bernd1151 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 JV mentioned a few weeks back that he has access to new first class imagery for Germany. Of course, we all know the deficiencies photoscenery offers, such as only one season and blurry textures, when one flies below 1,000 feet. But we also know of the advantages it offers like flying above real world scenery. So, whatever you read here, is just my own opinion, no offense. I for one usually fly higher than 2,000 feet in a GA plane in order to see something below me and if I have the urge to fly in winter, I can just de-activate the photoscenery and have the ORBX world again. Whether such a photoscenery project for Germany will ever be realized or not, I thought to show a few pictures, how such a project could look like in our ORBX world. I have used medium quality photoscenery for Germany (there isn’t much else available at the moment) and placed it together with some autogen on top of GEN/GES. The first picture in this sequence shows GEN/GES alone, the second one shows GEN/GES together with photoscenery. In the scenery library, I have placed the photoscenery above the ORBX entries and as you can see, all ORBX POIs show through. There is no other add-on activated. Most of the shots (except the last three in the mountains and above Lake Constance) were taken at around 2,000 feet above sea level. For this little demo I flew along the Rhine river. Our journey starts near Cologne and ends at the Zugspitze mountain in the Alps in Southern Germany 1. Cologne Landmarks like the Cologne cathedral are still clearly visible, but here the city looks a bit to blue-ish for me (that is why I said before: medium quality photoscenery) 2. Near Rüdesheim/Rhine 3. Frankfurt I like the way the rail tracks look 4. Ludwigshafen with part of BASF in the background 5. Ludwigshafen from another angle 6. Western side of Lake Constance with the Isle of Mainau 7. Neuschwanstein Castle 8. Zugspitze in the Alps The Zugspitze is photoreal also in GES, so there is no difference, except for the mountain area in the background I hope the ORBX team doesn’t mind me doing this little comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 What an interesting comparison post Bernd. A big difference in the railways and also the Island of Mainau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Indeed a very interesting comparison. Though I have to state that in my view none of the options is a clear winner (yet...), both have strenghts and weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernd1151 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, VH-KDK said: What an interesting comparison post Bernd. A big difference in the railways and also the Island of Mainau. Thanks, Martyn, the difference is indeed obvious. But one can also see, what a great job the ORBX team did that developed both GEN and GES, in the accurate placement of all the POIs! 26 minutes ago, Stillwater said: Indeed a very interesting comparison. Though I have to state that in my view none of the options is a clear winner (yet...), both have strenghts and weaknesses. Thanks Gerold, and I fully agree with you. Let's see, how the ORBX Netherland will look like. I'm quite confident that it will look superb, given the ORBX ressources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankees Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 For me there is a clear winner, and that is the photoscenery. I'm a geologist, making part of his living interpreting tbe landscape, and it just looks so much better to me. Ok, so you have to fly a bit higher.. I am finding myself using more and more photoscenery (so less screenies here on the forum), especially now I bought a new computer, and so can't wait for the release of photoreal by orbx of the Netherlands, bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Thanks for this Bernd! I for one like Orbx's stuff better. I'm going to pass on the photoreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradB Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jack Sawyer said: Thanks for this Bernd! I for one like Orbx's stuff better. I'm going to pass on the photoreal. +1 - John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 4 hours ago, VH-KDK said: What an interesting comparison post Bernd. A big difference in the railways and also the Island of Mainau. I enjoy the Orbx scenery. But, do agree with Martyn regarding the railways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, paulb said: I enjoy the Orbx scenery. But, do agree with Martyn regarding the railways. Thanks Paul. The biggest disadvantage for me would be no low flying which is something many of us enjoy. I do hope that in the future that some static rolling stock can be added to the marshalling yards just for that next step up in realism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, VH-KDK said: Thanks Paul. The biggest disadvantage for me would be no low flying which is something many of us enjoy. I do hope that in the future that some static rolling stock can be added to the marshalling yards just for that next step up in realism. That would be so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambar Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Interesting stuff Bernd, but, I think i'll stick to Orbx scenery as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 7 hours ago, VH-KDK said: Thanks Paul. The biggest disadvantage for me would be no low flying which is something many of us enjoy. I do hope that in the future that some static rolling stock can be added to the marshalling yards just for that next step up in realism. I too spend most of my time flying at low levels to enjoy the detail in the scenery. IMHO the representations (or lack of) of railways and railway stations is a weak feature of P3D. I notice this most when flying over cities as shown in the photos above. When taking screenshots I tend to avoid such areas because of the lower quality. Sometimes orbx will enhance a station when releasing an airport. Southampton is a good example of this. Then it looks so much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1252 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Nicely done, Bernd, and thanks for doing this. I'm with the undecided crowd, myself. I've seen almost no photoscenery I actually like yet, but I'm willing to accept that may be down to the quality of the scenery I've seen. I do have some photoscenery for a couple of middle east areas, and that's not too bad, and I have recently tried out a couple of France VFR packages, but on the whole, I definitely prefer the Orbx world. Neither approach is without its problems, but when you look at some of the screenshots here you realise just how remarkable the environment is currently. Combining the two approaches with the sort of finesse Orbx brings may well turn out to be the ultimate solution - PR Netherlands will be very interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
European Mountain Man Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Fantastic set of shots Bernd regards stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernd1151 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks a lot, gents, for your interesting comments. 7 hours ago, andy1252 said: Neither approach is without its problems, but when you look at some of the screenshots here you realise just how remarkable the environment is currently. Combining the two approaches with the sort of finesse Orbx brings may well turn out to be the ultimate solution - PR Netherlands will be very interesting to see My sentiments exactly, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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