Tonyla1 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Hi Guys I have just downloaded and installed the patch, now the sim wont start. It just hangs there for a minute trying to open, then crashes. I was happily flying YBTH last night with no problems. All this has happened immediately after downloading the patch. I reinstalled the new library again just to be sure, I tried swapping between regions and global in FTX central but nothing will let the sim start. There are no error messages, just the crash. My system did do some windows updates earlier in the night, but this is a regular occurrence and has never caused problems before Any suggestions what could be wrong? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugdani Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 The same for me !!! I've had a flight just before running the patch, but now, FSX refuse to start, excactly as for you ;-(((((((( Bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaller Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 The same happens here. FSX crashes. At the few times (not all of them) where it gives a crash report it show the DLL where it crashes is: wbemprox.dll While appcrashview.exe at this reports, show the last module to be loaded is: C:\Windows\system32\dinput.DLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaller Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I found the solution: If you look into your log.log file (inside the FSX directory) you will find something like: "direct3d create effect from file failed use "<FSX-directory>" for your shader files" The Australia patch again (it also happened with the 002 patch) messes up and/or corrupts files necessary for people running FSX with FXAA (post-process injector tool) for much better color range-depth. With the 002 patch, it deleted the two necessary shader.* files. Now with the 003, it does something else that hinders the function of FXAA. Just copy from your ZIP backup (I assume you do have a complete ZIP backup of your FXAA needed files) all the FXAA needed files into the FSX directory, and it will work again. PS: To Orbx: Why do you take actions in the users' FSX installation, without consent from the users? Messing with the FXAA files is none of your business. We have hundreds of euros, dollars, (whatever) invested in our FSX setup, and re-installing everyhing from scratch is NOT an option as it will take DAYS or a full WEEK. Do you not have any respect for our precious time? PS2: And do not delete this post. The previous post, a few months ago, when I had mentioned what patch 002 did, had been deleted for no reason, and with no warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep49 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 By me is everything OK, the only thing that's has been changed are the loading times for Australia. It takes 2 minutes more for starting a flight. Have you set FTX central to Oceania before you installed the patch? Here is a shot from Canberra Airport in the dusk with the new lights. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugdani Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I've just found this in my log: " full path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\ " I am not a expert! What can I do? I no back up and now, I have no more FSX [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Paul Mes Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Bug, Si j'ai bien compris, il suffit de ré-installer FXAA. In English, unless I'm mistaken, re-installing FXAA solves the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaller Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Bug, Si j'ai bien compris, il suffit de ré-installer FXAA. In English, unless I'm mistaken, re-installing FXAA solves the issue. Yes it does. Reinstall FXAA, and you should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugdani Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Merci, mais c'est quoi FXAA ? Thanks, but what is FXAA ? Bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Paul Mes Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 C'est un un soft genre Enbseries (bloom) qui modifie les couleurs de FSX. T'es sûr que tu l'utilise pas pour tes screens ? It's a utility somehow likewise to Enbseries (bloom) which changes the colours of FSX. Are you sure you are not using it for your screenshots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyranger Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Salut Bug! Pour ma part j'ai réinstallé sweetfx, et ça a corrigé le problème... (I had just reinstalled SweetFx, and the problem was resolved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTK1972 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Gesundheit ! Same here. Reinstalling Sweetfx helped me with that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 SweetFX?? so this is nothing to do with the Orbx installer just as I thought.. most of us appear to have no problems after the install.. Perhaps an apology to Orbx is in order??. Teecee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaller Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 SweetFX?? so this is nothing to do with the Orbx installer just as I thought.. most of us appear to have no problems after the install.. Perhaps an apology to Orbx is in order??. Teecee. It has everything to do with the OrbX installer. Did you not read the above posts? The OrbX installer deletes and/or changes-corrupts other files, that have NOTHING to do with the OrbX products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugdani Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 It's done and OK now with a new SweetFX! Thanks for help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTK1972 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 SweetFX?? so this is nothing to do with the Orbx installer just as I thought.. most of us appear to have no problems after the install.. Perhaps an apology to Orbx is in order??. Teecee. well....great you have no problems. others do. Maybe an apology to them would be fair ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 It has everything to do with the OrbX installer. Did you not read the above posts? The OrbX installer deletes and/or changes-corrupts other files, that have NOTHING to do with the OrbX products. Mmmm... your kind of post won't be tolerated here. Trust me on this one I don't see your point of being so arrogant anyway. Some constructive suggestion and help would benefit many that have this problem. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugdani Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 .....maybe....... ...but the most important is that my sim work again.... Thanks to the community and specialy to Globaller for his advises... Bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyla1 Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 Thanks for the advice guys. I was dreading having to do a complete FSX reinstall Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I had too same - FSX dosent start - but if You use Sweet FX - turn off and turn on again. It works and now no any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfko Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I found the solution: If you look into your log.log file (inside the FSX directory) you will find something like: "direct3d create effect from file failed use "<FSX-directory>" for your shader files" The Australia patch again (it also happened with the 002 patch) messes up and/or corrupts files necessary for people running FSX with FXAA (post-process injector tool) for much better color range-depth. With the 002 patch, it deleted the two necessary shader.* files. Now with the 003, it does something else that hinders the function of FXAA. Just copy from your ZIP backup (I assume you do have a complete ZIP backup of your FXAA needed files) all the FXAA needed files into the FSX directory, and it will work again. Hi Globaller, Thanks a lot! Now I'm a happy camper again! I'm using FXAA and had the same problem. Your findings saved me a lot of time for investigating and searching. Cheers, Wolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 It has everything to do with the OrbX installer. Did you not read the above posts? The OrbX installer deletes and/or changes-corrupts other files, that have NOTHING to do with the OrbX products. Could you please enlighten to me exactly which files the installer deletes or changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtwillia Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I just installed the FTXAUSP4.003.PATCH and same problem. FSX will not start. What do I need to do to fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Here is a list of the files installed by the SP4.003 installer (which would the same as the 4.002 installer, but with the newer 3D lights) SP4_Fileset.txt Also, a report from the installer program showing which files are installed. AUSP4003_Report.zip So, if the offending file can be found, we would like to investigate it further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variometer Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I had the same problem. In my case the reason was a file which somehow seems to be deleted by the installer, named dxgi.fx After adding this file again to my fsx root directory everything worked fine again. Cheers, Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Had the same issue here. FSX wouldn't load, but a re-install of the SweetFX files solved the problem... Cheers Mallard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I had the same problem. In my case the reason was a file which somehow seems to be deleted by the installer, named dxgi.fx After adding this file again to my fsx root directory everything worked fine again. Cheers, Andreas Thanks Andreas, that's narrowed it down for me perfectly. I have inspected the batch file process which runs post-install and I have found what the cause is. The 4.002 patch (which was released back in May 2011) had some clean up processes which removed files from previous Au region installs. One of these was to delete effects files that were installed into the root folder in error. Unfortunately this "dxgi.fx" file has been caught up in the process. Considering that fx files usually reside outside the root folder we did not foresee this happening. We apologise for the inconvenience and I am re-uploading new builds with that script corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks for the new build, Ed! Cheers Mallard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael63 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks Andreas, that's narrowed it down for me perfectly. I have inspected the batch file process which runs post-install and I have found what the cause is. The 4.002 patch (which was released back in May 2011) had some clean up processes which removed files from previous Au region installs. One of these was to delete effects files that were installed into the root folder in error. Unfortunately this "dxgi.fx" file has been caught up in the process. Considering that fx files usually reside outside the root folder we did not foresee this happening. We apologise for the inconvenience and I am re-uploading new builds with that script corrected. Thank you Ed. Do you give a HU when the new build is available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks Andreas, that's narrowed it down for me perfectly. I have inspected the batch file process which runs post-install and I have found what the cause is. The 4.002 patch (which was released back in May 2011) had some clean up processes which removed files from previous Au region installs. One of these was to delete effects files that were installed into the root folder in error. Unfortunately this "dxgi.fx" file has been caught up in the process. Considering that fx files usually reside outside the root folder we did not foresee this happening. We apologise for the inconvenience and I am re-uploading new builds with that script corrected. Thank You very much Ed! As i also had the same issue i am now most happy as well to read that there is a new build on the horizon! Cheers, Christoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfko Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 We apologise for the inconvenience and I am re-uploading new builds with that script corrected. That's great to hear, Ed! Thank you very much for all your efforts and your continuous perfect support! Cheers, Wolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variometer Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks Andreas, that's narrowed it down for me perfectly. You are welcome. Cheers, Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Attwood Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 My FSX didn't refuse to start but instead has become a slide show. Is this the same problem or something else? I run DX10 using the DX10 Fixer and was, prior to the SP4.003 update, a sweetheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaller Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I have inspected the batch file process which runs post-install and I have found what the cause is. The 4.002 patch (which was released back in May 2011) had some clean up processes which removed files from previous Au region installs. One of these was to delete effects files that were installed into the root folder in error. Unfortunately this "dxgi.fx" file has been caught up in the process. Considering that fx files usually reside outside the root folder we did not foresee this happening. We apologise for the inconvenience and I am re-uploading new builds with that script corrected. Yes, as I said. The 4.002 had obviously a "del <FSX>\*.fx" command somewhere in its scripts. (where <FSX> is the FSX directory) It's good that, finally, this very serious bug was acknowledged, found, reproduced and corrected. SweetFX?? so this is nothing to do with the Orbx installer just as I thought.. most of us appear to have no problems after the install.. Perhaps an apology to Orbx is in order??. Teecee. So, perhaps an apology to me, is in order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 globaller, please moderate your accusatory tone. As Ed noted the installer intended to clean up old Orbx effect files. There was no malicious intent and it will be fixed soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guenther Baron Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Have the same problem - can´t use FSX anymore ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The patch has been updated with a new post clean-up process that will not delete the dxgi.fx file. Links now have the new file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaller Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The patch has been updated with a new post clean-up process that will not delete the dxgi.fx file. Links now have the new file. It's not just the dxgi.fx file. Other versions or variants of FXAA or SweetFX, use some other shader file in the <FSX> directory. For example: shader.fx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 The updated cleanup process won't delete any .fx files from the root folder now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guenther Baron Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Have the same problem - can´t use FSX anymore ! Phew ...... for me it is fixed. It was the dxgi.dll found in the FSX directory which caused the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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