Maikel van der Heijden Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 16 hours ago, mopperle said: Yes of course, doesnt matter. And you are not forced to migrate. That's good news, what do you mean with migrate? Move to the .xml method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopperle Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:58 AM, Maikel van der Heijden said: That's good news, what do you mean with migrate? Move to the .xml method? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maikel van der Heijden Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 10 hours ago, mopperle said: Exactly Sorry to ask all these questions, but I want to make sure I do not make a mess of my Sim. On page 19 is says: ''The first time you start Central, you will be prompted to create a library.'' and further on on the page ''If you have installed an Orbx product into Prepar3D v4, X-Plane 11 or Aerofly FS 2 using FTX Central 3, you will have the opportunity to migrate this product into a Central library.'' I want to keep my libary as I have now and only want update to Central V4, can I update Central V3 to V4 without the Central program interfering with my current Libary order as I have now with my own addon manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopperle Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 You can create the library for the installation of new products, but you must not migrate products installed under FTXCentral to the new library. But for the moment and if you do not want to change anything, do not install Orbx Central and stay with FTXCentralv3 untill all issues are sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcongram Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 WOW.....Thank goodness I checked this forum. I did a FIRST TIME install of Prepar3d V4, and my 'scenery' files within P3d are chaotic (same as everyone else) I tried to manually adjust the (Windows 10) scenery.cfg in appdata - but it shows default P3d settings and i can NOT find any other 'scenery.cfg' file So......as ORBX seem to be working on a fix ... I will wait BUT..... BUT ......BUT Where is the 'working' / 'operational' scenery.cfg ? (P3d & ORBx are on a separate drive from Windows 10) I have full 'administrative ' rights Also, Seattle default runway is below ground level again (used to be button "migration") Is there a way to fix that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcongram Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This topic has been marked '"Resolved"....... Why ? Has there been a fix or new version of ORBX Central ? My scenery.cfg file is 'chaotic'. It's the same as the other users - Orbx files in the wrong places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hello, I have marked it as Active again. All products added to P3D v4 using the xml method do not appear in the scenery.cfg file. Instead, they appear in the add-ons.cfg file and can be viewed in the in-game add-ons menu where they can be switched on and off and in the in-game scenery library, where they cannot be managed at all. An external program such as the Lorby utility must be used if a custom order is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guenseli Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: An external program such as the Lorby utility must be used if a custom order is required. Seriously? This should be done by ORBX Central during installation. Or is that a recommended workaround now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 No of course not. However, the question was asked in post 45 and as I am sure you know perfectly well, many other developers' products use the same method and can only be moved about in the same way. Snide remarks made in response to genuine attempts to answer genuine questions are not in the least helpful to either the support staff or the customer asking the question. I am always ready to learn new things, so if you know of a way to re-arrange xml scenery library entries in-game without third party software and in the same way that scenery.cfg entries can be easily moved up and down, please share it with me and your fellow customers. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsaghaa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I don't know if it's a sneaky remark, but the other scenes managed by Addon XML are mostly aerodromes. Yours are often regions or even countries. And if you want to add third scenes, the scheduling is much less manageable with this method. Besides, what is the purpose of the insertion point with scenes managed in XML Addon? Nick you do your job to defend this development and you do it well but frankly from my point of view (I think I have the right to have one) this "Orbx Central " is anything but not a progress for your customers. And my remark is not meant to be sneaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Thank you. I think you make a good point that actually highlights that this is probably another first for Orbx. In the light of that and the Herculean efforts to fix the problems, I think it is really quite appropriate to defend it on my side and also to allow the developers some latitude on the side of the customers. Not to mention some time to actually do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 For what it's worth I installed and migrated.....got a missing file message for EU ENG when I ran it. I validated files for England I ran again and I had white, almost snow like scenery at ORBX Goodwood and in FTX EU England plus mesh was all over the place. Floating houses, me etc. I came out out P3D and ran Vector tool. Came back in. Opened scenery library and exited allowing it to rebuild and (touch wood) everything seems to be ok at the moment. I have tested Boweman, PA North West, FTX EU Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas B Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, I have marked it as Active again. All products added to P3D v4 using the xml method do not appear in the scenery.cfg file. Instead, they appear in the add-ons.cfg file and can be viewed in the in-game add-ons menu where they can be switched on and off and in the in-game scenery library, where they cannot be managed at all. An external program such as the Lorby utility must be used if a custom order is required. Hold your horses... You should not use Lorbys Addon Organizer with with Orbx Central 4 https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/558118-using-p4ao-with-new-orbx-centre-v4/ Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcongram Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Thanks Thomas B: A LOT of customers have spent a LOT of hard earned $$$$ with ORBX, and expect it to work as advertised (especially after all the hype and hooplah) Thank goodness for 3rd party developers....... it appears to get ORBX advertised results, we do need to rely on 3rd party solutions. This isn't the first or even the second time this sort of thing has happened. I still have to manually fix Lupien airport in Oak Harbor, WA (even after they said "will be fixed in the next release"....years ago) Sorry to vent Thomas B, but it's the 'same old - same old' . (and I've spent a LOT of my money and only received frustration and empty promises from ORBX) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 spoke too soon....noticed I had odd water textures at PAVD so did the verify files and now I have mesh issues again . No amount of vector tool, clearing scenery cache will work Sorry guys, thought I might have found a way to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Thomas B said: Hold your horses... You should not use Lorbys Addon Organizer with with Orbx Central 4 https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/558118-using-p4ao-with-new-orbx-centre-v4/ Thomas No, however, it might be necessary if you wish to arrange other scenery around the Orbx scenery. I have no idea at all how end users who want to make custom scenery libraries in P3D with products installed using the xml add-ons method were expected to go about this by Lockheed Martin. I must assume that it simply did not enter into their plans at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBarrett Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: No, however, it might be necessary if you wish to arrange other scenery around the Orbx scenery. I have no idea at all how end users who want to make custom scenery libraries in P3D with products installed using the xml add-ons method were expected to go about this by Lockheed Martin. I must assume that it simply did not enter into their plans at all. The Lorby Scenery Organizer (or equivalent) is absolutely necessary for those who use certain 3rd-party packages. For instance, I subscribe to FSAerodata, and the four scenery entries it creates for navaids and approaches must be at the very top of the scenery library, at priorities 1 through 4. It will not work properly if it is not placed this way. FTX Central 3.0, (and the new 4.0), both move the FSAerodata entries down to the middle of the library. Just opening and closing Central is enough to cause that to happen. It is always necessary to use the Lorby organizer afterward to move those FSAerodata entries back to the top where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Fixed my elevation issue by reinstalling. In Orbx Central I have set the insertion point to below my third party scenery but it seems to be injecting the order in a very odd way...not copied all of it but you can see from below what I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfy124 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 7:22 PM, Nick Cooper said: Hello, the development team are in Australia, where it was 2320 when this topic was posted and where it is now 0320. I am sure that they will see this as soon as they next start work. Is it confirmed now that this issue is been looked at? Trying to change the insertion points hoping all will be sorted in order always ended up in some ORBX regions sitting well below my insertion point but some ORBX regions still at top of library where I don't want to have them for obvious reasons (e.g. NZNI NZSI and AUv2 always reside on top but not with the other regions). Regards Ralf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Williamson Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 3:32 PM, ralfy124 said: Is it confirmed now that this issue is been looked at? Trying to change the insertion points hoping all will be sorted in order always ended up in some ORBX regions sitting well below my insertion point but some ORBX regions still at top of library where I don't want to have them for obvious reasons (e.g. NZNI NZSI and AUv2 always reside on top but not with the other regions). Regards Ralf On 8/15/2019 at 2:17 AM, dcongram said: This topic has been marked '"Resolved"....... Why ? Has there been a fix or new version of ORBX Central ? My scenery.cfg file is 'chaotic'. It's the same as the other users - Orbx files in the wrong places. If you are encountering issues with layering, please create a new topic with the details about what is being misplaced. We'll be able to troubleshoot this easier with one-on-one discussions rather than combining it all into this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcongram Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Thank you Mitchell Williamson........Developer at ORBX. I did open a NEW topic. Have you read my new topic ? It asks why the new release of Central puts all the files at the TOP of scenery.cfg but now CRASHES my P3d v4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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