mikegust Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It makes me wonder. We are spending lots of time on improving cute little houses, where actual aviation aids, of which windsocks are essential are not functioning properly I have published about that a few months ago and I've seen other posts on the same subject, but every library update I hope for this to be resolved, and - NOTHING. please look at the picture and test it , it happens in many locations that sock is showing opposite direction of the actual wind the picture shows fsx with default weather at KMSO and default windsock is showing correct direction. please fix itTHmike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It can't be corrected via library updates but if you note the airports with misaligned windsocks they can be corrected in a regional service pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 what ever it takes, let's fix it It happens to me in many locations in small and big airports, flickering and wrongly directing windsocks, am I the only one experiencing that? It never happens to default windsock (??) mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 FWIW if the wind sock is placed with Instant Scenery it must be placed with a heading of north. If not then the direction will be inaccurate for the wind direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 I insist that we stay focused. I am not making new airports and putting FTX windsocks in it I want all this windsocks in my FTX products functioning correctly . I am not talking of me going in and changing it. I thing FTX needs to correct this on the global scale in all of the products and all the areas that they have published. I own lots of areas of the world that you can see on the list and in all these areas windsocks are working incorrectly.mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Hi Mike, All we need are ICAO's of airports where the sock is not functioning properly and it can be addressed in service packs for regions. Regards, Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Hi Mike, would you kindly refrain from posting with a large font, in forum etiquette it is considered as shouting, hence I have edited your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Alex I have encountered this problem in many many locations here are two prominent; at KMSO sock is showing opposite direction, KSEA often it vibrates and shivers. flips around. I also noticed that when Active Sky is running and wind changes FTX socks seem to stay without shifting around so maybe you guys need to consult with the Active Sky guys since many people are using Weather software. That is the best I can do I really don't have the time to make the full research of locations it could also be that I am the only one having this problem and it is connected to my system Hi Mike, would you kindly refrain from posting with a large font, in forum etiquette it is considered as shouting, hence I have edited your post Volter pleas set up the forum to work only with one font I have bed vision and made font bigger to see better - sorry mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 in the brand-new release of global airports (19) I just checked out 2 in Southern California and windsocks are non-functioning. they don't respond to the wind direction at all. they are at KCMA & KTOA mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 I just flew between those two airports again (KCMA & KTOA) on the Vatsim with ASN and seems windsocks are showing opposite direction to what it is mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 I feel a little uncomfortable. Am I the only one noticing that? Or maybe it's my system. Please community, let me know, since FTX people are busy doing something else. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I have checked on my system and the windsocks do as they should. However, I do not use Vatsim or ASN, so that may not be of any value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TymK Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 A similar issue (windsocks pointing in the opposite direction) has recently surfaced with the new version of KHQM, and I know Tim Harris is looking into it. There's also a problem with windsocks not working in Prepar3D v2. While the two issues are not related (the P3D issue is entirely Lockheed Martin's fault as they removed some backward compatibility), it is likely that Orbx will need to come up with an entirely new solution that works on both platforms. I'm trying to be patient, but I do agree with you that working windsocks are rather more important than a lot of the "eye candy" features. Tim and Alex have been very helpful in explaining the difficulties, but I'd also like to get some reassurance that this area is being taken seriously and worked on... Tym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 I always thought that FTX is catering to low and slow type of flyers, that translates to two crucial aviation navigation aids that are not functioning properly that is windsocks and airport beacons how can it be that these essential aviation instruments are not being repaired and properly functioning you would think that we would start with highly functioning an excellent instrumentation and navigation aids first, and then we will put flowers, horses and dogs in the scenery mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Hill Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hi Folks, I just went and checked the windsocks at KMSO and they are indeed installed incorrectly. We will correct this at the next update. There are definite rules for installing our windsock and when correctly installed they will show both direction and windspeed. Cheers, Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeguy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I find most of the windsocks are incorrect where I have visited mainly NRM and PNW. Practically all I would say. Using P3D 2.3. I thought it was a P3D issue? I use shift z to get the wind, cheater! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Harrell Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It'll get fixed in the next release. I found the problem. Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Hill Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hi Folks, Try this objects file at KMSO. It should replace the file of the same name at: ORBX/FTX_NA/FTX_NA_NRM05_SCENERY/Scenery. The file will need to be unzipped. I've corrected the windsocks so they will accurately give wind direction. I also changed to the solid orange typical of U.S. windsocks. Cheers, Neil FTX_NRM_objects_KMSO_PLC.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 It'll get fixed in the next release. I found the problem. Todd Great news TH Todd mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 I am so excited about the fix for Winsock problem since I'm constantly coming up on airports with conflicting Winsock situation. Here is another example at PAYA. I hope the fix is coming soon Happy landings mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinghighhorn Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 You're not the only one... All my windsocks have stopped functioning correctly in NCA, TVL, o88, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuisong Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I feel a little uncomfortable. Am I the only one noticing that? Or maybe it's my system. Please community, let me know, since FTX people are busy doing something else. mike No, you are not alone Mike. And I think you are making very valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 It'll get fixed in the next release. I found the problem. Todd Orbxlibs 141207 are out ; "Changes: New autogen descriptions New StaticFlow Norway objects Updated region control files for cross compatibility" nothing about windsocks Todd (?) AK66 It is quite funny to see the smoke from the cabin pointing in a correct direction of the wind and the sock in opposite. Keeping the subject fresh, till it is fixed. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Windsock fixes won't come with library updates, it has to be done through patches for the regions or airports. If the model is rotated 180 degrees, all of the airports that were correct will now be incorrect, so changes are done to the model placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medtner Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I have the problem with windsocks in all my P3D regions as well. This is quite serious, and I'm sure Orbx are working on it together with LM to get this solved. It's such an immensely important thing for preparation for takeoff and landing to check the wind. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 None of our windsocks work in Prepar3D at the moment, except for custom ObjectFlow socks at payware airports. A solution for replacing windsocks with native Prepar3D models around regions is high priority and we are communicating with Lockheed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medtner Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 None of our windsocks work in Prepar3D at the moment, except for custom ObjectFlow socks at payware airports. A solution for replacing windsocks with native Prepar3D models around regions is high priority and we are communicating with Lockheed about it. Good to hear! ) I feel a little naughty when taking off without having a working windsock. I get the same feeling when I take off without doing a runup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegust Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Windsock fixes won't come with library updates, it has to be done through patches for the regions or airports. If the model is rotated 180 degrees, all of the airports that were correct will now be incorrect, so changes are done to the model placement. "all of the airports that were correct" (?) Alex Reading your post logically, it suggests that some people were already aware of the problem in the past. That seems to be almost impossible, that such a crucial problem has been overlooked. I'm finding literally dozens of locations that windsock is not working properly. How can that not be a priority of all ? In real life it is used all the time on short final you have to look at the windsock because conditions can change quite quickly. I find myself constantly making a mistake of relying on the windsock in ORBX -FSX world, overfly looking at the windsock and deciding on my runway on non-controlled fields, without weather station that is the only way to do it in the simulator since there are no other possible indicators, except some smokes. Default windsock works perfectly fine, and can be relied on. I still cannot quite believe that this is not put in front of all other projects and this is not a problem for all the pilots.(?) How can anybody land safely on uncontrolled field without relying on windsock ? It needs to be repaired soon as major priority. I do realize that majority of digital flyers are flying very high and coming to big airports, where this issue is not a factor since the controller is giving up-to-date information, but in my understanding ORBX is creating very detail visual world, very much suit it for small general aviation operations. For those who fly at 30,000 feet all the roads and bridges and other visual navigation aids are not important, so it suggests that ORBX is thinking off the VFR flyer, and for that reason I really think we need to fix it and fix it soon happy landings (down wind AAAAAA) mike Another example - KAVL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What I meant is that if we correct the problem through the libraries, by editing the model and rotating it 180 degrees, that will apply to every single airport across every region and some payware airports. Not every airport has a reversed windsock, but if we correct the socks in the library then all of those airports will now be wrong which doesn't do much to resolve the issue since there will still be a significant portion of airports with reversed socks. I've logged a note in the back end for this issue to be revisited. Solutions are being explored to efficiently patch airports, unfortunately it is an enormous task. If each airport is to be checked for a reversed windsock that means there are 2500 to sift through and correct. So if each airport takes 5 minutes to look through (low estimate) we're looking at roughly a month in paid man-hours. The current idea is to wait until the new version of FTX Central is released at which point we can release small patches and individual airports can be patched as they are noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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