Rob Newman Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Hi all... As a frequent visitor to KSTS in real life, in everything from C172, Duchesses and Q400s, I can confirm that Misha has done a superb job here! Of course, as much as I can attest to the accuracy, the proof is in the pudding... So here are a few shots so you can see for yourself. And rest assured that despite the detail you see here, performance is excellent... I have my FPS locked at 30fps and it never once went lower than that These screenshots are all FSX: Steam Edition running DX10 mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabnz Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 An impressive set. I really thought, in the first place, that you had mixed real photos with screenshots (specially pic 4 to 7) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 No doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradB Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Looks pretty good to me , but what do I know . Cheers Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-KDK Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Wonderful detail in this scenery. So much to buy and so little time to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B77X Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I wish the team would rethink the opposition to the extending runway. Great looking scenery but the lack of a recent runway length is a big turn off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Cajic Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I wish the team would rethink the opposition to the extending runway. Great looking scenery but the lack of a recent runway length is a big turn off. How is it a big turnoff? There's no 'opposition', the reason has been explained already: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/99554-wine-country-introducing-ksts-sonoma-county-regional-airport/?p=900982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B77X Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 How is it a big turnoff? There's no 'opposition', the reason has been explained already: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/99554-wine-country-introducing-ksts-sonoma-county-regional-airport/?p=900982 Didnt they upgrade the runway length for bigger airplane service by the airlines? I cannot accurately fly using real world charts and takeoff calculations because all the info I have is up to date while the runway in the sim is 2 years old. It is just a small but important piece. I buy addon airports to simulate current conditions. A little runway extension surely cannot mess up the scenery this much can it? Even if you offered it in a patch in a few months time it woulld be appreciated. I am trying not to sound whiny I just expect to get a current accurate modeling of an airport if I pay 30 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Hi 413x3 Not at all: you are not being a "cry baby", it is an important technical observation. As you said, the airport without the updated version, does not lend itself to IFR simulation. But Mischa must have a technical problem or "dead line" that prevents he from making the necessary adjustment. Well he could be more specific about the adequacy of the airport to the current FAA standards, do not know what's going on. I'm stumped! Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Newman Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 While I can appreciate the expectation to some degree, the developers are generally at the mercy of available data... In this case, the aerial photos. The extension to the runway was completed, and new photography updated, shortly after Misha started this project, but enough work had already been done to make it impractical (in both time and cost) to rework everything. This thing happens all the time... airports constantly change configuration and the latest real world charts no longer match the sim version. It's just a fact of flight sim life. It's rare for a developer to ever release a "airport configuration update"... at least I've never seen one. As for KSTS, I can assure you that before the extension, the Q400s serving The airport had no trouble getting in and out on the shorter runway. It was considered a "special" airport and required specific experience to land there, but the extension was made just to remove that limitation. Peromance calculations should still fall well within limits. Probably not what you want to hear, but that's the long and short of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Hi 413x3 , the airport without the updated version, does not lend itself to IFR simulation. Why ? Aren't the old approach plates still available ? It was considered a "special" airport and required specific experience to land there, You mean the copilot had to put a foot out on the runway to slow the aircraft ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Why ? Aren't the old approach plates still available ? [...] No, mate! New Navigraph database and others only keeps the "old" procedure when it does not suffer substantial changes. In this case, the modification is automatically processes> new AIRAC cycle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Newman Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 You mean the copilot had to put a foot out on the runway to slow the aircraft ? Not that far off actually It was basically "make sure you land on or before the markers then use the brakes immediately"... any floating down the runway trying to get a greaser was frowned upon Of course this did tend to result in some very "positive" arrivals as we call them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 No, mate! New Navigraph database and others only keeps the "old" procedure when it does not suffer substantial changes. In this case, the modification is automatically processes> new AIRAC cycle! So only the FMS-tied aircraft updating themselves to the last data base may have problems. GA and turboprop simcraft will be able to do IFR landing or take off (including RNAV with the Garmin 750) with the old charts as before. Not that far off actually It was basically "make sure you land on or before the markers then use the brakes immediately"... any floating down the runway trying to get a greaser was frowned upon Of course this did tend to result in some very "positive" arrivals as we call them! "Positive" landing like the one a commercial pilot fresh out of Navy aviation can do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Attwood Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Isn't FSX and P3D for entertainment only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Cajic Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Hi guys, I have actually included an airport chart with the older configuration in the user guide if that is the main problem I managed to snag it before the charts got updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Ross Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 The old length of 14/32 was 5,121' while the new one is 6,000'. The old length on 2/20 was 5,020' and now it's 5,202'. How much difference does that really make, especially on the approach? So far, no one has noted that the DH/DA is 1 foot different and the minimum altitude at the outer marker for a non-precision approach is now 2,000' instead of 1,900'. It's probably a good thing, because the procedure altitudes aren't affected by the increase in runway length. The ILS will fly like it always did, up to date Navagraph/NavDatPro or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolf8857 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Awesome shots Rob, thanks for showing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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