Sensient Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Using the new Installer, I have no Buildings in the entire coverage area. They start to appear again at the boundary of FTX Northern California, I've tried using Global in Hybrid Mode and Northern America as applied groups before starting P3D v3.0 with the same result, regardless of which option I choose. Anybody encountered the same issue? Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hi Mark, Before anything else, did you run the latest Orblibs? If not, please download it from here and install it! Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Mark This is a known issue that some of us suffer from in prepar3D. Open the Scenery Library and move the KRDD entry one notch or two then save and get back in the sim, the buildings will be there. I had that problem in v2 and had it again this morning in v3. There were a couple of threads, some months back, and Jarrad could not replicate the problem on his machine. Don't ask me why moving the entry works but it does ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensient Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, Voyager said: Before anything else, did you run the latest Orblibs? Yes, I have the latest Libs installed but will install the once more. 2 minutes ago, dominique said: There were a couple of threads, some months back, and Jarrad could not replicate the problem on his machine. Thanks for the tip.I know I "fixed" Sedona the same way explained by you in v2 as well. However this thime, I was hoping for a more official solution. But it might do the trick for the time being. Thanks to both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 G'day Mark, let us know how you go with the suggestions offered - this is a very odd one. 27 minutes ago, dominique said: Open the Scenery Library and move the KRDD entry one notch or two then save and get back in the sim, the buildings will be there. I had that problem in v2 and had it again this morning in v3. There were a couple of threads, some months back, and Jarrad could not replicate the problem on his machine. Hi Dominique, One of our testers (thankfully) found he had the same problem as you guys during testing - we were able to fix his issue, I'd be interested to know if it fixed if for you too. Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I think it's also always good cycling between groups in FTX Central 2: eg., selecting FTX Global and applies; then selects the desired group and applies again. This procedure will compel FTX Central 2 to review the settings. See this screenshot below: first, I checked if I was selected North America in FTX Central 2; next, I installed KRDD and then ran the latest Orbxlibs. If something did not run right, I'd do the above procedure. For me always work! Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hi Jarrad First thanks for the conversion, appreciated. When I entered the KRDD for the first time, this morning, there were no building around or mock aircraft, so I used the old trick you taught us and it worked. That maybe my fault because I was in the Global setting when the install took place but I had switched to NA and applied the choice before firing up P3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I will also test this later today and report back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensient Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hey guys I also didn't choose the group North America before installing. Has not been an issue so far since the installers don't state that you should do so and open up FTX Central to apply the change. Reinstalling the Libs didn't do the trick. But by moving the scenery from here: to here: got it working, looking like this: Thanks for the advice guys. @Jarrad: Hope you Devs will be able to narrow in to the cause of this behaviour at some point. When switching between regions or installing new scenery (which will happen a lot in the near future due to all the new P3Dv3 installers being published), I'm sure the order of the scenery will be alphabetical again and issue could reintroduced. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I have tried all of the above and installed the Libraries a second time and still do not have any buildings. Just the ramp and the runway. I do have a couple of static airliners but these may be from the P3D traffic. Please help, this is one of my favorite airports in FSX but do not have anything in P3DV3.1. Thanks, Mike Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 G'day guys, This is very frustrating for all involved (including myself) - there is no tangible reason why this should be happening, and it appears to only be affecting a few users. For those having the problem, could I ask you to try the following test: 1. Go to your ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KRDD\Scenery folder 2. Rename the following files: - Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl to Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl.OFF - Benton_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl to Benton_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl.OFF - 000_Redding_Bridges_Excludes.bgl to 000_Redding_Bridges_Excludes.bgl.OFF Disabling these files will cause other visual anomalies at the airports, this is to be expected. The point of this test though, is to see whether these files are causing your exclusion problems. Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hello Jarrad, That worked for me, the buildings are back at Redding and Benton. Thanks, Mike Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Good one, thanks Mike. Could you re-introduce those three files individually, to see if we can narrow it down further? Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Jarrad Marshall said: G'day guys, This is very frustrating for all involved (including myself) - there is no tangible reason why this should be happening, and it appears to only be affecting a few users. For those having the problem, could I ask you to try the following test: 1. Go to your ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KRDD\Scenery folder 2. Rename the following files: - Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl to Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl.OFF - Benton_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl to Benton_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl.OFF - 000_Redding_Bridges_Excludes.bgl to 000_Redding_Bridges_Excludes.bgl.OFF Disabling these files will cause other visual anomalies at the airports, this is to be expected. The point of this test though, is to see whether these files are causing your exclusion problems. Cheers, Jarrad Hi Jarrad, This is not something that I can replicate at will. It happened twice, out of the blue, in v2 after a couple of months without visiting KRDD and yesterday after installing it into v3.1. Today, it shows all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 12 hours ago, Jarrad Marshall said: Good one, thanks Mike. Could you re-introduce those three files individually, to see if we can narrow it down further? Cheers, Jarrad l will try this tonight and report back. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Jarred, On my system it was the Redding APX Naked CVC file that was causing the problem. So I set that one to off and enabled the other two for now. Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Jarrad, I am having the same issue. I did install with FTX Central set to North America first and then the airport and then the latest libraries. But Here is what I did to get the airports back. I just went to P3Dv3 World Menu - Clicked on Scenery Library and when the scenery library shows up. I just clicked OK only. I did not change anything. And then P3Dv3 started to scan scenery etc and low and behold KRDD shows up. By the way, my sim always starts up in Scenario mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I have to run the scenery building option every time I run the sim and go into KRDD. Something is creating the hang up. Jarrad, can you look at this thread in Prepar3d forums. It is some issue that Chris from nightenvironment discovered and Prepar3d Team did realize that there is a issue related to some bgl processing. I don't know if this will thread will give you some insight or not. I would love to see KRDD to be fixed. It is wow what an amazing airport http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=116596 Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_YVR Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I've been following this thread as well the past few days and have also been having the same issue where KRDD isn't loading. Using GSX to see what the active airport file is as a test and it says it's using the default P3d file even though the library manager shows KRDD as being active it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 On 1/23/2016 at 0:34 PM, Mike62 said: Jarred, On my system it was the Redding APX Naked CVC file that was causing the problem. So I set that one to off and enabled the other two for now. Thanks, Mike Thanks Mike - that's great, narrows it down further. @Airwolf and @Dave_YVR - could you please try disabling the same file as Mike, and see if it this effects your results. 4 hours ago, Airwolf said: I don't know if this will thread will give you some insight or not. I would love to see KRDD to be fixed. It is wow what an amazing airport http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=116596 Thanks Airwolf for the link - I don't believe this is related to the KRDD issue. Our issue here is related to exclude files that don't behave correctly, not the object library files. Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 12 hours ago, Jarrad Marshall said: Thanks Airwolf for the link - I don't believe this is related to the KRDD issue. Our issue here is related to exclude files that don't behave correctly, not the object library files. Thanks for the update Jarrad but I do hope that thread is useful to Orbx team for other reasons b/c a bug for objects was discovered But here is the crazy thing - Once P3Dv3 is started in Scenario mode and I pick up lower VAS consuming plane like a duke vs pmdg. The scenery loads up with the duke but if I choose a pmdg then the scenery loads up flat and then I have to go to Scenery Library manager and click on OK to reload the scenery - then the airport comes (as stated above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Update: Got another observation. Very weird things are happening. Sorry for dominating this thread with observations. I loaded the sim with pmdg 737 on runaway 16 instead of choosing a parking spot during the scenario screen and low and behold all the objects of KRDD showed up at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bron3185 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Hi, I also have this problem. Turning off Redding APX Naked CVC fixed the problem for me but does introduce some anomalies like taxiway signs appearing in the middle of the taxiway. Hope there is a fix for it. Thanks, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 G'day guys, @Airwolf - thanks again for the observations, I'm very interested to know if disabling Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl negates the issue totally for you. @bron3185 - thanks for the feedback, good to know it's the same file causing the issue for at least a few people. As I said earlier in this thread, removing this file is a test, not a fix. I'm away from my development computer (on holidays) until Friday, and will be able to have a further look at this file then. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 15 hours ago, Jarrad Marshall said: G'day guys, @Airwolf - thanks again for the observations, I'm very interested to know if disabling Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl negates the issue totally for you. @bron3185 - thanks for the feedback, good to know it's the same file causing the issue for at least a few people. As I said earlier in this thread, removing this file is a test, not a fix. I'm away from my development computer (on holidays) until Friday, and will be able to have a further look at this file then. Cheers Hey Jarrad, Enjoy your vacation. When you do come back - look at this pic with Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl disabled. Yes, the airport does load up instantly but lot of things are duplicated and not aligned which is given as it is without a CVX file. Here is the screenshot (in 4K) Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thanks Airwolf, that's great. The double-ups are intentional and expected, the purpose of this test is to 100% verify that it is this single file that causes the issue. On 1/22/2016 at 10:42 AM, Jarrad Marshall said: Disabling these files will cause other visual anomalies at the airports, this is to be expected. The point of this test though, is to see whether these files are causing your exclusion problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bron3185 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hi Jarrad, just to confirm a finding from another post, if I load a scenario on the active runway all the buildings appear, I can then re-load at a GA parking spot and everything still appears correctly. Not sure if that helps troubleshoot the cause. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaKevin Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 That also worked for me bron3185. I was able to load a flight on active runway and then move to a parking spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Z Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I realize this topic is marked as answered, but from what I can tell, the answer is "yep, there's something wrong.....". I'm seeing new posts about this problem appear in the forums, so just thought I would comment here as well. Had this problem with KRDD since I bought it at the end of 2014. It's the only ORBX product I have that doesn't work. As it's a beautiful airport, so I hope this issue wasn't forgotten, as I would love to use KRDD on a regular basis again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galeno Garbe Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I bought this airport a few days ago and it NEVER worked! All blank in the airport as everyone reported. No help was provided so far. I'm subscribing this topic to hopefully het some light. Order Number: 494732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoil3 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Define "Never Worked"; that's pretty vague. Didn't install, didn't download, looks funky ? What ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galeno Garbe Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 On 14/06/2016 at 11:17 PM, Penzoil3 said: Define "Never Worked"; that's pretty vague. Didn't install, didn't download, looks funky ? What ? Photoreal is in place but not airport objects at all as related for several people on this topic, so full context are here on this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaBare Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 0:37 AM, Captain Z said: I realize this topic is marked as answered, but from what I can tell, the answer is "yep, there's something wrong.....". I'm seeing new posts about this problem appear in the forums, so just thought I would comment here as well. Had this problem with KRDD since I bought it at the end of 2014. It's the only ORBX product I have that doesn't work. As it's a beautiful airport, so I hope this issue wasn't forgotten, as I would love to use KRDD on a regular basis again. Yes, this topic is marked "answered," but what's being done to get this topic "solved?" The developer confirms an issue with his product and provides a test (but not a fix.) And then nothing further. Caveat emptor, but I was never able to evaluate the product before I bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galeno Garbe Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Scenery just does not work. Refund requested, no answer at all. Very disapointed with support, almost inexistent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaBare Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 On 1/26/2016 at 6:14 AM, Jarrad Marshall said: Thanks Airwolf, that's great. The double-ups are intentional and expected, the purpose of this test is to 100% verify that it is this single file that causes the issue. Jarrad, Has this been fixed yet? Buying KRDD and then using the default AFCAD that comes with Orbx Northern California does not seem a "seamless integration" as the product description at FlightSim Store states. I do admit that loading up P3D at KRDD and finding my plane out in the parking lot was funny at first. But 8 months into the "test" is just embarassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Hello, I have changed it back to Active and sent a reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Hi guys, apologies for the delay in getting back to you all. A request for some testing on some new files for this (neither myself or the team could replicate this issue during Quad testing). If you have experienced this problem, please try the following (if you don't have the issue - please don't try): 1. For P3D v2/v3 only. 2. Go to your ORBX/FTX_NA/FTX_AA_KRDD/scenery folder 3. Rename Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl to Redding_APX_Naked_CVC.bgl.original - this is your backup of the original should you wish to revert back to it. 4. Download and unzip the attached file. Drop the 3 bgl files into ORBX/FTX_NA/FTX_AA_KRDD/scenery. Try this out with a fresh flight at KRDD at report back the results. Make sure to create a new flight, don't load up a saved (previous) flight as this may give false positives. Fingers crossed, but if this doesn't work I have another potential option to try. Let me know how you go. Cheers, Jarrad KRDD_P3D_MissingBuildings.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Z Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I want to thank Nick and Jarrad for not letting this thread "and issue" fade away, and for following up with possible solutions. I have been less active in the forums, and with my Flight Simming, because I've been busy helping with flood issues here in south LA. I look forward to testing the latest fix as soon as I can, and will report back on if it works. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyBS Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hi Jarrad, I have the no building issue at KRDD as above. I rename the file, copied the d/l three files loaded up P3Dv3. New KRDD fresh flight. Still no buildings sorry. Did a quick scenery shuffle - buildings all back. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I will try this too later this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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