Chunk Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just started noticing that when I taxi from the ramp to the taxiway, the lights/signage on the taxiway disappear. I apologize if this has been asked and answered already, as I searched for a solid hour looking for the same issue. Here are the before and after shots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Hello, I have tried hard to replicate this on your behalf but the lights and signs refuse to disappear, in P3D v4 though, you don't seem to indicate which simulator you are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Sorry about that Nick, it is P3D v4.4. I can replicate this with any aircraft. I’ll try a reinstall and see if that fixes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 The reinstall did not fix it. I’ve tried it from different parking spots, but the above screenshots are when leaving from parking spot #16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Nick, will someone else have a look at this, or will it just stay active/unresolved unless someone else reports it? I'm not asking for an immediate fix, just wondering how the support process works. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Hello, do these objects disappear and stay gone or do they reappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Thanks for the reply Nick. They stay disappeared. It requires a restart of P3D to get them back. I’ve tried just restating the scenario, but that doesn’t do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Thanks. I once didn't see them after loading in winter but when I changed the season to spring, they came back. I don't know why this should have happened and why it does not happen every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 I’ll give it a try in a different season. Thanks for looking at this for me Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Nope, they disappear in the summertime as well. As soon as I leave the ramp and get to the taxiway, poof, they're gone. David Copperfield is really driving me crazy with this. It's not the end of the world, but I would like to eventually have a fix. Thanks again Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Do you use any camera/view related add-ons? I only ask as at some airports we make them as large single models which have a single reference point, and if this goes out of view it can make the object disappear (it should also reappear once the point comes back into view) , I've not experienced any of these issues myself (but also don't use any camera add-ons) , but recall it being an issue a few years ago with FSX when people were tweaking the FSX.cfg a little too much, something to do with view-angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 I do have chaseplane installed, but no custom camera views yet. Additionally, the objects never come back into view. This happens whether I’m in internal or external view as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticker7 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Hi Chunk, not sure if have tried these things but if you have just ignore them. 1 Reinstall the ORBX lib files 2. uninstall and reinstall KJAC. in the past when I've had similar problems one of these things seems to fix it, it's worth a shot just in case, also in case it doesn't see if you have any other libraries that may conflict from other sceneries installed. Hope you get it sorted mate ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 I tried those already, no joy. Thanks for checking thought, it is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Do the missing items reappear once you change the Scenery Complexity setting? Up or down, it doesn't matter, just change it from whatever the setting was when you started the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Banks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Chunk - is this with a fresh/new P3dv4.4 or an upgraded 4.3? Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Scenery complexity settings are maxed, but I can try lowering them. It’s a client update to 4.4, Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Please start the sim and once at KJAC, change the scenery complexity setting while the sim is running. It doesn’t matter if you go up or down, just change that one setting while in the sim and see if the missing scenery returns. This may be an issue with P3D which was identified during the beta process. For this test, you must change the scenery complexity setting while in the sim at your location. Changing it before you load the scenery will not work if this is the previously identified issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Banks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Chunk said: It’s a client update to 4.4, Adam. Thought so! Me too :-(( Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 hours ago, Graham Eccleston said: Please start the sim and once at KJAC, change the scenery complexity setting while the sim is running. It doesn’t matter if you go up or down, just change that one setting while in the sim and see if the missing scenery returns. This may be an issue with P3D which was identified during the beta process. For this test, you must change the scenery complexity setting while in the sim at your location. Changing it before you load the scenery will not work if this is the previously identified issue. I’ll try this as soon as I get back to my flightsim PC, Graham. 4 hours ago, Adam Banks said: Thought so! Me too :-(( Adam. Are you having similar issues Adam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 The missing scenery does indeed return Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Chunk said: The missing scenery does indeed return Graham. Many thanks Chunk. That confirms that the issue is indeed a problem with P3D V4.4 which was identified during the V4.4 beta process. All is fine for those who did a complete install of V4.4 but the problem still exists for those who went the client/content/scenery update route. We have advised Lockheed Martin the problem still exists for some and we await a response from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 Sounds good. Thanks for figuring this out Graham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Interesting issue I hope it gets solves for you soon Chunk Happy 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_R Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Hi Guys, Interesting that this problem from the 4.4 betas has returned. During the testing, LM's eventual fix worked for me with just a client update, but that client was from the full installer. I did not experience the issue with the release version after both a client only update and subsequently a clean install. Chuck, when you did the client update, did you download the client only? If that's the case, if you have time you might try uninstalling the 4.4 client, then downloading the full installer and installing the client only from that set of files. The problem was said to be related to a 'race' between threads. A timing issue related to the addition of new stuff to one thread or another. Nothing that can be fixed on this end. I would guess that if you look around you will find a number of instances of objects missing, or objects that appear only under certain conditions but it's very hit or miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Banks Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I downloaded the full archive and used the client update from the extracted [full] archive. I have the same problem and am tempted to reinstall a clean copy of P3D, but it's probably quite handy to have a few people like myself with "problematic" 4.3->4.4 upgrades to help test the fix. Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_R Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, Adam Banks said: but it's probably quite handy to have a few people like myself with "problematic" 4.3->4.4 upgrades to help test the fix. Right Adam, good thought. Somewhere along the line of the many 4.4 betas I had done a clean install. So my client update fix was not from 4.3 to the 4.4 beta with the fix. It was from an earlier beta. So based on your experience, that would suggest that contributing factors are files not part of the client. Whether or not LM could come up with a solution that would only involve a client update remains to be seen. A hotfix I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Banks Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Larry_R said: So based on your experience, that would suggest that contributing factors are files not part of the client. I installed all three module updates (Client/Content/Scenery) so the pertinent files can't have been in the other two modules either. Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 It’s an interesting issue for sure. It’s not a deal breaker, so I’ll just leave it as is for now. P3D is running too welll right now to tempt the flight simulation gods. Thanks again for everyone’s contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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