Martie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hi, After the last update the loading time is extremely long 30 minuts and after that when flying the ground textures are loading very slow this was not a problem whit the previous version . So ORBX team can you set the old version back because there are many people have problems whit the update and there is almost no responce from the ORBX team to solve this problem. Martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hello, you should be able to load the scenery in five minutes or so. Can you try disabling all your other addon scenery in the scenery library, or make a new scenery.cfg file with only the Orbx libraries and TENL in it and of course all the default areas. Also rename Prepar3D.cfg so that P3D will build a new and default copy. Then try again and see how long it takes. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvdboomen Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I can confirm slow loading ground textures. The new update demands more from the system so it seems. Lowering the fps count from 30 to 20 stopped the blurry textures. That poor rendering engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hello, if you have all the options ticked in the TE Netherlands control panel it will extend the loading time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hi Nick, It is not a option to disable all other addon scenery's because the will not load anymore and they are useless and I have a lot them I do not understand why ORBX made a update whit this problems because the previus version works fine and I am not the only person that have a problem with the update see the forum,so I like to now how can i go back to the previus version. Martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The idea was not to disable all your scenery permanently but as a test. You should be able to load this product in 5 minutes. As you apparently cannot load it in 30 minutes, I had intended to help you find out why and if possible, solve your problem. However, I cannot help if help is disregarded. The previous version is not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbergsma Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hiya, Yesterday I've update TE NL to version 1.10 and since then flying has been a nightmare ! loading times went up with a factor 8 { approx 1 min before and now it stays stuck @ 6% for about 6 minutes. when flying I only get blurry and blurry textures above the netherlands where all was very crisp before.... dunno what you've done but it cetainly messed up my simming. My Hardware: I9 9900K MSI Z390 motherboard NVIdia Geforce RTX 2070 1 TB Nvme SSD Samsung Evo Pro 970 P3D v 4.4 Display: Samsung 4k TV @30hz Vsync on for now I've uninstalled True Earth Netherlands...... Regards, Marinus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hi Nick, I followed your advise and now the loading time is whitin 5 minuts so what to do now. Regards martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 What else do you have installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Well the list is to long to mention but for the Netherlands I have Fly tampa amsterdam Samsoft scenery amsterdam and a lot of dutch airports from the nl2000 scenery for the rest of europe a lot of aerosoft airports and other developers. For now I disabled TrueEarth Netherlands en every thing is ok now also my frame rates are increased. For your info I disabled fly tampa/samsoft and the nl2000 airport to see if there is a conflict with TE Neterlands but this make no sence. Regards martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbergsma Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 For me: I did a clean install of W10 P3D 4.4 and ORBX Global Europe LC an TE NL only other addons installed were FT Amsterdam and Active Sky weather Hope this helps, Marinus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvdboomen Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Mbergsma said: For me: I did a clean install of W10 P3D 4.4 and ORBX Global Europe LC an TE NL only other addons installed were FT Amsterdam and Active Sky weather Hope this helps, Marinus Did this solve the problems with the blurry textures Marinus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbergsma Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, bvdboomen said: Did this solve the problems with the blurry textures Marinus? Unfortunately it didn't.... I'll continue without TE NL untill a solution is found Marinus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niedermayer Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Dear Nick, I have exactly the same problems. Loading times went up by about a factor of 5 and the waiting time at the well known 6% is enormous. Version 1.0 had long, but acceptable loading times. So what is the point in adding green houses and light houses at the expense of usability ? How can I downgrade to version 1.0 ? I would really like to use this great scenery again. Thanks for your help Christof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 11:43 AM, Nick Cooper said: Hello, you should be able to load the scenery in five minutes or so. Can you try disabling all your other addon scenery in the scenery library, or make a new scenery.cfg file with only the Orbx libraries and TENL in it and of course all the default areas. Also rename Prepar3D.cfg so that P3D will build a new and default copy. Then try again and see how long it takes. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM149 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hi ... disppointed performance with TE NL 1.10 From scratch P3D4.4- run delete generated files- rebuild the sim > 35 secs then loading to scenario screen EGLIN 1:51 -continue loading to EHEH 15:07 (!) disabling TE NL > loading to scenario screen EGLIN 1:11 then loading to default P3D4 + EHEH 2:42 P3D4.4 - run delete generated files- rebuild 35 secs; loading 1:20 to scenario screen; adding scenery NL2000-EHEH loading 2:20 Running Global- oLC-Vector active Running all Regions disabled Running all Airports excl EU disabled https://flightsimeindhoven.com/prepar3d/delete-generated-files/ For the this moment I restored initial version TE NL Please let me know when to see improvement in loading time and under which conditions. Thanks for payimg attention. JanV | KLM149 | -flightsimeindhoven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737fpeter Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hi, I would just like to use TrueEarth Netherlands. I don't want to get any "tricks" for a normal time load. If this is not possible otherwise, get an alternative to return to version 1.0 Anyone who still insists on version 1.10 would like to have a good “trial” on it… However, it should be thoughtful why and why this update caused… So, thank you for writing more if you could get back to version 1.0. Thanks and sure more ...! Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hello, it occurs to me that as the main additions in version 1.10 are greenhouses and lighthouses, you could use the control panel to disable greenhouses and lighthouses. In this way, you should have version 1.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP Rao Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 5:01 PM, Martie said: Hi, After the last update the loading time is extremely long 30 minuts and after that when flying the ground textures are loading very slow this was not a problem whit the previous version . So ORBX team can you set the old version back because there are many people have problems whit the update and there is almost no responce from the ORBX team to solve this problem. Martie. 18 minutes ago, fosopeter said: Hi, I would just like to use TrueEarth Netherlands. I don't want to get any "tricks" for a normal time load. If this is not possible otherwise, get an alternative to return to version 1.0 Anyone who still insists on version 1.10 would like to have a good “trial” on it… However, it should be thoughtful why and why this update caused… So, thank you for writing more if you could get back to version 1.0. Thanks and sure more ...! Peter Me too, I was good at old version of TENL, after update scenery is blurry and only airport autogen works. My TITAN X 12GB graphic card was helpless to generate scenery and CTD. Regards, ASP Rao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 No one interested in even trying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 5:14 PM, Martie said: Well the list is to long to mention but for the Netherlands I have Fly tampa amsterdam Samsoft scenery amsterdam and a lot of dutch airports from the nl2000 scenery for the rest of europe a lot of aerosoft airports and other developers. For now I disabled TrueEarth Netherlands en every thing is ok now also my frame rates are increased. For your info I disabled fly tampa/samsoft and the nl2000 airport to see if there is a conflict with TE Neterlands but this make no sence. Regards martie. Hello Martie Isn't Samsoft Amsterdam city? I think your sim is struggling to load both products. You have a duplication. If you have TEN then Samsoft is useless. You're having two cities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: No one interested in even trying? Hi Nick I'm testing mine I currently have only Orbx products in Europe (maybe I'll install FT Schiphol in time as it is really boring to go through the compatibility process) So my test will be clean. I'll revert with results Regards, Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hi Nick I launched my sim at 10.58, and it stuck at 6% for 22 minutes. Finally loaded at 11:29 (31 minutes after) No issues during flight, the plane flies smoothly, no delay in loading textures, no freezing when changing outside views and all looks great. I believe my load time is affected by my settings and my poor video card. So can't complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niedermayer Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Dear Nick, disabling Lighthouses and "grenhouse " (I guess this should read greenhouse) reduces the loading time a bit, but does by far not recover the 1.0 status. I used my task manager and monitored my computers parameters. Something is loading very slowly bit by bit into the memory with the CPU working only at 15 % on my system (Intel i7-7700K at 4.2 GHz, GTX 970 4GB, 1TB SSD 970 Evo, 16GB Ram). After the long 6% wait loading times are fine. I guess you overdid it with the VFR landmarks. Maybe you are testing already with version 4.5 of P3D, which is supposed to solve the terrain loading issue according to this forum. Christof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 If you also disable "Shed model", I am informed that you will have almost removed all the major changes. Perhaps try that. We do not know at present why some customers are having this problem and why others do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM149 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hi Nick loading issues can be "solved"by unchecking the (agn) files in the control panel of TE. From the scenario screen and changing from default airport EGLIN to EHEH S1 takes 1:36 Tks JanV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hi Nick, It is for me very clear that there is a problem whit the update because when I disable TrueEarth Netherlands in the library everything works fine why is it not possible to go back to the previous version because now it is useless and still it is payware. Regards martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hi Carlos, No it Isn't Samsoft Amsterdam city because this was disabled in the library but whit the previous version there was no problem. Martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Martie said: Hi Nick, It is for me very clear that there is a problem whit the update because when I disable TrueEarth Netherlands in the library everything works fine why is it not possible to go back to the previous version because now it is useless and still it is payware.Regards martie. I cannot force you to try solutions but only suggest that you start by disabling all the features in the control panel and then put each block back until you see which one is causing the problem. It should be clear that if you disable a whole part of your simulator, what remains will work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald787 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Unfortunately I can confirm this issue. Was running version 1 without any problems and startup time was about 3 or4 min. Now after updating the startup time was raised to about 15 min and when flying the ground scenery is blurred 2 or 3 minutes after takeoff. Nothing changed on my setup, only update applied. Will try to disable the Shed model, Green/Lighthouses and see if it fixes things. Greetings Harald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hi Nick, You do not force to try your solutions because I dit that already if you read my previous post you Will see that I followed your instructions but there was no response and I dit not disable a hole part of my simulator only TEN and when I disable all and put each block back I have 145 addon scenery’s so I need to start the simulator everytime again that takes me 24 hours to do so please come whit a solution or the previous version because I am not the only person that have this problem. This is not personal but I expected from ORBX to solve this problem because the previous verson works fine there was no conflict with my other scenery’s. martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hello, perhaps you can send me your scenery.cfg file and I will disable them for you. The other way to improve performance is to untick some of the items in the control panel that is provided for that very purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP Rao Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 21 hours ago, ASP Rao said: Me too, I was good at old version of TENL, after update scenery is blurry and only airport autogen works. My TITAN X 12GB graphic card was helpless to generate scenery and CTD. Regards, ASP Rao 21 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: No one interested in even trying? I had uninstalled TENL, need to reload again to test it. Being file is very large will try for a convenient time to download and reinstall to test it. Will disable some items in control panel to see the performance before i update the results. Thx. Regards, ASP Rao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hello, uninstalling a product as large as this when it is intended to install it again is a complete waste of your time and bandwidth. Simply unticking it in the scenery library means it has no effect on the simulator and takes a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP Rao Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hi Nick, Thanks for the prompt reply. I was under the impression that TENL is putting too much burden on graphic card and its temperature is touching 86 degrees Celsius. Also my intention was to check the forums first if this problem is with any other members or only with me and finally to have a fresh installation. I have a backup file, pre update version. will reinstall and see the results. Thanks. Regards, ASP Rao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I doubt that you will be able to install your backup. Since there has been the update, FTX Central will download all the new files. This is yet another good reason not to uninstall but instead to disable in the scenery library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hi Nick, I disabled all addon scenery"s in the library only TEN- Global base- trees and ORBX libraries are active than the problem is there very long loading time and slow texture loading and unticking some options to improve performace is not really a option because then you mis some items in your scenery and this was not requierd in the previus version so than update has no added value. The need to send you my scenery cfg.file has no sense because whit no responce I dit not mean that simulator was not responding to disabling of the scenery"but there was no responce from your side to this action. martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 How long does it take to load TENL with only TENL acive in the scenery library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martie Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 I have only TENL and the default scenery"s and also 22 scenery"s wich I cannot disable because thy are protected to disable most flytampa so the only ORBX is TENL then the loading time is 10 minuts also I start flying over Netherlands en everthing seems ok and no texture loading issu"s. martie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Thanks very much. We are doing some research in the background. Please be patient while we do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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