cvearl Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I have been slowly forming my "will stay in my hangar forever" list. Those planes that I can feel the air interract with the plane. Where I can feel the edge of the envelope sometimes. Especially now with EZCA. Current list of favorites. A2A Piper Cub J3 wtih Accusim Real Air Scout/Decathalon/Citabria Real Air Duke Turbine Aerosoft Diamond DA20-100 4X Is the Sibwings Bdog a good addition to this list and are there others at this level I am leaving off? Also have to be detailed in the views and all the little working bits. PS - While some may not agree I have to add Carenado Bonanza F33 current version to this list. Thanks! I meant to post in Pilots Lounge. Can someone relocate this? Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Myers Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 She's definitely one of my all-time favorites. I have a similar list, and this one is a proud member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerclaw Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I think the BirdDog could be added to that list yes. I've flown it a LOT, and still love to take it out in the ORBX scenery for a low and slow tour. To me it feels very much "alive", but I must stress I'm NOT a pilot, so what would I know Others I would add to MY "Definitely keep in my hanger" list would be, A2A WOP3 Spitfire, B-17, P-47 all with Accusim. ( If you like those sort of planes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Attwood Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 The BirdDog is a must have. No question. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Yep. Great VC detailing and a very good FM. You have to keep her speed up on landing, like the real one, so I'm told. I'd add the Carenado C185 over the Bonanza to that list, but I do like the little A35 Vtail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Womack Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 It's got one of the most used and abused VCs ever - and I mean that in the best way possible. As digital art, it's first-class. It's been a while since I flew it, but I recall it being very satisfactory in the flight dynamics area as well. My vote: stick it in that hangar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5055100597 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 If you own it, the PMDG 737NGX is a must-keep too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5055100597 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Also, the Carenado Skymaster or Cessna 210 is a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtualwombat Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Great VC, there is no doubt! Pin-sharp realism. No so impressed with the flight dynamics, particularly with flaps down a notch on take-off. A2A or RealAir it ain't. Cheers, Noel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggerBoat Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Have you taken a look at the RealAir SF260, Charles? It's my favorite FS9/FSX plane. A true classic. Not as photo-real in the cockpit as something like the BirdDog, but it flies like a dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontay Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I'd have to give it another resounding yes. The Birdog is a must have. Trust me, you'll have no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbflyer Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I have the Bird Dog, but I became frustrated by the radio tuning bug. (Cannot always select all frequencies.) I also could not get the ADF to work consistently. This may be a petty criticism, but I use the FSX ATC a lot and like to track NDBs. The original version was impossible to take off or land in a moderate crosswind, but Sibwings fixed this in the update. The plane I fly most if the RealAir Scout. It has the best combination of handling, visibility looking out and reasonably high cruise speed of the various addons (many) I own. It would be nice if an updated version of the Scout was released, but the current version is still much better than 90% of the stuff out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derxtreme Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The BirdDog is a must have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Abernathy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 It's in my top 3 of most flown aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvearl Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Wow! Thanks everyone. I have it earmarked for a soon to drain my wallet item. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lovell Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 It's such a thrill to get into the seat of 'The Dog' once in a while! It was after I saw John V demoing it in one of his vids that made me wanna buy this amazing aircraft.. As everyone else says, a must have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The SibWings Bird Dog is a "must have" for backcountry flying under VFR conditions. This aircraft in the latest version V 1.2 (FDE modification done by Alexander Metzger) is well done so far. A bit tricky here and there but generally no problem to fly her. Note: F-model: You cannot fly an ILS approach During ILS approaches the aircraft is always positioned to the right of the LOC when the needle was centered. There is no "TO/FROM" indication on the instrument. Questions about this are not answered anymore in the SibWing forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Attwood Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Questions about this are not answered anymore in the SibWing forum. Very little is answered by the Sibwing forum but don't let that put you off. Andrey does answer PMs and emails swiftly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockliffe Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I love the little dog, woof, woof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerclaw Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 It was after I saw John V demoing it in one of his vids that made me wanna buy this amazing aircraft.. Yeah John made me buy it aswell It was the same video that prompted me to go and buy it. Then 4 other guys I fly with went and bought it too. JV has a lot to answer for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvearl Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 The SibWings Bird Dog is a "must have" for backcountry flying under VFR conditions. This aircraft in the latest version V 1.2 (FDE modification done by Alexander Metzger) is well done so far. A bit tricky here and there but generally no problem to fly her. Note: F-model: You cannot fly an ILS approach During ILS approaches the aircraft is always positioned to the right of the LOC when the needle was centered. There is no "TO/FROM" indication on the instrument. Questions about this are not answered anymore in the SibWing forum. Are we certain this was not an offset approach? Many approaches are not aligned with the runways. They can be off to one side or on an angle for a reason. Usually terrain. The ILS at Bowerman is a straight in. http://tiles.skyvector.com/sky/files/tpp/1110/pdf/00889ILD24.PDF I have not tried the ILS there yet. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 >> The ILS at Bowerman is a straight in. I tried Bowerman and many other straight in ILS. Same problem. Following the course deviation bar will lead you right off the runway. Glide slope bar is ok. See the difference when using a standard MS C-172 or any other airplane with a functional ILS. This problem was brought up in their forum, Jan 20, 2011 and again Feb 10, 2011 - no response!!! (If this wasn't an error, it would have been easy to answer) Nevertheless, as I said before, a great plane for VFR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvearl Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 >> The ILS at Bowerman is a straight in. I tried Bowerman and many other straight in ILS. Same problem. Following the course deviation bar will lead you right off the runway. Glide slope bar is ok. See the difference when using a standard MS C-172 or any other airplane with a functional ILS. This problem was brought up in their forum, Jan 20, 2011 and again Feb 10, 2011 - no response!!! (If this wasn't an error, it would have been easy to answer) Nevertheless, as I said before, a great plane for VFR!!! That kind of sucks. Well. I have to look at it after this many positive endorsements. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfko Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 That kind of sucks. Well. I have to look at it after this many positive endorsements. C. I'm also considering to buy the Bird Dog, and I actually do not much bother about its ability to fly ILS approaches. The Bird Dog is not the kind of plane typically used for precision instrument approaches (would be different if it was the NGX ). Wolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflygary Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The Bird Dog is not the kind of plane typically used for precision instrument approaches (would be different if it was the NGX ). Wolfgang Agreed Wolfgang! I save precison ILS approaches for something like the Baron or the Duke. The only IFR flying I do in the Bird Dog is the ( I Follow Roads) IFR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I agree the arguments said above. Nevertheless, not using this plane for ILS does not automatically mean an excuse for the authors selling a product which isn't fully functional. I paid full price, I didn't get a discount for this unsolved problem. And this is not the only technical problem. But I do not decribe other ones here. Users have wide variety of different opinions when an aircraft is to be called "great or excellent" . Some are quite satisfied if it is easy to use and easy to fly, others want a plane with "real" FDE, highly texured from outside and inside (VC) and of course fully funtional in every aspect that is offered. So again, Bird Dog is an excellent VFR aircraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billhuntsman Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I have the Bird Dog, but I became frustrated by the radio tuning bug. (Cannot always select all frequencies.) I also could not get the ADF to work consistently. This may be a petty criticism, but I use the FSX ATC a lot and like to track NDBs. The original version was impossible to take off or land in a moderate crosswind, but Sibwings fixed this in the update. The plane I fly most if the RealAir Scout. It has the best combination of handling, visibility looking out and reasonably high cruise speed of the various addons (many) I own. It would be nice if an updated version of the Scout was released, but the current version is still much better than 90% of the stuff out there. I have enjoyed this aircraft, but I got frustrated with the ADF as well. Sometimes it registered the signal and sometimes not and it did not seem to correlate with distance or obstructions. When I posted this issue I was told that real ADF's are sometimes flaky and so I shouldn't worry about it. I still think it's a bug and not an attempt to model this behavior. That being said, I enjoyed flying it and its great visibility, which is great for scenery. However, I hardly fly anything but A2A aircraft with Accusim anymore. They just seem more realistic. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I agree the arguments said above. Nevertheless, not using this plane for ILS does not automatically mean an excuse for the authors selling a product which isn't fully functional. I paid full price, I didn't get a discount for this unsolved problem. And this is not the only technical problem. But I do not decribe other ones here. Users have wide variety of different opinions when an aircraft is to be called "great or excellent" . Some are quite satisfied if it is easy to use and easy to fly, others want a plane with "real" FDE, highly texured from outside and inside (VC) and of course fully funtional in every aspect that is offered. So again, Bird Dog is an excellent VFR aircraft! +1 I have the Bird Dog in my hangar as well and i enjoy jumping into it´s cokpit and fly around with it quite often. But one thing´s for sure: It´s features are not comparable to what the A2A Cub, the RealAir Scout or the Katana (just to list a few here) have to offer. Nonetheless: The BirdDog is a real great fun to fly around with and i don´t want to miss it - yet ... on the other hand I also think that it´s just a little sad somehow, that it´s developer stopped tuning it a little bit to early in some way, with the latest update being released almost a year ago by now. If that would not have been this way, the BirdDog could possibly be put alongside here with the Cub and all the other great add-on-planes named here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Just picked this up finally, does anyone know if Grandsurf's beautiful looking HD VC repaint ever got released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Attwood Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Just picked this up finally, does anyone know if Grandsurf's beautiful looking HD VC repaint ever got released? Yeah, whatever happened to that? It was coming along nicely then it disappeared off the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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