lawrence aldrich Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Anyone know what happened to my topic on Meigs? Seems to have disappeared..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Seems that one of the staff moved it to quarantine. Probably because there is something happening in the Orbx skunkworks that has not been announced yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradB Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Just like the airport , thank you Mayor Daley > . Cheers Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 The last time I was quarantined was in Fairlawn, New Jersey USA in in 1944 for Measles. Serves me right..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripcord Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Probably because there is something happening in the Orbx skunkworks that has not been announced yet Damn, I love it when that happens... !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Seems that one of the staff moved it to quarantine. Probably because there is something happening in the Orbx skunkworks that has not been announced yet I worked for LOCKMART for 22 years and the skunkworks there never announced anything either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdguy Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I once worked with a guy who had worked at the skunk works. His name was also Kelly Johnson. He said kept getting phoe calls at work that were supposed to be directed to THE Kelly Johnson. BTW...Kelly was Johnson's nickname. His real first name was Clarence. He picked up the nickname Kelly in high school n Michigan. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 A friend once worked with a woman called Marianne Morrison. Apparently she never quite understood why her colleagues referred to her as 'the Duke'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hamilton Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 How did we get from Meigs Field to John Wayne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 How did we get from Meigs Field to John Wayne? I suppose that would be KCGX to KSNA, with stopovers at Groom Lake and Burbank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alank Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 How did we get from Meigs Field to John Wayne? blame JV - I think the word "skunkworks" triggered it ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwh86 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 You have lost me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M31 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting ... Meigs Field has always been associated with MS Flight sim for me over the years, Aerosoft did an add on of this a while back, definitly interested in an ORBX one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwh86 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Me too. Maybe they should quarantine this thread, too. Then redo Meigs translated into modern ORBX, announce it, and wait for everybody to buy it. Which many will...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M31 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Maybe they should quarantine this thread, too. Then redo Meigs translated into modern ORBX, announce it, and wait for everybody to buy it. Which many will...... I suppose? Struggling to see your point really At the end of the day, ORBX will release this scenery or not. Meigs Field was awesome though, learnt how to virtually take off and land there since at least FS4, then gradually go explore until later revisions of MS FS started including the whole world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I will never forget being 12 years old back in 1984 and saving all my allowance to buy Sublogic Flight Simulator 2 for the Apple IIe, and the countless hours I spent flying around Meigs and trying to figure out how to land there. This would make a fantastic ORBX airport to see the FTX quality in a legacy Flight Sim airfield. It was a first for Static and Dynamic Aircraft so it would be amazing to see it with PeopleFlow. It would bring out that 12 year old in me once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remko Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Oh yeah - an ORBX Meigs field freeware that looks EXACTLY like it looked on my Commodore 64 in the 80s!!!! (plus an option in the control panel to switch it off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Oh yeah - an ORBX Meigs field freeware that looks EXACTLY like it looked on my Commodore 64 in the 80s!!!! (plus an option in the control panel to switch it off) I bet a few of us would like a "modern interpretation" of what it could look like nowadays. Perhaps some industrial-strength wind chimes, a new "Kicking Cow Chargrill" to get that $100 burger, maybe a new "R.M. Daly" toilet block... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I suppose? Struggling to see your point really At the end of the day, ORBX will release this scenery or not. Meigs Field was awesome though, learnt how to virtually take off and land there since at least FS4, then gradually go explore until later revisions of MS FS started including the whole world! Don't really have one. I was interested in Meigs because I like it, and wondered how many ancient simmers like me were still breathing without oxygen at sea level. In the real world Meigs and its demise really don't matter much, but this is a fltsim forum and given there are really no current iterations that really work well floating around I thought it would be interesting to see how may agreed that an "iconic" historical airport would be popular. Besides, I think it would sell well and I'm sure selling product is a topic ORBX management is always interested in. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdguy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I have a freeware copy that I like reasonably well after tweaking it with AFX. I have startup flights for both my wheeled and float versions of the Kodiak based at Meigs. Yesterday I purchased and installed Aerosoft's Chicago hoping to get a better Meigs. That was a mistake. It's rendition of Meigs is pretty sorry. I'm back to the freeware one I tweaked. For a veteran flight simmer like myself Meigs is a must have. It was MSFS in it's toddler stage along with New York and San Francisco. We watched it grow up along with MSFS. Meigs is the oldtimer's flightsim grandchild. I will always have one with me no matter how retarded it might be; always hoping it will improve. Orbx has the opportunity to make that happen for us. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttocs Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 In the real world Meigs and its demise really don't matter much... Oh, I don't know about that. These guys still try to keep the torch burning IRL: http://friendsofmeigs.org/ Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I have a freeware copy that I like reasonably well after tweaking it with AFX. I have startup flights for both my wheeled and float versions of the Kodiak based at Meigs. Yesterday I purchased and installed Aerosoft's Chicago hoping to get a better Meigs. That was a mistake. It's rendition of Meigs is pretty sorry. I'm back to the freeware one I tweaked. For a veteran flight simmer like myself Meigs is a must have. It was MSFS in it's toddler stage along with New York and San Francisco. We watched it grow up along with MSFS. Meigs is the oldtimer's flightsim grandchild. I will always have one with me no matter how retarded it might be; always hoping it will improve. Orbx has the opportunity to make that happen for us. Noel Every one of the freeware ones I've found either won't install right, or if they do, they wind up messing with my ai traffic. I guess it could be a loading issue with my priority settings. Don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M31 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I have a freeware copy that I like reasonably well after tweaking it with AFX. I have startup flights for both my wheeled and float versions of the Kodiak based at Meigs. Yesterday I purchased and installed Aerosoft's Chicago hoping to get a better Meigs. That was a mistake. It's rendition of Meigs is pretty sorry. I'm back to the freeware one I tweaked. For a veteran flight simmer like myself Meigs is a must have. It was MSFS in it's toddler stage along with New York and San Francisco. We watched it grow up along with MSFS. Meigs is the oldtimer's flightsim grandchild. I will always have one with me no matter how retarded it might be; always hoping it will improve. Orbx has the opportunity to make that happen for us. Noel I dont know about Aerosofts Chicago scenery, but that company definitely released a separate Meigs Feild add on with the spirit of the old sims, they included an option too of a new Chicago spiral tower that was condemned before it started for the same reason Meigs was crushed... I know I should have read the freaking manual first but when I asked for help on their typical Germanic tuton precise forums I was made out to be a pirate! Then there was the whole Snave affair that Matthias let him off with scot free for far too long, he was physically driving and insulting customers away, and if anyone complained Mattieas would say in broken English text as he does ... hey, Snave is a prick but he knows about a product we have. I'm pretty sure even the boss's at Aerosoft have banned Snave now, but this is one simmer who will consider deep and hard buying anything from Aerosoft again for many reasons.. ... Gone clean off Aerosoft these days, dont even feel like firing up any of their products out of protest EDIT: and shaking myself up here ... if ORBX were to do Meigs Field ... they have my money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttocs Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I dont know about Aerosofts Chicago scenery, but that company definitely released a separate Meigs Feild add on with the spirit of the old sims, they included an option too of a new Chicago spiral tower that was condemned before it started for the same reason Meigs was crushed... Yep, that's Aerosoft's US Cities - Chicago offering, and the Meigs implementation is really not much better than mid-level free-ware quality. And BTW, Meigs being ripped up and the Chicago Spire failing are two completely different things. Meigs was ripped up by Hizzoner Richard M. Daley as part of a personal vendetta he had with the airport. It's a long and sordid tale. The Spire failing had nothing to do with City government and everything to do with developers' who's eyes and aspirations were far greater than their pocketbooks. A lot of money was lost and a lot of lawyers got rich. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebgee Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I will never forget being 12 years old back in 1984 and saving all my allowance to buy Sublogic Flight Simulator 2 for the Apple IIe, and the countless hours I spent flying around Meigs and trying to figure out how to land there. This would make a fantastic ORBX airport to see the FTX quality in a legacy Flight Sim airfield. It was a first for Static and Dynamic Aircraft so it would be amazing to see it with PeopleFlow. It would bring out that 12 year old in me once again This sounds very familiar... except I was 16 and had a II+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vora Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Meigs would actually be a fantastic airport to introduce innocent souls to the world of OrbX addiction. I scared the crap out of Meigs tower during my C64 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 This sounds very familiar... except I was 16 and had a II+. I actually landed there in a t-6G in 1957. A real one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Dragged this out of the archives >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uomaMCpo5F0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev D Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Good grief, I think I was married to her once!!!!! Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hamilton Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think I'd rather fly with nervous Heidi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermank Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 As a Chicagoan, I do want to point out that the park built where Meigs existed is a very popular concert venue....and probably draws more people than Meigs ever could. But, the way Meigs was ripped out overnight remains a great loss for aviation, as well as business and GA flyers. back in the days when I was an entertainment reporter for a Chicago radio station (where I am still employed), I and other journalists were flown up to the Lake Geneva WI Playboy Club for their latest shows, and flown back, in and out of Meigs. It was absolutely astounding to descend on approach with buildings along the lakefront, such as Hancock Center so seemingly close you would think you could reach out and touch them. Sherm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence aldrich Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 As a Chicagoan, I do want to point out that the park built where Meigs existed is a very popular concert venue....and probably draws more people than Meigs ever could. But, the way Meigs was ripped out overnight remains a great loss for aviation, as well as business and GA flyers. back in the days when I was an entertainment reporter for a Chicago radio station (where I am still employed), I and other journalists were flown up to the Lake Geneva WI Playboy Club for their latest shows, and flown back, in and out of Meigs. It was absolutely astounding to descend on approach with buildings along the lakefront, such as Hancock Center so seemingly close you would think you could reach out and touch them. Sherm It was even more astounding when you couldn't see them . Like 1/4 mile visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vora Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The antennas of the Hancock Center were always soooo tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdguy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Chicago has always been one of my favorite cities. When I was going Air Force weather forecasters school at Chanute AFB near Champaign I used to week-end a lot in Chicago. Ride up in the morning on the City of New Orleans and back on the same train in the evening. My wife and I try to make it there by Amtrak every couple of years. The museums where you can go aboard a German U-Boat or an early Zephyr or spend an afternoon at Navy Pier. It's a wonderful city and has a vibrant feel about it like no other city I have been to. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Pettichord Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I had open-heart surgery and am supposed to keep my heart-rate below a certain level. JV will soon get a note from my cardiologist explaining how to keep from causing us old guys such agitation as his 'skunkworks" comment did. Meigs lives! Hoo boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttocs Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 As a Chicagoan, I do want to point out that the park built where Meigs existed is a very popular concert venue....and probably draws more people than Meigs ever could. But, the way Meigs was ripped out overnight remains a great loss for aviation, as well as business and GA flyers. Popular, perhaps, but well planned and practical as currently configured, or in harmony with the original plans to turn the "island" into a nature park? Perhaps not so much. The Museum Campus area already suffers from a dearth of good public transportation (try catching a bus at or near closing time for the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium and Shedd Aquarium), and access in and out of Northerly Island all funnels through the neck of land leading out to the Planetarium, a situation made worse given the recent large expansion of the concert venue. Full disclosure - I was born and raised in Chicago and will always consider myself a Chicagoan, but I have not lived there in decades - I'm only a regular visitor and avid follower of all things Chicago these days. And I also freely admit to my biases as a GA pilot, but I'm still convinced that the city threw away a valuable asset when Mayor Daley (v2.0) arbitrarily, and illegally, bulldozed the place quite literally in the dark of night. And yes, I'd be near the front of the line if Orbx' "skunkworks" released a good KCGX! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdguy Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Agitate me all you want JV. Haven't spent a night in a hospital since 1933 when I was born in a hospital. Never had a broken bone or surgery for anything. Been stitched up in the emergency room a couple times but never stayed long enough to even have lunch. I have this nagging thought that when it happens to me it's gonna be big! Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermank Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Dragged this out of the archives Something tells me you would not be able to do this in real life... Sherm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabble Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Something tells me you would not be able to do this in real life... Sherm Well, not more than once anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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