Iain Emms Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Well then chaps fired the sim up before I got the graphic card message pop up twice and shut down I've only had this once before. Not only that a new one for me a message popped up twice saying I'm not connected to the Internet despite being connected and certain things will not work so I've given up simming for today and will see what tomorrow brings after nearly an hour of start stops its enough. cheers Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renault Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Iain Emms said: Well then chaps fired the sim up before I got the graphic card message pop up twice and shut down I've only had this once before. Not only that a new one for me a message popped up twice saying I'm not connected to the Internet despite being connected and certain things will not work so I've given up simming for today and will see what tomorrow brings after nearly an hour of start stops its enough. cheers Iain Hi Iain Yes, it is a bit of a dog's breakfast at the moment. I just checked on my system and I have the wonderful red message saying you are not connected. This is a link to a useful MS site regarding the whole gaming environment Xbox Status | Xbox Support Anymore, most days I check it first before I start up MS2020. It doesn't solve the frustration of the system being down, but at least you didn't wait to go through the entire MS2020 startup routine just to be told you're not connected. With regard to the graphic card message this may shed some light on it. Apologies as it is really deep down in the weeds of GPU behaviour. From Nvidia docs..... P-States are GPU active/executing performance capability and power consumption states. P-States ranges from P0 to P15, with P0 being the highest performance/power state, and P15 being the lowest performance/power state. Each P-State, if available, maps to a performance level. Not all P-States are available on a given system. The definitions of each P-State are currently as follows: P0/P1 - Maximum 3D performance P2/P3 - Balanced 3D performance-power P8 - Basic HD video playback P10 - DVD playback P12 - Minimum idle power consumption The latest Nvidia driver 525.86 has a release note item concerning a bug fix " GPU may get stuck in P0 state after exiting certain games " I'm very far from having any in-depth understanding of such things, but my limited understanding is that what may be happening is when you exit from MS2020 the GPU gets stuck in the Maximum 3D performance state. When you start up again, the "P or Power State" is supposed to be on Auto and will select an appropriate level, even if you have specified maximum performance e.g. it is dependent on what you are doing on your system. I have this driver on my system, and it really is working well for me. Performance in DX12 is really nice and smooth and DX11 is just super. Just a speculative thought so take this with the proverbial grain of salt that this may be the cause of the problem and the fix for it. Hope this may be of some help. Cheers Pete Edited November 12, 2022 by renault 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasordod Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Hi Iain, The "not connected to the internet message" popped up for me yesterday some 70% through the process - I believe it's just due to overloaded servers. I tried again late evening hoping European demand had slowed and the update restarted where it left off and finished within the hour. Anyway, good luck with yours. Charles Edited November 12, 2022 by chasordod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Thank you chaps i hope they get this all sorted out as it is spoiling what is a great flightsim. cheers Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mac Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Updated mid morning today and restarted PC. Loading screen nearly loaded and then CTD. Restarted PC again and then it started ok. However airports were missing on the world map. Gave up and used XP11 for my flying for today. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renault Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 @Iain Emms Hi Iain Since I can't sim , along with the rest of the world I thought it might be more helpful to put together a few screenshots to go with the "techie jargon". This is just a snapshot of my desktop. For whatever reason, my P State is always at a P8 , even though GPU usage is 0% I did notice that this seems to be unique to Win 11 as it was a lower setting with Win 10. The P state doesn't refer to a power draw per cie , but is more related to the GPU & memory clocks (frequencies that your GPU runs at), fan speeds etc to give a particular performance capability. In the Nvidia Control Panel, I specify Maximum Performance capability for the GPU when MS2020 starts. I do this as I found that I would get significant stutters if the setting was left at Normal or adaptive as the card was "ramping" its performance settings up and down as usage varied in MS2020. As soon as MS2020 starts up, the Power state switches to P0 which is the Prefer Maximum 3D performance state ... Although it has switched, the GPU usage is still 0% And lastly, this screenshot shows MS2020 running and rendering in 3D. GPU usage is 33% When you exit and return to the desktop for a few seconds the P state stays at P0 and then switches to P5 and finally to P8 which for me is its idle performance state. Hope this helps a bit. Now off to read a book for the rest of the day Cheers Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boetie Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I downloaded the latest Nvidia driver this morning and everything is hunky dory- smooth as silk (touch wood) G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Morning chaps just opened MSFS and got a 821Mb update includes various bug fixes so let's see what happens. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John York Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Good luck with this Iain. Nice to see that you're still about and still suffering the vagaries of flight simming. I stopped flying a long time ago now but like to see how everybody is getting on. Sll the very best to you. John 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Thank you John it's nice to see you still popping up here. cheers Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boetie Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Let us know how you go Emmsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just updated my nvidea driver as well. Will have a flight soon and let you know what happens. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 hope it's worked for you, I know there was an issue with internet dropouts during update, I think they were just overloaded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulk Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Iain Emms said: Just updated my nvidea driver as well. Will have a flight soon and let you know what happens. cheers Iain Which version are you on now please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, paulk said: Which version are you on now please ? Paul its the 526.86 driver. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Well then chaps I've been doing a small flight and closing MSFS then doing another small flight and closing MSFS most of the afternoon and not had a problem so it maybe the new driver has helped I might be speaking too soon we shall see tomorrow if the stupidness returns. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulk Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Iain Emms said: Paul its the 526.86 driver. cheers Iain Thanks I have no issues on 526.47 but may as well update to 526.86 to match the MSFS download. Thanks glad all ok for you now. Edited November 13, 2022 by paulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mac Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Strange Iain as I ran MSFS this afternoon but it didn’t offer any update! John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, John Mac said: Strange Iain as I ran MSFS this afternoon but it didn’t offer any update! John. Yes John I worked that one out before I deleted the A310 and the 821Mb update was MSFS putting it back. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mac Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Thanks for clarifying that Iain! John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulskpt2 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Last week, I thought it was on Nov 10, after starting MSFS2020, it reported that it had an update, so I clicked to start the download. I thought it was the 40th anniversary update. Later I learned it wasn't. All went OK. Yesterday I fired-up MSFS2020. I saw that the Market Place box was grayed out. A text said that Market Place was temporarily unavailable. I never had this error b4. I googled. Then I did the steps advised like signing out from MS Store. Reboot and login again. This did not solve the problem for my system. Since some time I run first the XBox app on the desktop PC and start MSFS2020 from there to avoid problems. Then I discovered in the XBox app that there was the 40th Anniversary update. I installed it. Then MSFS2020 ran OK. I tried to take-off with the DC-3 however the airplaine stalled over left all the time. I read an advise on internet how to take-off properly. Then with this new knowledge I managed to take-off but had problems to climb and ultimately crashed. So, I went to fly with an airplane I master. Edited November 18, 2022 by paulskpt2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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