Jordan hogan Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Credit where credit is due GBS looks stunning and performance is alot better FPS wise than i though it was going to be considering how good it looks. Unfortunately, for me it took P3D memory usage sky high. i have 16GB of ram and i was using 15.8GB after loading in to EGKK with UK2000, Active sky, and FSLabs A319. Loading into EGKK with same things without GBS 7.4GB.... With 15.8GB of RAM usage before even doing a flight i dont think it gunna stand much chance doing a flight as when i went to outside view the system ran out of memory. Didnt see any specs regarding system specs, so just a warning to anyone who is looking to run GBS. Thanks Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfirth Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Good job I went for 32Gb when I upgraded last year then :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan hogan Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, kevinfirth said: Good job I went for 32Gb when I upgraded last year then good upgrade that 30 odd quid down the drain for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hello, please don't give up so easily. Gatwick is one of the many airports and airfields close to London. The TEGB version of London is highly detailed and of course uses a larg amount of resources. Despite the view of our press, there is a great deal of Great Britain that does not revolve around London and you should be able to load and fly elsewhere without running short of PC hardware resources. P3D itself uses much more RAM since version 4.4 and its new ability to load and display photoscenery properly for the first time. Try unticking "Use high resolution terrain textures", this should let you use the product, even at Gatwick. This is mine at Gatwick with that box unticked and a lower scenery density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hi Also, unchecking/deactivating the four England Region scenery library entries seems to free up another 4gb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hello Doug. Maybe, mine is with just TEGB and the libraries but no compromise in the P3D settings. It is, as ever, a trade off between what one would like to do and what can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hi Nick I had England activated with TEGB and it was consuming 15.8gb and 10.8gb of vmem at EGLC. Since deactivating England, I am using 11.5gb ram and 7gb vmem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Yes, me too. I am hoping that Jordan will give this a try and succeed in using the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Several posts split from this topic to https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/167954-trueearth-gbs-p3dv4-resource-usage/ Please do not hijack it. If you are having a problem please start a new topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Good morning, I played in mind to deactivate/deinstall FTX England and Wales too. For the lack between FTX Scotland and TEGBS openLC Europe could work as substitute. But I'm not sure dectivating them because during installation of TEGBS both of them were active and I don't know if some files of them will be used for a proper TEGBS. If somebody could confirm that I don't need both older FTX regions underneath I would put them away. Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hello, TEGB is a stand alone product and does not require any other product to be installed to work as intended, apart from the Orbx libraries of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfirth Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Well I'd just like to chime in and say after a successful install, you guys deserve a pat on the back. There's a few things I could offer suggestions on to make it better, but over a quick cornwall flight with absolutely maximum P3D 4.4 settings I was getting between 35-90 fps and it looked and felt beautiful. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Thank you Nick, I'll try it. If I deinstall Wales via FTXC I don't know what will happen to Cardiff? It is a part of FTX Wales. Is it a part of TEGBS too or will it be wise to back it up before uninstalling? Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hello. There is no need to uninstall Wales or anything else. Just untick Wales in the scenery library and leave EGFF active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Okay. Just for saving 3,6GB; but I think, these are peanuts compared with TE! Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan hogan Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 Thanks everyone for the tips will play around more when i get home. But over a doubling of ram usage is crazy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Hi Also, unchecking/deactivating the four England Region scenery library entries seems to free up another 4gb. Hi Doug, could you name those four entires please? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hello Jack. They each start with FTX_EU_ENG and are all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc_Z Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 What does deactivating those regions do it you fly out of TEGBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 They are not there. The plan of course is to have a complete TEGB. In the meantime, it makes sense if you have them to leave them in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sawyer Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello Jack. They each start with FTX_EU_ENG and are all together. Thanks Nick, I really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfirth Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: They are not there. The plan of course is to have a complete TEGB. In the meantime, it makes sense if you have them to leave them in place. Whats the ETA on the next installment Nick? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Low Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 All of South done and dusted already, Kevin? Wow, that 2080Ti must be super fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfirth Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: All of South done and dusted already, Kevin? Wow, that 2080Ti must be super fast! Lol of course not Chris, I'm actually having a blast with this now. Testing this (and other undisclosed) sceneries together I'm finding different variations of settings that are giving me a much smoother experience. For example, I always used to run with either the internal frame limiter at unlimited, and vsync on, or with frames limited to 30fps. I tried using vsync on with frames limited to 50, at 50Hz on my display, and it coped with it exceptionally well. To run at 4k, with no blurries or autogen loss (experienced so far!) at 50fps, with the GPU at 60% is BEAUTIFUL. Now I accept that is without AI, and not in a complex aircraft particularly, so compromises will need to be made for different types of flying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I have 16 of RAM and I never saw anything over 8??? CPU is the one working hard in my case Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan hogan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 @Nick Cooper What is actually put into memory? If i load P3D in GBS area RAM shoots up to 90% usage. If i then use Process Lasso to trim the memory its drop massively and then only climbs back up to about 70% and everything seams to work fine? Is there something that is being put into RAM that doesnt need to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjibbotson Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 9:02 PM, Jordan hogan said: @Nick Cooper What is actually put into memory? If i load P3D in GBS area RAM shoots up to 90% usage. If i then use Process Lasso to trim the memory its drop massively and then only climbs back up to about 70% and everything seams to work fine? Is there something that is being put into RAM that doesnt need to be? Jordan you wouldn't have happened to have manually added TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10 to your config file? Reason Im asking is mine was always set at 9 but the other day I changed it to 10 to get the highest quality textures. Load times in True Earth Netherlands were huge on an SSD (Im aware they are a lot longer anyhow), my system ran out of memory very quickly. I have 16 GB but the sim crashed out with the memory warning when its process reached just over 9 GB, there was still a few GB available according to the Tast Manager. I knew Texture_Size_EXP affects VRAM usage but didnt know it also has a major impact on system ram. Chris Ibbotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan hogan Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, cjibbotson said: Jordan you wouldn't have happened to have manually added TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10 to your config file? Reason Im asking is mine was always set at 9 but the other day I changed it to 10 to get the highest quality textures. Load times in True Earth Netherlands were huge on an SSD (Im aware they are a lot longer anyhow), my system ran out of memory very quickly. I have 16 GB but the sim crashed out with the memory warning when its process reached just over 9 GB, there was still a few GB available according to the Tast Manager. I knew Texture_Size_EXP affects VRAM usage but didnt know it also has a major impact on system ram. Chris Ibbotson No mate. Dont touch my config anymore. Never really saw any benefit. but thanks for this anyway Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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