skimmer Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 After watching the Meigs Field intro video I am reminded that one thing that is missing in all FSX are waves on shores and any where the waters meet land or structures.Sure sometimes if the angle and distance are just right you might catch a glimpse of some but they are sporadic at best. Anyway it would add a lot of realism. Any thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yes, and they're missing in P3D too. Mind you, if memory serves me correctly they were always an 'add-on'. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwalker Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think this was in the list of changes in P3D 3.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 If that's the case, it's mighty persuasive for me to update from 3.1! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbazillio Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Correct. Waves on Shores are back in 3.2 Some mentionned the effect is less pleasant to see than in FSx, are too fast and please note that waves on shore do not get displayed on add-on scenery. Look for them on default shorelines only. THIS IS NOT P3D 3.2 DEFAULT WAVES ON SHORE and they aren't displayed on top of specific sea textures : Orbx Southern California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 If you mean the small shoreline wavelets breaking to the shore, I can confirm these are indeed back in 3.2. They look a bit different from FSX (as far as I recall them), but they returned. Some hate them as unrealistic, but I am happy we have them back. They're not always/anywhere present (depending on wind, I think), but taking off from KSFO and making a round trip along the San Francisco shore you'll usually meet them somewhere. Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbazillio Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexbo47 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 It's good to see them. It would be nice if someone could slow them down a bit, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrooke Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 waves in p3d v3.2 are totally unrealistic & I wish there was a way of turning them off. waves on shoreline maybe but all around a marina no thanks. regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger Sandmann Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Hi guys, FYI, in most of the FTX Regions we use our own version of these shoreline surf effects that are a bit less pronounced and move slower. On the other hand, we discovered that these types of effects (they are essentially short repeating movie clips placed on top of the water) can have a pretty significant impact on resource use and may lead to micro-stutters, particularly in areas with complex shorelines and/or many small islands. Thus, we generally limit their use to areas with wide sandy beaches. Cheers, Holger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Hi Holger, you cought me. Flying nearly exclusively in ORBX land, I obviously observed your ORBX waves instead of the native P3D ones. At least yours don't look bad. Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmer Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 That is what I was thinking also Holger. Maybe some discussion at your next team meeting could be about waves. Like an application related to the amount of sparse grasses and parked aircraft at airports except we could choose wave effects as none, light, medium or heavy. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aero-3fsx Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 13 hours ago, Holger Sandmann said: Thus, we generally limit their use to areas with wide sandy beaches. Now I know why I haven't seen any waves in Norway i P3D v3.2, hundreds of islands & virtually no beaches If there is going to be an adjustment for waves it should tie in with how much wind there is for P3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Oh well. That's put me off having 3.2 then! I quite like the Orbx waves....when you see them, but was hoping to get them with my photo scenery as well. Mind you, I expect that would be unrealistic because the default shorelines are very inaccurate and don't match up with the real thing in Photo scenery anyway. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB356 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Yes, it's not a good look and they are very distracting, I'd rather have none at all than the 3.2 effect. I'm with 3.1 at the moment and I'm tempted to wait and see what 3.3 will bring. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triplane Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 17 hours ago, robrooke said: waves in p3d v3.2 are totally unrealistic & I wish there was a way of turning them off. waves on shoreline maybe but all around a marina no thanks. regards. I couldn't agree more. I hope we can find a way to turn them off completely. Having no waves is far better than this. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Pettichord Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Do I remember correctly that water effects in general are very difficult for scenery developers to work with? Massive memory resources required for even simple stuff? If this is true, what would need to change for more realistic water effects to be available at a minimum computing price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjoman1960 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 On 25.3.2016 at 7:57 PM, robrooke said: waves in p3d v3.2 are totally unrealistic & I wish there was a way of turning them off. waves on shoreline maybe but all around a marina no thanks. regards. +1 i hate them cheers Ralf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmer Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Vbazillio, those waves in your video are to much. Way to white and big. I have the FSX/ACC and even those are less. If orbx does build a wave injector I hope the waves are grayer and much smaller. Thanks for that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 26/03/2016 at 8:37 AM, banjoman1960 said: +1 i hate them cheers Ralf Same here, better to have nothing that something that is totally unrealistic. A choice to have them on or off would be a great idea for those who do like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbazillio Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 7 hours ago, skimmer said: Vbazillio, those waves in your video are to much. Way to white and big. I have the FSX/ACC and even those are less. If orbx does build a wave injector I hope the waves are grayer and much smaller. Thanks for that video. Totally agree. However yesterday, I saw some waves which didn't look awfull : Indeed, at least a tuning slider or an ON/OFF switch maybe a good idea ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Waves are nice when they are straight one. With curves, they look really unralistic and have bad impact to perf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Well, if you don't like them there is a way to stop them showing in P3Dv3.2 and that is to reduce your water settings. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbazillio Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 hour ago, JohnY said: Well, if you don't like them there is a way to stop them showing in P3Dv3.2 and that is to reduce your water settings. John Just made a quick test by changing settings from OFF, LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH to ULTRA and shore waves are still there : What did I wrong ? To remove the wave effect on the shore, you have to set SPECIAL EFFECTS to LOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjoman1960 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 but then you miss other effects also,there must bee a way to delite this or edit a cfg........... best were a checkbox in menue cheers Ralf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 On 28.3.2016 at 0:15 PM, vbazillio said: Just made a quick test by changing settings from OFF, LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH to ULTRA and shore waves are still there : What did I wrong ? To remove the wave effect on the shore, you have to set SPECIAL EFFECTS to LOW. Apart from the shore waves: I think Low is the best setting as it seems most realistic and has the least performance impact. Greetings, Bermuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Low Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 waves in p3d v3.2 are totally unrealistic & I wish there was a way of turning them off. This is one reason why I am still using P3D v3.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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