts, but I thought this was important as you mentioned your extreme suffering upon this thread, and wanted to keep my replies handy for the follower.

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37 minutes ago, Orbx Flyer said:

Why they went to white against blue sky and or becoming in front of a white cloud background, sure beat's me! :)

 

Hello,

I have been using a cream colour for years, I am pleased to see that LM have now followed my lead.:rollmyeyes:

I notice that they have gone one step further by adding a black outline to the upper text, so that it does

in fact show up well, even over white clouds.

I have always found the red, particularly with the red background, far too intrusive and also have preferred

to fly a simulator, rather than a frame rate counter.

Each to their own of course.

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1 minute ago, Nick Cooper said:

 

Hello,

I have been using a cream colour for years, I am pleased to see that LM have now followed my lead.:rollmyeyes:

I notice that they have gone one step further by adding a black outline to the upper text, so that it does

in fact show up well, even over white clouds.

I have always found the red, particularly with the red background, far too intrusive and also have preferred

to fly a simulator, rather than a frame rate counter.

Each to their own of course.

Exactly, and of course! :)

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In some forums (and they are very correct!), there is advice, that if your FPS are not what you think they should be after having gone from any prior version of P3D.x,  P3D v5.2 uses HTML5 menus, and that is for the moment a major bug, that is being worked on right now...by LM. It is causing animation stuttering and wildly ranging or low FPS obtainment.

 

The solution, and (IT WORKS!) is to go into your ROOT HTML5 Folder, and RENAME the AppMenu to something  like what I did, to AppMenuTurnOff  

 

Do that, and all or most of your stutters will go away, and you should see better, or at least the SAME FPS you had in prior versions,  with your same system hardware and in-sim settings.  I was moving between 17 and 27 FPS, before I renamed that HTML5 document...and now, I am mostly pegged consistency at 32.5 of my LOCKED 33 FPS setting.  So, give that a try...and if you use my suggested temp naming...you'll know what you did, ...and why. When they put out the HF.x,  you would change this document back to AppMenu and then press save.  Then, run the HF when it is released.

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Orbx Flyer, your enthusiasm is addictive :)

 

I am presently on P3Dv4.5, for me a stable platform as long as I don’t push the envelope too much. I tried MSFS and just cannot get into it with the same enthusiasm as many other people. I tried P3Dv5 when it originally came out and gave up in frustration.

 

However, I have just read this complete thread and, because of your comments, I am tempted to try the latest P3Dv5+ again.

 

Thanks,

Roger

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20 minutes ago, Roger Dodger said:

Orbx Flyer, your enthusiasm is addictive :)

 

I am presently on P3Dv4.5, for me a stable platform as long as I don’t push the envelope too much. I tried MSFS and just cannot get into it with the same enthusiasm as many other people. I tried P3Dv5 when it originally came out and gave up in frustration.

 

However, I have just read this complete thread and, because of your comments, I am tempted to try the latest P3Dv5+ again.

 

Thanks,

Roger

I think you will very happy with it...but I do suggest the first thing you do BEFORE you first run it...is to go into your P3D v5.2 ROOT and open up the HTML5 Folder, and change the HTML5 file named AppMenu to AppMenuTurnOff     Then press save so the name change takes.  There is a major bug with the HTML5 that L.M. is hunting down, which affects stutter and poor FPS performance.  They have it down to something conflicting in the AppMenu HTML5 document.  So, by renaming it, causes it not to load in, but default to what was used in P3D v5.1 for now.  That will 'head you off at the pass' about poor FPS and stutter performance right out of the gate.  Then, ..when the HF for that bug comes out, you'd just rename the file back to the original which would be:  AppMenu and then save. THEN you'd run the HF and so on.   So with that suggestion, I think you will certainly enjoy it...and I can be certain, that you'll also say, that this version is the only one since RTM FSX, that has no VRAM exhaustion graphic blurriness, or roads morph to jagged whatever's. Nope..none of that now...as most including myself are reporting that with heavy throttle sim settings, most see a Graphics Card load in of 2.9 to 3.0 GB's and it stays at that load until you shut down.   Whatever they did...it was the Holy Grail for VRAM management...FINALLY!   So, if you have an 8GB card...or even a 6 GB, you are home free with this version.  Have fun!

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8 hours ago, Roger Dodger said:

Orbx Flyer, thanks for the response. What you write sounds interesting and I’ll certainly give it another go. I have 11GB of VRAM on a GTX 1080-Ti so that should help.

 

Thanks again, I appreciate it.

Roger

OMG....with THAT card...and THIS version....you'll KILL IT!   OMG!   LOL...I run a 1070 8GB and the most I have seen is between 2.9 and 3.0, and it doesn't rise above that with EA turned off and Active Sky running the show. I simply like it better.  With E.A. on, it runs as 3.0 GB's or 3.2 GB, but no more, and that is with  V. Clouds at Medium. So even that is as full go with my 8GB GTX 1070.

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3 hours ago, Bullfox said:

I am having less of a problem with stuttering than in 5.1 and maybe a minor reduction in frame rates but even so its much smoother.  

If you try renaming AppMenu  (which is found in the ROOT  HTML5 Folder) to AppMenuTurnOff and save,  you should see whatever your card can give you.  Also, there has been another minor bug discoverd, with SOUND.   Some have reported during a session,  your sound volume, might really go much lower than what you'd expect from your SOUND SLIDE settings. That has happened also to me...but certainly is no show stopper. They will fix all these squashies....in the first HF.

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I renamed the App Menu.  I was running at 55 to 60 fps and renaming the App Menu evened in out at 6o.  However at 60fps the video card ( 5700XT) runs so hot I throttle it back to 40 fps other wise it heats up my computer room.  If I still have it when winter rolls around I can put it back to 60 fps.

 

I am not sure what LM did but 5.2 visually and operationally is head and shoulders above 5.1.

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I am even getting reasonable performance on my old 1070 gpu, locked at 30 and being around that most of the time, also seems for the most part very smooth, which is more important to me than fps....I did a full install and have not encountered issues that some posters did when installing individual sections, I did speak with a developer who was testing the BETA and he was told to update everything during the testing phase everytime they had a new version.......for me it's certainly better than 5.1, I did some flights yesterday with Aerosoft A320 and PMDG 737 and all went well for me...

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1 hour ago, wain71 said:

I am even getting reasonable performance on my old 1070 gpu, locked at 30 and being around that most of the time, also seems for the most part very smooth, which is more important to me than fps....I did a full install and have not encountered issues that some posters did when installing individual sections, I did speak with a developer who was testing the BETA and he was told to update everything during the testing phase everytime they had a new version.......for me it's certainly better than 5.1, I did some flights yesterday with Aerosoft A320 and PMDG 737 and all went well for me...

I'm also running a 8GB 1070, locked at 33 FPS.  I see a lot of 32.5's...very satisfied.

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On 6/12/2021 at 3:03 AM, Orbx Flyer said:

A question for other adopters.  I very much like the performance of the v5.2, but in TERRAIN LOADING,  my sim starting sessions sits at 5 % for almost 8 minutes, and then slowly, very slowly climbs to 100 percent and then the airport.  All the time, the busy light of my computer is ranking on.  Has anybody else experienced a much longer load in time, before dumping to the chosen airport and/or scenery?  That's my only 'critique' so far.

 

I used to have this when I used Vectors. Doesn’t need it anyway. Now disabled.

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Hello Jack,

please go ahead and just install the Client if you wish.

It seems that LM have just made changes that break the long accepted

method of updating.

I would only add that the full reinstallation method is far more likely

to avoid future problems than a piecemeal version but I would draw your

attention to the latest update to this topic:

 

 

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I just deleted the old client and installed the new one.  I elected to do it that way because my new system has been up and running only since early May and there is nothing on it not related to flight sim.  I did have some problems with sometimes incorrect scenery tiles.  I reinstalled Orbk base, vector and land class which went smoothly and solved the problem.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said:

Hello Jack,

please go ahead and just install the Client if you wish.

It seems that LM have just made changes that break the long accepted

method of updating.

I would only add that the full reinstallation method is far more likely

to avoid future problems than a piecemeal version but I would draw your

attention to the latest update to this topic:

Much appreciated Nick!

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On 6/9/2021 at 4:23 PM, Orbx Flyer said:

Have it installed, been flying it...they have done a lot with this one...E.A. has never looked so good...and now no longer a memory hog.  Very nice so far..

 

Did the Content uninstall first

Did the Client uninstall second

 

Installed Client

Installed Content

 

Deleted SHADER Folder

 

Brought up Orbx Central and did a 5.x resync.  Got the green on that.

 

Been having fun ever since.

 

Not loading in v5.2 Scenery, have no need.

how do i find Content and Client?  just installed windows 10 up graded video card installed  PD3 v5.1, i am just learning where some thing are. thanks Dan

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Hello

Sorry but you may have meant the downloads, on your Prepar Download page, click on the plus sign by + Individual Component Downloads (click to expand)

If you had done a full download, you would have them all.

 

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