hwh86 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just off shore, abeam runway 17/35 at Lihue, I have discovered the scenery glitch shown below. This is with Global 1.3, Vector 1.15 and the AEC disabled. Reinstating the AEC makes it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I can only report what I see in FSX, perhaps you would like to check your file structure also. With the FTX Freeware PHLI installed and AEC disabled in the Vector 1.15 control panel, a search of the ORBX folder for PHLI reveals these files in this state. and it looks like this You might also search your root folder for PHLI, in case you have anything else installed but I think what you are seeing may be the default airport background elevation, which should be excluded by the file(s) above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwh86 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Nick, I could only find three files. I could not replicate your screenshot after re-installing PHLI from Pack 6. The files in my ORBX folder are FTXG_PHLI.BGL FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl PHLI_objects.bgl I don't know where the inactive files or the PHLI_default.bgl are. I'll keep searching. This is a bit of a job because I am not too familiar with the file structure. I am a pilot, not a computer whizz. Thanks for your help anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The four files you can't find are all in the ORBX\FTX_VECTOR\FTX_VECTOR_APT\scenery folder and should have appeared as a result of your search of the ORBX folder. Do you have airport elevation problems elsewhere as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just off shore, abeam runway 17/35 at Lihue, I have discovered the scenery glitch shown below. This is with Global 1.3, Vector 1.15 and the AEC disabled. Reinstating the AEC makes it even worse. I can only report what I see in FSX, perhaps you would like to check your file structure also. With the FTX Freeware PHLI installed and AEC disabled in the Vector 1.15 control panel, a search of the ORBX folder for PHLI reveals these files in this state. and it looks like this You might also search your root folder for PHLI, in case you have anything else installed but I think what you are seeing may be the default airport background elevation, which should be excluded by the file(s) above. Dear Nick and hwh, I have to report I have the same sea elevation issues. And I have all files existing in the state reported by Nick. Stefan Schäfer suspected it might be an interference with any other add-on I might have (though there is none for Hawaii, and -as far as I am aware- only RTMM and OZx freeware, and not much else). I´d be habby if you find the trick...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't think I can add anything, I have nothing that isn't FTX active when I test for this type of error. It does seem to work properly, as in my screen shot shot and I could only offer the same advice as Stefan Schäfer. Try a search of all your scenery for PHLI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just checked my install (FSX) and noted the elevated water issue shown in the OP screen shots. Checked the Pack 6 list and do not see any reference in the airport list to disable PHLI although it was in the disabled list of my VECTOR Config panel, probably put there when the Autoconfig was run. Does not make any difference with the elevated water area enabled or disabled with FSX / Global 1.3 / VECTOR 1.15. When Pack 6 was installed the anomaly was not present and this was prior to Global 1.3 release. That, of course should not have any effect on the water elevations. Searching my entire C:\ drive results in the same 7 files being present and nothing else. <img src="http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/10/05/DVzH.jpg" border="0" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I have tried very hard to replicate this error and I cannot. Enabling AEC moves the runways into a pit, as expected and disabling Vector simply spoils the coastline, again as expected. I have even tried the default airfield and a third party addon, neither made any material difference. However, although I cannot see why it should have any effect on airport elevation, I do not have Global 1.3 installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwh86 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 I have checked and checked again and have found exactly what you have in your file structure Nick. It does not interfere with my flying in and out of Lihue so, just leave it, may be some day someone will find the solution. Thanks for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexbo47 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I have the same anomaly. Wondering if anyone has found a fix for this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lincoln Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hello fellow contributors, Although I am not seeing this issue I will send it through to the Dev Team for a resolution, as I can not replicate the elevation anomaly. Thanks Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexbo47 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thanks, Richard! I had the same issue in FSX and resolved it but I cannot for the life of me remember how. I'm running a clean install of P3D 2.4 and he newest version of Vector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Hi! I might not be able to provide the solution, but from what I see, there is an airport boundary polygon of a misplaced airport that is in the water (instead of being on land). This might either be an FSX default airport or an add-on airport - I don't have this issue on my computer, so it most likely has to do with an add-on. Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Hi! I might not be able to provide the solution, but from what I see, there is an airport boundary polygon of a misplaced airport that is in the water (instead of being on land). This might either be an FSX default airport or an add-on airport - I don't have this issue on my computer, so it most likely has to do with an add-on. Bernd Sounds good and logic. The only thing is: i do not have any add-on for Hawaii . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 This is a problem with the airport exclusion polygon wich has been drawn to big for the airport you see there, the exclusion polygon is usually set to the airport altitude ( you can see the water at the same level as the ground from the airport ), the only way to solve this is if you have FSX SDK and ADE and draw a new polygon that stays on land and save that as an addon airport. I don't have a problem at PHLI but I have installed the freeware airport pack for Hawai wich has PHLI also and maybe could help you to? Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If I'm not mistaken the problem started with the installation of Pack 6 which has PHLI in the download. I have confirmed this is a problem with the Global Airport Pack 6 by disabling PHLI files in Pack 6 and in addition manually re-inabling PHLI in the VECTOR Configuator and then loading PHLI in the sim. All the water elevation issues are gone. But, the airport is sitting in a slight 'bowl'. I then disabled PHLI with the VECTOR Configuator and the airport sits at the correct elevation and the water is correct without elevation issues. If your experiencing the water elevation issue I recommend you disable the two PHLI files ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI.BGL Located in the ....FSX/ORBX/FTX_GLOBAL/FTX_FTXG_AIRPORTS/Scenery folder. There is no need to enable the PHLI airport in the VECTOR Configuator which the Autoconfig tool should have disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Upon further investigation I have discovered that you only have to disable one of the PHLI files: ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl and the water elevation issue disappears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexbo47 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thank you Spud! ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Upon further investigation I have discovered that you only have to disable one of the PHLI files: ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl and the water elevation issue disappears. Will check ASAP, and thanks for any suggestion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuisong Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 That is good to know. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 To all the involved... I have checked and checked again and have found exactly what you have in your file structure Nick. It does not interfere with my flying in and out of Lihue so, just leave it, may be some day someone will find the solution. Thanks for trying. Hello fellow contributors, Although I am not seeing this issue I will send it through to the Dev Team for a resolution, as I can not replicate the elevation anomaly. Thanks Richard Hi! I might not be able to provide the solution, but from what I see, there is an airport boundary polygon of a misplaced airport that is in the water (instead of being on land). This might either be an FSX default airport or an add-on airport - I don't have this issue on my computer, so it most likely has to do with an add-on. Bernd ... plus especially to Spud: Upon further investigation I have discovered that you only have to disable one of the PHLI files: ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl and the water elevation issue disappears. Hi Spud, you made it: This is the hint which works, finally! It made my water step disappear: After that, I had to enable AEC for PHLI again, as this minimizes the landside elevation mismatches for the major part of this airport (easy to understand that one step in the NW corner of the airport remains - that is FSXs desire to have flat airports). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hi! Great to hear that your issue is resolved . Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwh86 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Hi! Great to hear that your issue is resolved . Bernd I am sorry Bernd and everybody else but my problem still exists after disabling ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl. Furthermore, after running the auto config for AEC, there are no ICAO codes in the "AEC is disabled for" box. Is that a malfunction of the FTX Vector Configuration Tool version 1.20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireRx Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 thanks guys, that one airport fix off my list. I'll try it on the other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Furthermore, after running the auto config for AEC, there are no ICAO codes in the "AEC is disabled for" box. Is that a malfunction of the FTX Vector Configuration Tool version 1.20? At least this sounds reasonable: I would assume that after running the autoconfig all entries are moved back to enabled. You would have to start disabling again, in my understanding. But the main issue with the water elevation is still weird. There still seems to be one file interfering with your Airport exclusion polygon. Maybe you deactivate the 2nd file from Spud´s suggestion (#16 above) also, the ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI.BGL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDLinn Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That worked for me. Only problem I had, the runway was buried. Went back to the FSX Global configurator and "enabled" the PHLI (that was on the right hand disabled list). Now it looks great. Thank you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaab Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hello, I faced this same problem, after loading the "FTX Global Freeware Airports NA Packs 1 to 20" . To fix it I had to disable both files and run Vector Configurator because the runway was partially covered by earth. On my configuration, I still see a (ugly) earth strip between the airport area and the surrounding. Results may depend on other Global Products installed ? Is there an update planned for PHLI ? I am just asking, - I know it's freeware, By the way, a BIGGGG thanks to Spud for his solution. Cheers - Gérard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If I'm not mistaken the problem started with the installation of Pack 6 which has PHLI in the download. I have confirmed this is a problem with the Global Airport Pack 6 by disabling PHLI files in Pack 6 and in addition manually re-inabling PHLI in the VECTOR Configuator and then loading PHLI in the sim. All the water elevation issues are gone. But, the airport is sitting in a slight 'bowl'. I then disabled PHLI with the VECTOR Configuator and the airport sits at the correct elevation and the water is correct without elevation issues. If your experiencing the water elevation issue I recommend you disable the two PHLI files ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI.BGL Located in the ....FSX/ORBX/FTX_GLOBAL/FTX_FTXG_AIRPORTS/Scenery folder. There is no need to enable the PHLI airport in the VECTOR Configuator which the Autoconfig tool should have disabled. This fixes the water problem but parts of the airport go missing , parking lots and heli pads run off into the bush, just disabling ADE_FTX_FTXG_PHLI_CVX.bgl leaves parts off the airport missing as well. This airport still needs a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kconlon Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 If I am using FSDT's PHLI how would disable the ORBX scenery for this individual airport? Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I was just wondering if there is a complete fix for the added freeware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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