craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hi Orbx, can you please advise if there will be any pathway for already purchased (via Orbx Central & Direct) Orbx PC addons to be available as 'cross-buy' discounted versions for the Xbox? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, craigeaglefire said: Hi Orbx, can you please advise if there will be any pathway for already purchased (via Orbx Central & Direct) Orbx PC addons to be available as 'cross-buy' discounted versions for the Xbox? Craig = Already asked the boss Edited August 4, 2021 by John Heaton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, John Heaton said: Craig = Already asked the boss Thanks, John I guess we are waiting on confirmation from 'above'... even wondering about a Series S Xbox as a backup for MFS (they are available in Oz now)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, craigeaglefire said: Thanks, John I guess we are waiting on confirmation from 'above'... even wondering about a Series S Xbox as a backup for MFS (they are available in Oz now)... I just made a comment to Wayne71 on the subject - I have watched a number of videos comparing the S and X Conclusion was --- I gain nothing from the S compared to my mid range PC - but the X is so much better and other comparisons show that the X is around the best PC power in 4KHDR10 Although in OZ the difference is $250 - I will keep hoping one will come to me one day - and meanwhile - I'll Low and slow VFR in 2020 - and Fly all my oldie birds in a Mass of Orbx goodies in my 50" HD - and keep my 43' 4K until someone higher smiles at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 @John Heaton, all I’m hearing is Orbx ‘official silence’… however, it would seem, John, that we have asked a reasonable question… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hello, the "official" reply to the question is here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Yes, @Nick Cooper quoting Anna:- Our understanding is that if you currently own one of our products on PC, and that same product is available on Xbox, you will get it "for free." I quickly responded with emoticon at the time, just simply asking where this is at - now MFS is released for Xbox Series X/S… Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hello, do you have an X Box and if so, have you tried buying an Orbx product that you already own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: do you have an X Box and if so, have you tried buying an Orbx product that you already own? no Xbox until I can verify the status of my current PC Orbx products library to be made available ‘for free’ for my potential Xbox library, then I will make my Xbox purchase decision… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hello, the CEO has already made the intention clear but as you will perhaps have noticed, what happens at Orbx and what happens at the Marketplace do not usually do so at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: the CEO has already made the intention clear is that bankable? if so - then I can make Xbox purchase decision… please advise if I can proceed with transferring all my current MFS Orbx licences for PC addons to Xbox now - ‘for $free’… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I am guessing that Orbx is on Marketplace within the Xbox enviroment, so if it's compatible it should be available in Sim and this is how it gets installed....how does Marketplace know I have it in Orbx Central? Monday I was in sim on my Xbox, I bought Carenado C170B, the next day when I was in sim on my PC it downloaded the plane, but my guess is if you didn't buy the initial version from Marketplace this won't happen? I hope that makes sense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 only thing I can see is NZ mesh and I don't own that so can't test it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, wain71 said: how does Marketplace know I have it in Orbx Central? good question… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfko Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) @craigeaglefire Maye this will answer your questions (scroll down to Anna's statement): Edited August 4, 2021 by wolfko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigeaglefire Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 @wolfko yes, quoting Anna (from June 2021):- Our understanding is that if you currently own one of our products on PC, and that same product is available on Xbox, you will get it "for free." it is now August 2021 & MFS for Xbox Series X/S is released now… what is my guarantee? - that if I purchase an Xbox X or S now - that my Orbx PC library will automatically be freely available on said new Xbox now? just asking for Xbox pre-purchase clarification… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfko Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, craigeaglefire said: @wolfko what is my guarantee? - that if I purchase an Xbox X or S now - that my Orbx PC library will automatically be freely available on said new Xbox now? just asking for Xbox pre-purchase clarification… There is no guarantee yet. We have to accept this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacewolf1 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 hours ago, wain71 said: how does Marketplace know I have it in Orbx Central? He can't. You MUST buy on in-game store (external store as OC are exclude) on Microsoft Store (PC or Xbox) version (Steam version is exclude). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 12 hours ago, Spacewolf1 said: He can't. You MUST buy on in-game store (external store as OC are exclude) on Microsoft Store (PC or Xbox) version (Steam version is exclude). Since I started this thread elsewhere and commented here - I feel that I must comment further - and agreeing with what Nick said When asked the question sometime ago - Anna made it clear - the intentions of Orbx were to somehow integrate our current P.C. purchases for those of us who intended to go to X Box Series X sometime in the future. Every man and his dog on this forum should know by now that I am a big fan of X box - and every intention of doing most of my flight simming via the console - with the exception of certain uses of P3D and X Plane that MS2020 cannot give me - and only needs my mid range PC to enjoy. particularly my huge aircraft hangar of older type aircraft Being the impatient bloke I am - and I can't get my hands on a console - due to the shortages - I have purchased quite a number of Orbx scenery and Just Flight aircraft - because of the simple fact that I have been purchasing "stuff" from both these companies for in excess of 15 years - and they have never let me down - so I trust them. What has become fairly obvious since last August - is that Orbx and other major developers have made 2020 what it is today - and the size of peoples Community Files - further indicates the reliance - of the future of the sim - on said developers and cadre of free developers Now we have an X Box version at last - BUT - and it is a big BUT - does the X box version - include all the multitude of these scenery -etc- addons used in the PC - EG. the Orbx Cityscapes - Airports - the aircrafts from Aerosoft - Miviz - Flying Iron - etc I don't - know the answer - but unless said developers have done a deal with MS that the industry is aware of - I doubt it - and if that is the case - then the X Box will fail to grow as MS have forecast recently Microsoft needs these developers - to grow X box users to flight simming - and need the sim to be developed for both PC and Consoles - on the way they have been spruking - the massive developments - in the use of gaming - and methods My conclusion - MS and the developers are still crossing the "T" and the "I's" of a deal to do what the user - ME!! - expects them to do - to give us the sim we have started to enjoy - based on developers - and maybe a solution on the ines of the current 3rd party Community file - a MS Official file - and a paid developer file - used by Orbx Central and others. A monetary adjustment made to MS. Whatever happens - if I cant get get what I have already purchased for Orbx PC - then so be it - it wont be the fault of Orbx for not trying and I will still use my games pass to use a limited Flight sim on the console Now - where can I get my Hands on an X box series X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacewolf1 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Anna have intentions, yes... and it's only intentions... Asobo and MS have their position, and it's clear: only purchase on ingame store from MS version can be transfer to Xbox version (and they let to dev the choice to do this and if it's for free or not). You really think that MS will accept to not touch commission on sales for Xbox ? You really think that MS will accept external content for its console ? Return to reality and business. Xbox is a closed and controled environment, it's not an "open" PC. And you wrong on 2 points: - MS needn't dev as Orbx for FS. It's Orbx that need MS (or Lockheed Martin for P3D) for exist. - target of FS isn't simmer. You think as a simmer veteran. You don't understand that with FS2020 Asobo / MS don't target you, they target general people and casual that research to do tourism or stroll every where... not do flight simming. They have a much bigger vision than the niche of simmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulk Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:32 AM, John Heaton said: Since I started this thread elsewhere and commented here - I feel that I must comment further - and agreeing with what Nick said When asked the question sometime ago - Anna made it clear - the intentions of Orbx were to somehow integrate our current P.C. purchases for those of us who intended to go to X Box Series X sometime in the future. Every man and his dog on this forum should know by now that I am a big fan of X box - and every intention of doing most of my flight simming via the console - with the exception of certain uses of P3D and X Plane that MS2020 cannot give me - and only needs my mid range PC to enjoy. particularly my huge aircraft hangar of older type aircraft Being the impatient bloke I am - and I can't get my hands on a console - due to the shortages - I have purchased quite a number of Orbx scenery and Just Flight aircraft - because of the simple fact that I have been purchasing "stuff" from both these companies for in excess of 15 years - and they have never let me down - so I trust them. What has become fairly obvious since last August - is that Orbx and other major developers have made 2020 what it is today - and the size of peoples Community Files - further indicates the reliance - of the future of the sim - on said developers and cadre of free developers Now we have an X Box version at last - BUT - and it is a big BUT - does the X box version - include all the multitude of these scenery -etc- addons used in the PC - EG. the Orbx Cityscapes - Airports - the aircrafts from Aerosoft - Miviz - Flying Iron - etc I don't - know the answer - but unless said developers have done a deal with MS that the industry is aware of - I doubt it - and if that is the case - then the X Box will fail to grow as MS have forecast recently Microsoft needs these developers - to grow X box users to flight simming - and need the sim to be developed for both PC and Consoles - on the way they have been spruking - the massive developments - in the use of gaming - and methods My conclusion - MS and the developers are still crossing the "T" and the "I's" of a deal to do what the user - ME!! - expects them to do - to give us the sim we have started to enjoy - based on developers - and maybe a solution on the ines of the current 3rd party Community file - a MS Official file - and a paid developer file - used by Orbx Central and others. A monetary adjustment made to MS. Whatever happens - if I cant get get what I have already purchased for Orbx PC - then so be it - it wont be the fault of Orbx for not trying and I will still use my games pass to use a limited Flight sim on the console Now - where can I get my Hands on an X box series X Good luck getting an XBox X took me over 4/5 months to get my son one. Also got him a Samsung 32” 4K Monitor to go with it. Don’t give up because MSFS looks sensational on the XBox X (performance is a dream). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdkramer Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) My understanding was if you bought an Orbx product from the microsoft in game store you will be able to use it for free when it becomes available. If you bought from Orbx central on PC it will not show up on XBOX because they are separate stores. The question is if Orbx will provide a purchase code to reacquire it through the in game store? chris Edited August 6, 2021 by chrisdkramer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I feel maybe a discount but not free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.K Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 But I have already bought my Aiports for England for the Xplane 11. Some USA airfields also etc. Now the second time in the obrx central for the MSFS. Should I really pay her a third time? Kind regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Hello, the announcement does seem to state the intentions quite clearly. On the subject of paying for things many times over and this is just an observation: Anyone who bought FSX when it came out and then progressively bought each newer version, FSX-SE, P3D v1, v2, v3, v4 and v5 will be well accustomed to buying the same thing many times. Of course, each version is a development of the last and that is what is paid for. In this case, the clearly stated intention is that if the version is the same there would be no charge. At that point, no one knew if work was required to make the products compatible with XBox or not and so far, I don't think that has been answered. I realise that it is unrealistic to ask you not to speculate but I am certain that as soon as there is a definite answer to this question, Orbx will be only too delighted to publish and then implement it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.K Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Nick, thank you for your statement. Kind regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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