BCobby Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I've been looking forward to this scenery of my home town. Apart from 2 Aircraft liveries, this scenery is the only alteration I've made to MSFS2020. After Installing the new Orbx Sydney City scenery I start up and get within a few miles of the CBD and get a CTD. This crash to desk top has not occurred until installing the new scenery. Anyone got any clues?? i7-10700K 32GB Ram GeForce RTX2070 Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Schnibben Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Does this happen repeatedly and only occurs with CS Sydney? If yes, did you let Orbx Central install it into the main MSFS directory or on a separate drive? Your specs are fine, I think we can rule that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red eagle Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 The same problem here! I have a CTD after 1 minute flying. After deinstalling, reinstalling, deactivating AI-traffic, using an empty community-folder (only Sydney), changing the plane, starting the flight at the airport and over the opera house I have the same disaster. Without Orbx Sydney everything works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Schnibben Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hm, that didn't happen during the beta tests under various conditions. CS Sydney has a pretty low VRAM load actually. Checking this. CTDs can happen for several reasons of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCobby Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hi Frank I let Orbx Central install to main msfs directory, and follwed the suggested installation procedure. I just have the one drive, so no chance of it going anywhere it shouldn't. (1tb Nve me). Dissapointing as I'm so pumped about this scenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 And you definitely didn't install the freeware Sydney cityscape someone put out couple of weeks ago? IF so maybe there are some remnant files that are causing conflicts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red eagle Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I used an community folder only with Orbx sydney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Schnibben Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Perhaps this could help in your case as well (deinstalling, deleting rolling cache, reinstalling in the MSFS folder): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCobby Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Ok will give that a go. So confirming deinstall Orbx SC and delete rolling cache in MSFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Schnibben Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 11:17 PM, BCobby said: So confirming deinstall Orbx SC and delete rolling cache in MSFS? Correct. If this still doesn't work try increasing the size of your rolling cache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCobby Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Thanks heaps Frank, this fixed the issue! Thanks for your time and dedication, I'm loving it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red eagle Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Success here too!! Now I need a helicopter to explore the city and refresh my memories. Thank you so much for your extraordinary help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MclF1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Thank you to all it works and is very nice .will there be any updates as i live in Hurstville area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner76 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 still no luck for me.. Tried all the suggestions that have posted yet Orbx Sydney just will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Gordon Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Unfortunatly I have the same problem. Always I have a CTD at Sydney. That's so sad, becouse I bought the new fantastic YSSD from FlyTampa, but can't fly with Orbx Sydney switched on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Bernd Gordon said: Unfortunatly I have the same problem. Always I have a CTD at Sydney. That's so sad, becouse I bought the new fantastic YSSD from FlyTampa, but can't fly with Orbx Sydney switched on. This may or may not be relevant, but MSFS seems to be particularly sensitive to some third party addons, even something as benign as an addon aircraft mod, or a distant airport. The best way to find out if it is something is to hunt down every addon (scenery, sircraft and repaints, any enhancenent mods etc) and move them away from MSFS (Nick has posted various ways to do this) and ensure you have a vanilla copy of MSFS, with rolling cache deleted, and confirm the default Sydney works. Then install Sydney Cityscape and test. If you still have a CTD it might be time to run a repair or reset on MSFS. If MSFS is in a true vanilla state and Sydney Cityscape is installed into a default location there's nothing in the scenery to cause a CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner76 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have both Sydney scenery and Sydney airport addons and neither work. Always fails to load the flight with a CTD. Even if I fly in from a different location outside of SYdney and head towards Sydney it will CTD. Even after a complete MSFS reinstall and every other suggestion others have made including low, medium or high graphic settings, online or offline, delete cache etc etc etc bla bla bla nothing helps. This is quite ridiculous why this happens!?!? How can this possibly be!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Does this happen if you create a new Community folder, rename your existing Community folder to Community.BAK or .X and place the Sydney Cityscape and airport addons in the new folder? Have you Verified Files using Orbx Central? Have you got a Backup copy which may be corrupt( see the attached pic for the location of any backups you may have and also check if that option to make Backups is enabled) Delete your Content.xml and let MSFS write a new one. Path to the Content.xmlis in Packages/FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe/LocalCache/Content It sounds like there is a conflict of addons so isolating all other addons will assist in determining the issues cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomAce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I solved a CTD problem with EGNT yesterday by doing this: 1. I uninstalled the language pack in Windows 10 (English, USA) and reinstalled it. When I installed the language pack I noticed that I could click on "Alternatives" (in norwegian). In english Windows 10 it may be "Options"? Here I could install "Handwriting", "Speech" and "Language pack". It may be that I never noticed this the last time I installed the language pack in Windows 10. 2. In Windows 10 I opened "Settings" and "Apps". Found XBOX app in the list and clicked one time on it. Then clicked on "Advanced alternatives" and clicked on "Close", and then "Repair" and also "Reset. Restarted PC and then started the Simulator. Hope my suggestions can help you. Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner76 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Thanks TomAce and Jon Clarke for your suggestions. Put simply I cannot get either of the two Orbx Sydney or Kingsford Smith airport sceneries to work either taking off from the airport for approaching the airport from another location. I have tried everything that has been posted in forums. Rolling Cache, no rolling cache, air traffic, no air traffic, deleted content.xml, custom install folder and msfs folder, verify files, delete backups, new community folder, high detail, low detail, fresh msfs install, fresh win10 install, new hardware, overclocked and not overclocked, ms & xbox accounts log out log in, reset repair etc, plus what ever other suggested solutions I have not mentioned here.. So I have given up and just uninstalled them and feel defeated. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hello, before you gave up, was the airport above or below the cityscape in the Content.xml file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I’ve been having the same issues with the cityscape and airport I think it’s due to my ram because when I approach the airport I look on task manager and I see 15.5gb of ram is used out of 16gb which I think is why it crashes because it eventually runs out of ram. Do you guys also have 16gb of ram or do you guys have more I would like to know cause Iam thinking of upgrading to 32gb of ram to see if that fixes the ctd issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hello, welcome to the forums. When it runs out of physical RAM, Windows should just move on to the Paging File, unless it has been disabled by the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hi thanks for the help but so my ram isnt the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 You will need to check that your Paging file is active and large enough, Windows will manage it. As you can see in my signature, I took the opportunity to increase to 32GB but I am of the opinion that MSFS uses the largest percentage if what is available to it and I would guess that 16 GB is enough. How much is on your graphics card and how much of that is left when you try to load at Sydney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 its active and it has 5800 mb of pagefile and it uses 11gb of ram on approach and at Sydney and iam not sure about how much vram it uses but iam guessing 6gb vram is enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 this is my stuff when running msfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Toadmcninja said: this is my stuff when running msfs i have now landed into sydney without crash but i did uninstall flytampa sydney and gpu memory usage was 5.8/6.0 gb on approach and memory was again at 15.5 gb of 16gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 good news guys i think ive fixed it i just put the Orbx city sydney below the airport and it seemed to fix itself ill do more testing to be 100% sure its fixed tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmcninja Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I think the load order in content manager was definetly the problem thanks nick On 1/30/2021 at 11:48 AM, spanner76 said: Thanks TomAce and Jon Clarke for your suggestions. Put simply I cannot get either of the two Orbx Sydney or Kingsford Smith airport sceneries to work either taking off from the airport for approaching the airport from another location. I have tried everything that has been posted in forums. Rolling Cache, no rolling cache, air traffic, no air traffic, deleted content.xml, custom install folder and msfs folder, verify files, delete backups, new community folder, high detail, low detail, fresh msfs install, fresh win10 install, new hardware, overclocked and not overclocked, ms & xbox accounts log out log in, reset repair etc, plus what ever other suggested solutions I have not mentioned here.. So I have given up and just uninstalled them and feel defeated. oh well. Try moving the Sydney city Orbx under the flytampa Sydney airport in the content manager this fixed the ctd issues for me it will possibly fix for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner76 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 8:06 PM, Nick Cooper said: Hello, before you gave up, was the airport above or below the cityscape in the Content.xml file? Hey Nick, the airport is listed above the cityscape in the Content.xml file. Which is the preferred location? Also I have 32gb ram.. I just noticed that I do not have a page file set for Windows 10. I have since enabled the paging file. I have no idea why this was set to off!? will test it now. I am still not confident that this will fix the issue but my fingers are definitely crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Hello, the answer is in the post just above yours. Quote Try moving the Sydney city Orbx under the flytampa Sydney airport in the content manager this fixed the ctd issues for me it will possibly fix for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hophead Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Hi Everyone I am experiencing the CTD issue with FS2020 and the Orbx Sydney Cityscape package. Note the following information and things I have tried and have not resolved the issue: 1) This is the only addon package I have installed and FS2020 is running fine without the Cityscape package. Without the Cityscape package installed I can fly around Sydney and other major cities for hours with no stability issues. 2)I tried deleting the rolling cache and increased cache size (from 8GB to 16GB) 3) I have re-installed FS2020 4) I have rebuilt my whole PC, reinstalled Windows 10, installed the latest drivers for GPU, chipset, NIC etc, reinstalled FS2020 (again) 5) PC Specs: Ryzen 5 5600x, 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz RAM, Nvidia RTX 3070 GPU. Nothing overclocked. FS2020 is installed on a WD Blue M.2 NVME SSD with plenty of free space. 6) Crash info from Event Viewer: Faulting application name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x5fda32ba Faulting module name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x5fda32ba Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x0000000001e0fd8b Faulting process id: 0x1d24 Faulting application start time: 0x01d7037d09dae418 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.12.13.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.12.13.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Report Id: 5786e478-611b-4873-b275-18d0ee95b2a4 Faulting package full name: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.12.13.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe Faulting package-relative application ID: App Would love to know if there is anything else I can try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Hello, there is a problem, introduced last Thursday, that affects all addon airports and scenery products that include a .cgl photo insert, as does this one. The problem is identified and affects all addon airports and scenery by any developer that include one or more of these files. Is is the result of something having been changed in Bing Data and over which no addon developer has control. Renaming the .cgl file to .cgX will provide a temporary fix until the problem is rectified by Asobo. In this case, the file is Community\orbx-cityscape-sydney\CGL\311\sai230.cgl As this file is a photo insert, the Sydney ground that it covers might look a little different but you will be able to use the product. We must wait for Asobo to make more changes so that this no longer happens. There is a very long topic on the FS forum on the subject.https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/bing-data-causing-crashes-with-add-on-airports-or-scenery/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hophead Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Thank you Nick, I will give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 i have the same problem tried all solutions still no luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ozzman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Has this problem been fixed with the latest World 3 update? I had a CTD recently when flying around the Sydney CBD. I have both Sydney Cityscape and FlyTampa YSSY installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Try it. I know that EGLC was also a CTD victim but I see it now works after the World Update. I will test my copy shortly plus the FlyTampa Sydney airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 The answer is yes to both. I believe the CDT problems relating to Bing Data are now resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ozzman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Excellent news Jon.Thanks for reporting back.Much Appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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