Vonduck Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Hi guys, I am keen to get the ful monty ORBX world when it arrives and as i understand it, it does not include a world elevation mesh... therefore, what should i be investing in to get ready for this release? And also to use now obviously! Thanks folks for any help! Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 there are several mesh files out there, FSGlobal springs to mind as the most elaborate one afaik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonduck Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 Danke Wolter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddler Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Look at FSGenisis http://www.fsgenesis.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capnsully Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Good question and already good answers, I'll definitely follow this closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfliss Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Look at FSGenisis http://www.fsgenesis...mvc?Screen=SFNT. +1 Great quality and usually discounts; plus you can pick and choose your preferred area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the Swede in Spain Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Just beware of one thing. The mesh for the Scandinavian countries (that is north of Germany) are of very poor quality due to bad data. The freeware made for theese countries are in fact better than the commercial ones. So for the moment, do not buy the meshes for the Scandinavian countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoil3 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Actually the FS Genesis files for Scandinavia have just been done with all new data. So that is no longer true. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansRoaming Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I use FSGenesis, in fact ended up buying the lot, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibidut Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 From Denmark:: I will wait..and see. Henrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennH Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 FS genesis has always been the number one for mesh. always good sales on and Justin has been providing mesh for many years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosariomanzo Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 FSGenesis all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 do we need this FSGenesis as well as the future Orbx world scenery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 As for me, I use FS Global 2010 but intend to replace it by FS Global Ultimate. It looks bigger than FS Genesis but sharper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I've still got my FSGenesis global FS2004 mesh on CDs somewhere, I was happy with it in its day. I'll definitely be getting the FSX package when FSX Global comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Richard, I'd suggest some investigation before buying FS Global Ultimate. Several add-on Airports are sitting on plateaus when it's activated. This is caused by the fact that these add-on Airports are usually based on default FSX elevations while FS Global Ultimate provides essentially refined elevation data (that's what it's made for). As far as I read this issue is less pronounced, if present at all, in FS Global 2010. FS Globlal provies a tool (it's on one of the DVDs) for correcting these issues on a per airport base, but I got tired of having to correct any other airport after landing there. - I doubt ftx global will change anything on this fact as it's a pure texture/autogen package not including any elevation data. Kind regards, Michael (sorry for the poor formatting, my Enter key still doesn't work for this Forum.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the Swede in Spain Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Actually the FS Genesis files for Scandinavia have just been done with all new data. So that is no longer true. Sue Unfortunately it is still true, bought the package and got very disappointed! In my opinion not worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Several add-on Airports are sitting on plateaus when it's activated. This is caused by the fact that these add-on Airports are usually based on default FSX elevations while FS Global Ultimate provides essentially refined elevation data (that's what it's made for). As far as I read this issue is less pronounced, if present at all, in FS Global 2010Hi Michael, Yes indeed, that point is mentionned in the PDF provided by FSG2010 but I don't experience myself that trouble with FTX scenes such as SAK or ENG. Very strange oo it maybe depend on which airport you often use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Richard, I recall having had this issue myself around Aerosoft Megaairport Madrid and several Airports in Southern Germany (VFR Germany/German Airfields based like ). I am not an expert in this field, but as far as I know FTX sceneries are based on Holger Sandman's Holger Mesh which I'd expect is at least as detailed as FS Global Ultimate. FSX/Prepar3D just selects the higher resolution mesh (independent of placement in the scenery library, btw.) thus I'd expect all or nearly all ORBX area sceneries (including imbedded payware airports) not to clash with FS Global Ultimate. Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennH Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Hi Michael, Yes indeed, that point is mentionned in the PDF provided by FSG2010 but I don't experience myself that trouble with FTX scenes such as SAK or ENG. Very strange oo it maybe depend on which airport you often use... Thats because FTX region packs come with their own mesh files. FTX Global will not include mesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Richard, I'd suggest some investigation before buying FS Global Ultimate. Several add-on Airports are sitting on plateaus when it's activated. This is caused by the fact that these add-on Airports are usually based on default FSX elevations while FS Global Ultimate provides essentially refined elevation data (that's what it's made for). As far as I read this issue is less pronounced, if present at all, in FS Global 2010. FS Globlal provies a tool (it's on one of the DVDs) for correcting these issues on a per airport base, but I got tired of having to correct any other airport after landing there. - I doubt ftx global will change anything on this fact as it's a pure texture/autogen package not including any elevation data. Kind regards, Michael (sorry for the poor formatting, my Enter key still doesn't work for this Forum.) Hi Michael, Yes indeed, that point is mentionned in the PDF provided by FSG2010 but I don't experience myself that trouble with FTX scenes such as SAK or ENG. Very strange oo it maybe depend on which airport you often use... Richard, I recall having had this issue myself around Aerosoft Megaairport Madrid and several Airports in Southern Germany (VFR Germany/German Airfields based like ). I am not an expert in this field, but as far as I know FTX sceneries are based on Holger Sandman's Holger Mesh which I'd expect is at least as detailed as FS Global Ultimate. FSX/Prepar3D just selects the higher resolution mesh (independent of placement in the scenery library, btw.) thus I'd expect all or nearly all ORBX area sceneries (including imbedded payware airports) not to clash with FS Global Ultimate. Kind regards, Michael Thats because FTX region packs come with their own mesh files. FTX Global will not include mesh. A very interseting Thread here! Wrong airport elevations are my main concern in regards to enhanced meshes, besides accurate local-area-mehes (as provided by ORBX for instance). I have FS Global 2010 at home and also FS Global Ultimate - and with FS Ultimate i think the situation is even worse than with Global 2010, because FS Ultimate uses even more detailed data and if something is wrong it is even more significant then. I have been fiddling around with the included tool (AFM) to correct wrong airport elevation if needed, but then the moment occured when i was asking myself: Do i again really want to fiddle around with FSX/P3D and spend a huge amount of time with it or shouldn't i better go flying instead? Well: I finally ended up uninstalling all the FS Global meshes and simple went flying over ORBX lands and other dedicated 3rd party sceneries, which provede good local meshes and adequate airport elevation. The support at FS Global was also rather bad i think, which is sad somehow as it could really be a great product if it would be continuously updated in regards to correct airport elevation for instance. Generally spoken i sure wished these issues could be solved, because: A proper mesh significantly improves the overall appearance of the sim in a most positive way! But then again: It looks quite strange quickly when an airport is suddenly "hanging around" something like 200 feet above its surround area or so. I have not tried out FS Genesis yet though, so i cannot really say anything about it here. Anyways: At the end of the day its again (as so often within FSX) up to everyone's personal preferences i think, because: If a proper mesh is wanted, then there sure is a way to work around wrong airport elevation data! Cheers, Christoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Thats because FTX region packs come with their own mesh files. FTX Global will not include mesh. That means FTX mesh is higher than FS Global So let's wait and see when FTX Global comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 That means FTX mesh is higher than FS Global So let's wait and see when FTX Global comes Hello Richard! Not necessarily always higher than FS Global but definitely very, very detailed, convincingly close to reality and very, very satisfying. Nonetheless: Fact is, that there won't be a Global mesh for FTX Global. The great ORBX meshes are always and exclusively included to the highly detailed scenery-add-ons from ORBX such as SAK, PNW and so on only! They do not cover the entire Globe! Maybe one day there will be some ORBX-Global-Mesh for purchase available too, which would be fantastic - but so far this has not been announced or mentioned anywhere! Therefore some alternatives may be still needed if wanted: Hence it's again up to either FS Global, FS Genesis or freeware meshes to cover those areas which are not remodelled by ORBX in high detail such as PNW, SAK and so on. Cheers, Christoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hello Richard! Not necessarily always higher than FS Global but definitely very, very detailed, convincingly close to reality and very, very satisfying. Nonetheless: Fact is, that there won't be a Global mesh for FTX Global. The great ORBX meshes are always and exclusively included to the highly detailed scenery-add-ons from ORBX such as SAK, PNW and so on only! They do not cover the entire Globe! Maybe one day there will be some ORBX-Global-Mesh for purchase available too, which would be fantastic - but so far this has not been announced or mentioned anywhere! Therefore some alternatives may be still needed if wanted: Hence it's again up to either FS Global, FS Genesis or freeware meshes to cover those areas which are not remodelled by ORBX in high detail such as PNW, SAK and so on. Cheers, Christoph Thanx a lot for these infos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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