Griphos Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 No, that's not it. Tried several airfields with different aircraft and there's some kind of problem at most of them. I don't know how it buggered up my install, but it did. Royally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Could be a DX problem, Try reinstalling DX9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Great idea. Tried to do that, but 9.0c webinstaller said all files were newer and wouldn't reinstall. Any way to make it reinstall? Edit: Found the DirectX 9.0c redistributable and installed it. It added quite a few files. That didn't fix it though. Further experimentation (hey, if I can avoid a total reinstall, I'll do pretty much anything) shows that the problem doesn't occur with FTX set to Default. It does with either NA or Australia enabled (even if I take off from a PNW airport with Australia enabled). So, it appears to be related to the Orbx scenery files. Not sure how it buggered those, but it appears some file(s?) that is active when Orbx scenery is enabled and replaced when Default scenery is enabled is the culprit. Before I reinstall everything, I'll try reinstalling PNW to see if that fixes it. Off to check on the proper way to reinstall that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I can't see the problem being a FXAA thing as it doesn't in anyway interfere with the drivers, I would still delete the FSX config and let FSX build it's own and see what happens, sometimes my text in the ATC window goes all crappy and the rebuild config fixes the issue. When the config rebuilds it takes into account the GPU settings at the time so you may have missed something when you copied over your back-up. Really is worth the try Also you could have a problem with your scenery cfg file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well, the FXAA thing is the only thing I changed. I've been flying FSX a LOOOOONNNNG time and have never had this problem before. I tried the FXAA files. Didn't like the result. Got rid of them. Checked carefully that I deleted each of the files I dropped into the root folder. Then fired up FSX again and this started happening! I'll try the rebuild config experiment. I'll look at the scenery.cfg file, but am not sure how to spot any problem there. Thanks for your help so far. It's pretty frustrating! I tried re-installing the latest PNW .004 patch, but that didn't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Anything of a duplicate nature in the scenery cfg is going to give problems, you say everything is fine when FTX is set to the FSX default scenery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Yes, I tried it on default several times, after switching to NA and OZ in FTX Central. It was always fine on Default. I just let FSX build a new fsx.cfg and have loaded the game several times and so far, no problems. I checked my fsx.cfg line by line and saw no changes, so it's weird that this could have been the problem, but you called it! I'm going to add in my EZCA lines and a couple of other changes (like my LOD and buildings and trees tweaks) but I'll let all the dll's get "trusted" and added as I use them. Keep your fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I would let FSX add the EZCA line itself when ask at start up if you 'trust this program' than manually adding the line to the config, and yes FSX is completely weird that way, a mind of itself sometimes (most times) keep us posted on how things go Damn I should have told you to make a copy of your 'control' file also, I'm afraid you will have to set up your key and joystick control settings again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Didn't have to add any EZCA line, as I did "trust" it when FSX restarted. I just added the other lines and changed widescreenview. I don't ever let it accept the default mappings, so my controls stay the same. Besides, I backed them up before I deleted the fsx.cfg anyway. ) I couldn't find any repetition in the scenery.cfg file. Off to test some more after the few changes I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiko Glatthorn Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Wolter, so you use 8xSQ plus FXAA ? Griphos, add [GRAPHICS] SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=31 (<- number of your choice) to reload the shader cache. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thanks Heiko. I think letting FSX rebuild the cfg fixed it, but I'll add this just in case. Makes sense that this is the problem, since FXAA uses it's own shaders. I should have thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realatp Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 If I use AA in INspector do I turn it off in FTXAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Ok I give in...what's Post Process Injection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaestro Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Ok I give in...what's Post Process Injection Just what it sounds like. Post-processing means the image, i.e. each frame, is rendered first, then the graphics card essentially looks at it and uses special techniques to add effects to it, such as HDR lighting and bloom. In this case it's using some fancy blurring techniques on the image. As for the 'injection', well I'm guessing here, but I would say it's because it's an external utility doing the effects, injecting them into FSX. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynthorpe Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Wolter, where are them first 3 screens taken?! I dont recognise that Dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Wolter, so you use 8xSQ plus FXAA ? well I'm testing it Heiko, as said so far so good and as usual, nothing is carved in stone ........... and always eager to listen to your most valued advice Wolter, where are them first 3 screens taken?! I dont recognise that Dam. erm ........... 1WA6 a lil bit up river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Bernes Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I got it to work on second try, but still very blurry instruments in the cockpit of aircrafts such as the hornet and NGX, anyway to reduce the blurring effect in the cockpit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynthorpe Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I got it to work on second try, but still very blurry instruments in the cockpit of aircrafts such as the hornet and NGX, anyway to reduce the blurring effect in the cockpit? You could try forcing AF in nvidia inspector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie P. Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I just totally removed my enb series I had dropped in (not sure if your using it or not), because I was tired of my sim making me look up and down constantly (reminded of seeing people who have bifocals, having to look up and down to see things..) lol. Perhaps thought, if your using it, you could just get rid of it, as I did after downloading and installing this "gem" of a find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek McAllan Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I just totally removed my enb series I had dropped in (not sure if your using it or not), because I was tired of my sim making me look up and down constantly (reminded of seeing people who have bifocals, having to look up and down to see things..) lol. Perhaps thought, if your using it, you could just get rid of it, as I did after downloading and installing this "gem" of a find. Look up and down? Why?? Did you have depth of field activated? If so you can just disable that... Cheers, Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie P. Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I know that all I had to do was just disable it, but I was really only using it for picture taking reasons to begin with anyway. It's not as if keeping it some how offered me a boost in performance or anything. I thought it was cool to have at first, but then realized that I only really wanted it because I saw it being used in one of them promo vid's and thought it added a cool affect (but really it's pretty trivial lol). Besides, it's always there if I decide otherwise ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvearl Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I would let FSX add the EZCA line itself when ask at start up if you 'trust this program' than manually adding the line to the config, and yes FSX is completely weird that way, a mind of itself sometimes (most times) keep us posted on how things go Damn I should have told you to make a copy of your 'control' file also, I'm afraid you will have to set up your key and joystick control settings again I have found almost every splat I have had in FSX is solved by letting FSX rebuild the CFG. I dont even look in there anymore. I just do it. Ha. It's like a 1 minute fix all. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Myers Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Hmm, well I have a weird issue where the effects seem to be applied when looking at the free flight screen with the airplane preview, but when I launch a flight and actually get in-game I see no effects. Just the normal FSX display. Not sure what causes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lovell Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I tried this, but didnt work on my machine.... when a flight was loaded, the bloom was so extreme, everything was really bright and washed out... it looked like 'The Flash' when a nuke goes off!! Uninstalled from my route folder and now FSX is buggered up.... bloom is really harsh, everything still washed out and so bright it hurts.. Any help please..... looks like I maybe going down the route now of a complete reinstall, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 See Heiko's fix above. You just need to enter the line in FSX.XFG to force FSX to rebuild the shade cache(because FXAA had its own shavers and you removed them with the uninstall. They really should make it clear you will have this problem in the readme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lovell Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 See Heiko's fix above. You just need to enter the line in FSX.XFG to force FSX to rebuild the shade cache(because FXAA had its own shavers and you removed them with the uninstall. They really should make it clear you will have this problem in the readme! That's exellent thanks and I will try that...Im really hoping I get this fixed... honestly, I been really pleased with the way my FSX is looking lately. Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiko Glatthorn Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Magic bullet fail #49 Seriously, i wouldn't touch that even with a light-pole... And i try usually everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I wish I hadn't. But I seem to have gotten things back to normal (and even better...since I've installed Shade now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Newman Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hi all... I'd love to give this a try... Sadly, whenever I install it, I get an error telling me that FSX could not load some files and I need to repair the installation... Uninstall it and reload the shaders and it's just fine again. I noticed there are a ton of different versions on the linked download page... Does it matter which one I use? (I was just downloading the latest one)... Failing that, any ideas how I can get this to work? (I've tried running as admin and all the usual suspects...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm glad I have sat on the fence with this one, doesn't seem to be worth the hassle, more of a gimmick as far as I can see as the unsuccessful seems to out-weigh the successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynthorpe Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Other forums i go on swear by it now! Ive not some across anyone with problems away from this forum really, ive spoke to the dev and there are updates on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Myers Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 To be fair, my installation doesn't seem to tolerate any module using the d3d9.dll method. Some work but produce a black screen that can't be recovered from, such as the antilag and ENB applications, and others don't seem to work at all as is the case with FXAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Well, I don't think there are problems just using it (except for not liking the way it looks). ) The problems start when you try to uninstall it by deleting the files and folders. It messes with the shade cache since the program used its own shade files in its own folder and you just deleted it when you uninstalled! ) I found that forcing FSX to rebuild the cache, either by letting it rebuild the fsx.cfg or by inserting a line in it to force the rebuild solves the problem. So, all those guys on those other forums may not have uninstalled it since they're happy with it, and thus haven't experienced any problems. And yes, it seems on my system as well that any application using it's own d3.dll causes problems. ENB and Antilag both made my game quite unstable (and ENB created a significant performance hit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 as heiko posted , [GRAPHICS] SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=31 (<- number of your choice) create your shader line in the fsx.cfg and if you change something change the number it will rebuild a new shader cache and it should be solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynthorpe Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Strange, i never had any problems deleting the files and going straight back into FSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie P. Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I still can't believe what this has enabled me to do in terms of overall experience myself. I wouldn't think this to be any sort of "quick fix", but am rather glad I gave it a shot. It's unfortunate that the same goes for others who have had trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J van E Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Gave it a try. With FSAA disabled in Inspector it looked awful... Fps was a bit better maybe. WIth FSAA enabled in Inspector it looked just as it did without this injection-addon... So I removed it: I can't see what's so great about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Myers Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Gave it a try. With FSAA disabled in Inspector it looked awful... Fps was a bit better maybe. WIth FSAA enabled in Inspector it looked just as it did without this injection-addon... So I removed it: I can't see what's so great about it... If you are like me (and I know I am), it looked the same because it was. For me the effect is only visible on the aircraft preview window, noticeable by hitting the pause key repeatedly to see the difference, but once a flight is launched I see no effects. Hitting the pause key then yields no difference indicating to me that it isn't injecting anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrottleUp Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hey guys really interesting topic and nice-looking app. However I followed the instructions and dumped all those files into the root FSX folder. But nothings happening in the sim - I dont see any difference. I fired up the FXAA tool (the one with all the sliders) and maxed them out (to check to see if they were doing their thing). ..still nothing. Its like it refuses to work! Have I missed something out? Thanks guys! PS: I use the same program in SKYRIM and it works perfectly in that game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Banks Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ..still nothing. Its like it refuses to work! Have I missed something out? Thanks guys! I had heaps of problems at first, but it wasn't till I found this thread that I got it working. What cured it for me was to: 1) Turn AA completely OFF in nVidia CP, nVidia Inspector (if you use it) *and also in FSX*. 2) Unmap your PAUSE key in FSX, leaving "P" as the default for pausing. 3) Run FXAA_Tool in the background 4) Maximise/minimise once to activate (or refresh new settings). I have a GTX580 and, for some reason, nVidia Inspector and/or the nVidia CP totally refuse to apply any changes to my system. I've tried everything. When AA is enabled (in FSX and nVidia) it's not FSAA and seems to default to what looks like 2x. FXAA_Tool seems to be the only way I can force my system to do FSAA - and I don't use any of the other effects ... only AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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