Bermuda425 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hey all! Can you determine the two aircraft types shown on this photo? Greetings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak73 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hey there Bermuda, the one taking off looks like a Cessna 172, but I have no idea what the one taxiing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatmalik simulation Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 And here too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 That would be a Cirrus SR-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Matthew Kane said: That would be a Cirrus SR-20 You can't be Cirrus surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 56 minutes ago, Hobnobs said: You can't be Cirrus surely? I am Cirrus and stop calling me Surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 ...and that SR 20 is owned by Purdue University There is another picture of it at https://de.flightaware.com/photos/view/2742794-e629d5f6e7458b1dee89d93d45de942dab487406/aircrafttype/SR20 Cheers Mallard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 @Kodiak73 & @Greatmalik simulation & @RJ Hey there! You're almost right with the Cessna, but here's a close-up: @Matthew Kane Yeahhh! Golden right! @Hobnobs @Mallard Absolutely! Thanks for the picture from the hangar. Saw it just this morning again parked on the ramp. Since it has gear fairing, you can determine that it is the IFR equipped version which isn't flown as much as the ones without fairings that are visual. Here's a comparison shot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Interesting task here...: https://de.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N6450B with no current location in https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n6450b . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 @Stillwater Bing bing bing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Oh yeah that would be Willard Airport. Brings back memories of Flight Sim 2 when that was the end of the scenery. How small the FS world used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irbfdc Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Tail numbers can be checked on "Landings." Dave C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Matthew Kane said: Oh yeah that would be Willard Airport What is the connection? Please help me 3 hours ago, irbfdc said: Tail numbers can be checked on "Landings." Dave C. Hey Dave, what do you mean particularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Bermuda425 said: What is the connection? Please help me Bruce Artwick who is the Grandfather of Microsoft Flight Simulator was a former student at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. That University also owns and operates Willard Airport and the Flight School there. The company Sublogic was started at this school by Bruce. When Bruce programmed Flight Simulator 2 the scenery began in Chicago and ended at Willard Airport so you could fly cross country from Chicago to Willard. Microsoft bought Flight Simulator from Sublogic and Bruce joined Microsoft to continue with what became MS Flight Simulator line and what we now have today with FSX, P3D and where ever DTG's takes it. You could say that University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Willard Airport is the birthplace of our Hobby. Some may say Meigs but I would say Willard because that was Bruce's school and that was where Sublogic was first formed and the place where Flight Simulator was first programmed. So if we were all to take a pilgrimage this would be the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 @Matthew Kane Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool - wow... goose bumps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 hours ago, Matthew Kane said: Bruce Artwick who is the Grandfather of Microsoft Flight Simulator was a former student at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. That University also owns and operates Willard Airport and the Flight School there. The company Sublogic was started at this school by Bruce. When Bruce programmed Flight Simulator 2 the scenery began in Chicago and ended at Willard Airport so you could fly cross country from Chicago to Willard. Microsoft bought Flight Simulator from Sublogic and Bruce joined Microsoft to continue with what became MS Flight Simulator line and what we now have today with FSX, P3D and where ever DTG's takes it. You could say that University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Willard Airport is the birthplace of our Hobby. Some may say Meigs but I would say Willard because that was Bruce's school and that was where Sublogic was first formed and the place where Flight Simulator was first programmed. So if we were all to take a pilgrimage this would be the place. Now that deserves some rep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 https://fr.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N6450B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Pettichord Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I know we're off topic, but the additional info is very interesting. I'd never heard the pre-Microsoft history of flight sim. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 If you guys would like to experience the first MS Flight Simulator click on this link: https://archive.org/details/msdos_Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_v3.0_1988 That version is basically the same as Sublogic Flight Simulator 2, when Microsoft bought it from Sublogic they reprogrammed it for DOS and repackaged it with Microsoft on the box. You can take off from Meigs and fly south and make your way to Willard Airport. This was most likely a drive that Bruce Artwick made many times to go to school there and likely why he choose it for his first scenery area. You will also notice a lot of the keyboard commands are still the same today. It wasn't until Flight Simulator 4 that things really started to come of age with aircraft and scenery design as well as digital sound. Flight Sim 5 was the first with photo display, from their the milestones were incremental but 4 and 5 really raised the bar. And yes Bruce Artwick was behind most of that innovation until he left. Bruce's other companies were Mallard and BAO (Bruce Artwick Organization) as well as Sublogic and his time at Microsoft. My favourite time with the franchise was release 4 and 5 as it was amazing how quickly things developed. Also we were on Compuserve and our forum was Go FSFORUM where we shared new scenery and aircraft, much like we still do today but back then everything was new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Interesting. I think this is the second MS flight simulator. A friend of mine demonstrated a wireframe version to me on an early PC. It was just wireframe, not even filled textures, blocks etc. Frame rates were about 1-2 per second. I don't think it even had an inside view, it was just an outside wireframe aircraft over a segmented wireframe ground. I had just purchased the Amiga that had Sublogic Flight Simulator 2 with green carpet and pyramid mountains and a wireframe Golden Gate Bridge that ran up to 3-4 fps, and I was soooo unimpressed witht he Microsoft attempt that was being proudly shown off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimh20 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 On 09/09/2016 at 0:08 AM, Matthew Kane said: If you guys would like to experience the first MS Flight Simulator click on this link: https://archive.org/details/msdos_Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_v3.0_1988 That version is basically the same as Sublogic Flight Simulator 2, when Microsoft bought it from Sublogic they reprogrammed it for DOS and repackaged it with Microsoft on the box. You can take off from Meigs and fly south and make your way to Willard Airport. This was most likely a drive that Bruce Artwick made many times to go to school there and likely why he choose it for his first scenery area. You will also notice a lot of the keyboard commands are still the same today. It wasn't until Flight Simulator 4 that things really started to come of age with aircraft and scenery design as well as digital sound. Flight Sim 5 was the first with photo display, from their the milestones were incremental but 4 and 5 really raised the bar. And yes Bruce Artwick was behind most of that innovation until he left. Bruce's other companies were Mallard and BAO (Bruce Artwick Organization) as well as Sublogic and his time at Microsoft. My favourite time with the franchise was release 4 and 5 as it was amazing how quickly things developed. Also we were on Compuserve and our forum was Go FSFORUM where we shared new scenery and aircraft, much like we still do today but back then everything was new. I started with FS5, but Compuserve is also a name from the past. Do you remember Gunner? He was the first person to welcome me to the FsForum, which for me was the first friendly, helpful, FS Family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Wow, tracing the past - that's amazing... I impressed how far simulation has brought us and how grandly it resembles reality, well done all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Kane Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 10 hours ago, jimh20 said: I started with FS5, but Compuserve is also a name from the past. Do you remember Gunner? He was the first person to welcome me to the FsForum, which for me was the first friendly, helpful, FS Family. I do remember Gunner. It was such a small community back then. I also recall the hefty Compuserve bills on a little 2400bps Dial Up modem and how long it took to download things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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