ArturAir Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Hello ORBX developers! Let me congratulate you with 10th Anniversary! Wish you all the best!!! And I have a question about openLC serious sceneries. Do you plan to release other regions in this year? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sierra Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 OpenLCAfrica or OpenLCAsia (even if in parts) would be great! Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 OpenLC Africa is being worked on and due this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Tako Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArturAir Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 Nice! Thanks John for answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sierra Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 wow! great! Hopefully just in time, when I reach Africa on my way 'back home' from my round-the-world-tour! Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGeeBee Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Africa seems to be the forgotten continent in the flight sim community. Why?!? Africa is the world's second largest and second most-populous continent (the first being Asia in both categories), and probably one of the continents in world, except Oceania, that is most dependent on air traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Very weird. Some time back JV posted that Orbx had developed a process by which the OpenLC programs would be completed faster than before. Seems like they're going slower instead. Feels like I've been waiting for Africa forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 There was also talk about having Vector type data built in in newer versions of OLC. I would be happy if just the coastlines would be made to look more realistic than the sharp and straight lines of default scenery coastlines. Vector does a good job of the coasts but additional elevation data leads to complications which require AEC tool usage plateaus, troughs and water up hills and cliffs, building in the sea etc. Hence I no longer have Vector installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Hello, your post contains some misconceptions. "Buildings in the sea" are misplaced default coastal scenery objects, left in the water when Vector corrects the coastline. Sometimes there are whole "airports in the sea". "troughs and water up hills and cliffs" do sometimes occur and the Vector developers have sometimes corrected them. They are not widespread. "additional elevation data leads to complications which require AEC tool usage plateaus" applies only to add on airports and the AEC configuration tool is effective and easy to use. I think that it is unlikely that an OLC product will include Vector data but anything is possible. I am not aware of any promises in that respect. Without a doubt, the virtual world outside Orbx regions is a far better looking place with Vector installed and working than it is without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I have a number of bush flying programs that were made with no vector in mind. So a couple days ago I decided to take vector out and see the difference. No vector would eliminate the occasional scenery in the water and similar effects. I happened to be flying a plan in the Aleutian islands at the time. The difference was astounding. The improvement with vector was incredible. I decided to leave vector in. Vector isn't perfect. My biggest beef is finding default water locations in remote areas of places like south America or Africa. The excuse is a lack of data. I understand that but there's no excuse for not "rounding" the water areas so they look better than default. Even though outsiders made vector, it's being sold by Orbx and should uphold that quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Hello, while you do have a point, there is a very very long awaited Vector 1.6 update due which was originally intended to be released at the same time as Open LC South America. While you don't seem to see the lack of data as an "excuse" I am given to understand that the most recent enquiry to the Vector developers revealed that apparently the improvements are having to be done manually. I know nothing of how this is done but the sheer scale of the continent might suggest that the task is huge. I don't understand why you or anyone would want one inaccuracy replaced by another one, rounded or not and I doubt that the Vector developers would settle for that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Nick, I understand what you're saying but don't agree. Yes, it is a huge task to look at South America or Africa and make the water look nice. I believe it wouldn't be even close to the task of making OpenLC. Each continent could be done in a few weeks imo and should be done. Why put rounded water on an area that is probably incorrect? If the correct location isn't known, making the water look nicer should be done so it will look nicer. That should be part of the vector product and is part of the vector product in many areas. Really, I and pretty much everybody, would never know if the water is in the correct place or not. If Pilots is not capable of doing the job properly for Orbx, perhaps Orbx might consider alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F737MAX Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 If correcting Vector detail is going to be done, best that it is done properly the first time, rather than put in fake data to 'look nicer' and then potentially re-doing it at a later date, or worse, leaving it incorrect. Enough simmers complain about incorrect details in FS products as it is. Why would you release a product with problems? That way only lies trouble for ORBX and the developers.@Nick Cooper is there any news regarding the "very very long awaited Vector 1.6 update"? I would hope that it could be released at the same time as OLC Africa (with Africa and Middle East regions having also been worked upon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Hello Geezer, Vector will not be updated with intentionally incorrect data. Doing so is not "doing the job properly". F37NG, no there is no news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Just to clarify, I suggest improving the looks of default data in some instances because it has been said there is no data available for those areas. I don't suggest improving data that is known to be incorrect. Obviously, if data is known to be incorrect, it should be corrected first. I still believe it is better to make this unknown data water areas look nice than leaving them looking like default. No doubt it will never happen. It seems Pilots is unable even to come out with their overdue update let alone embark on an additional project.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sante Sottile Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 1:42 AM, Mike Sierra said: OpenLCAsia Michael. This is #1 on my list of "wanted" products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiFlyer99 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 So far since OpenLC Africa is still not announced for shorten the waiting time... This was the latest status of the development. And that was Pre-Alpha! Which looks already stunning! https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/138942-ok-olc-sa-is-past-next-olc-africa-pleeeease/?tab=comments#comment-1231266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 " buildings in the sea are misplaced default coastal scenery objects". I know they are but my point is that if you are making an addon as detailed in it's "correct/accurate" data as Vector is supposed to be, then surely you also need to correct the conflicts/issues that this "accuracy" causes to default objects. What is the point in having an accurate coastline definition if it leaves default buildings in the water? Either place them where they should be or mask them. I honestly believe that the concept of Vector could be one of the best addons, it is just that the product, in my view, has always appeared as unfinished, conflict inducing and the developers so slow in attending to reported issues that unfortunately I ended up in only seeing the flaws in it, rather than enjoying the good parts of it. It is too complex because of it's intention to make it absolutely accurate in all vector type detail that just don't sit well on flawed "default" base sim data. It is like it needs to actually change the details in the default sim data rather than try and "sit on top" of the default data. Just my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Hello, I would agree with some of that, I was only pointing out that Vector itself does not put buildings or airports in the sea. Vector does what it says and corrects the coastlines, sometimes leaving the Microsoft coastal features either in the sea from the land or from the sea onto dry land. The Vector developers have consistently taken the view that these anomalies are not theirs to correct but you will have noted that Orbx has produced a good many revised coastal airports in response to customer observations. It must be said that as a Global product, it might be too much to expect global corrections. Drawing a comparison with the regions, which take months and sometimes years to develop and make all the corrections, a fully corrected vector product would have been prohibitively expensive and possibly not yet complete. As to the subject of the topic, both South America and Africa feature some spectacular inaccuracies and omissions in the default simulator in relation to virtually all the features, mesh, airports, vector and landclass. Open LC South America goes a very long way towards correcting the landclass and the developer found that the default mesh was so lacking that he also provided the free South America mesh product. As already stated, Pilot's were to have provided the enhanced Vector data which would have left only airports and airfields to complete the set. Hopefully, the Vector update to version 1.6 will still take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lars Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Well, as a big fan of the Global product series, I really hope that these amazing products are continued and improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Don't worry, they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady7970 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hi all, Is OpenLC Africa almost ready for release? Cheers, Ady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickel Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Scroll down a bit. Looks quite spectacular. No doubt we'll see mountains in the late beta shots from Iain and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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