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    MSFS cruise slowdown

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    Posted · Edited by renault

    1 hour ago, wain71 said:

    okay so here's what I have done, first of I uninstalled Simple Traffic that seemed to have improved things, just flew Gatwick to Belfast, cruise at FL380 with live weather, all was good- this was in the Fenix.....

     

    now regarding the crash issues I have gone into cmd- and ran sfc /scannow, it found errors with windows install and fixed them, hopefully random crashes have been sorted  I was getting 0xc0000005 errors, did all what Microsoft said, I also find it's best if I have been doing other things to restart the PC before opening MSFS....

    Hi Wayne

     

    If this still is creating a problem for you, may I suggest you consider the following.  What I discovered on my system is that having

    XMP off*  (its easy to do in bios & and you can just as easily turn it back on again) has had a major impact on the stability on my system running MS2020. 

     

    For several months now I have had a seemingly endless litany of  0xc0000005 errors . Conventional "wisdom" is that these are caused

    by addons , but in my case I had the issue even with nothing in my community folder.  This error is generically a memory access violation and

    has dozens of different causes from driver/registry issues to particular applications ( it is true that an addon can cause the problem, but it is not

    the only reason) to any kind of issue with ram stability. 

     

    The reason that I chose the words "having XMP off* "  is that the other day, when I started my machine  I got a message saying that there was

    an issue with either the CPU or memory. I discovered that XMP had shut off and I was unable to get it to work again.  I called the builder

    of my machine and they mentioned that they have seen issues before where this has happened and it is often due to a

    memory module that just "basically doesn't like being put into an overclocked state any longer". 

     

     So long story short I decided just to run my machine without XMP and see what would happen.  All I can say is that I have had nada issues

    of any kind with MS2020 and this is after about 65 hrs of use now, including leaving it running MS2020 for 6 hrs. 

     

    I have gone over the exact scenarios for multiple cases that I could guarantee would result in CTD's without any issues at all now. 

    My builder did also say that they have seen some instances where particular applications just didn't run well with XMP on, but with it off

    the application was completely stable.

     

    Microsoft does mention at their website that any overclocking (CPU or XMP) has been known to cause issues and their suggestion was

    to disable it (without any explanation as to why it could be a problem).  

     

    Yes I know that there are many people who will say, why do this because this will slow MS2020 down.  Well in my case I always have the

    frame rate locked at 30 fps and I see absolutely no difference with XMP on or off in terms of how fast/slow MS2020 behaves in any 

    respect, but so far a world of difference in terms of stability.

     

    The second issue is with regard to things appearing to slow down on long flights. In the past some addons , such as

    the toolbar pushback helper app, would cause memory issues , especially a memory leak.  So in terms of testing , if you use that addon, you

    might want to temporally  disable it.

     

    So I hope that these suggestions may be of some interest and possible help to you. I appreciate that turning XMP off may be a

    controversial subject and my posting this is from the perspective that for me it has made a very positive impact in terms

    of eliminating 0xc0000005 errors. 

     

     I sincerely do not wish to imply that everyone should do it as a matter of course , especially if  a) you are not having any issues

    and b) you do not use MS2020 with a locked fps.  Using MS2020 without a locked fps could certainly  have the potential

    to see a performance decrease with a lower ram speed.

     

    Lastly I appreciate that I may well have an issue with a particular ram stick(s) , but since I have  64GB of ram, and it may be

    difficult/impossible to get the exact replacement, replacing all of them to ensure they match is a costly proposition.  Normally, I would not

    mention this as it certainly seems like a potential hardware issue in my case, except for the MS Zen desk comment that XMP can cause issues

    with MS2020 and they make the recommendation to disable it.

     

    In my case I continue to test, but so far have seen no negative aspects on how MS2020 is working for me as a  result of XMP being off. 

    If indeed, I do have a  misbehaving memory stick(s) I will find out soon enough, but so far this has definitely improved my system stability and

    in my case not affected the performance.

     

    Cheers

    Pete

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    MSFS cruise slowdown

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    2 hours ago, wain71 said:

    not sure what's going on, did a few flights recently in both the FENIX & PMDG 737, at cruise level around FL350 I found that all the head movement is very slow and like draggy, I tried with the default Bus and it was the same....however going from Live or REX weather to Sofly WPP weather and all is good, this has only happened in the last few days.....machine is not being over taxed looking at the numbers for CPU/GPU etc....

     

    Just wondering if anyone else has seen any similar things?

     

    I was wondering if it was to many clouds visible when you are that high as opposed to say FL 240....planes are still flyable and system is not crashing, just slow head movement around the cockpit....

    I have to preface this Wayne with saying that I have no idea either what may be the cause of this.

     

    On the other hand , what you are describing  sounds very much like the beginning of oxygen deprivation :o

     

    Maybe taking the MS brand to new heights with the Top Gun  Addon with the hypersonic aircraft

    has introduced a whole new meaning to  "as real as it gets" :D:lol::lol:

     

    Cheers:)

    Pete

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    RTX 3060 12 GB vs. 3060 ti

    in Hardware and Tech Talk

    Posted

    Hi Dominik

     

    Basically I had virtually the same system as you until I upgraded my GPU from a RTX2060 super to a RTX3070ti.

     

    It sounds to me that your GPU is really pushed to its capabilities  running at 3440 x 1440 . On my own system at 2560 x 1440 p 

    with fps locked at 30 fps (this is important for this card)  I was running at about 80 - 90 % utilization with temps at 70-73C.

    This was with all settings in MS2020 at ultra.  Vram usage was around 7-7.3 total system allocated memory.

     

    I can't comment on P3d as I never have owned it.

     

    With the 3070ti, Vram usage is the same, GPU utilization is about 40% and temps are gpu 55-58C, Memory 64-68C and hot spot junction temperature

    is about 70 - 72C.  The card is very quiet.

     

    I'm sure that many others will have opinions on this matter and hopefully they will also comment.

     

    If I were in your shoes I would not buy a new gpu right now but do the following

     

    1) If you haven't done this , lock your fps at 30 using either Nvidia Control panel or the vsync setting in MS2020

     

    2) Go into MS2020 and set scaling to 75%.  This will run your system at 2580 x 1080p and the built in upscaler in MS2020 will

    upscale to your monitor resolution,  If the image quality is not quite to your liking, then increase the scaling by 5% and try again .

    You should be able to get a visual fidelity and balanced system load which is acceptable.

     

    Your 2060 will work much better under these conditions until SU10 ....

     

    3) With SU10 the Nvidia DLSS (Deep learning Super Sampling) system will be incorporated into MS2020 .

     

         There are numerous articles by Nvidia and others about DLSS and the quality it gives, while significantly reducing the system load on both

         the cpu and gpu. 

     

         Once you have had a chance to try this and to see how much better your system runs MS2020 with it, I think then you can make a much better informed decision

        than you can at this point in time.   It has the potential for such a significant improvement for most users  that I personally think it is impossible to decide upon a

        GPU  purchase , until you have a chance to use DLSS  for a while with your current system. System behaviour will be very different with DLSS  compared with

       what you are achieving with SU9 at the moment.

     

    The following is my understanding of the background to your question

                 "what makes the ti "better" despite having less VRAM? 

     

    Cheers 

    Pete

     

    In order to understand the answer to why the 3060 ti is a better card overall we need to delve into the 
    workings of a gpu a little bit.

     

    The following discussion is specific to Nvidia GPU's since Nvidia uses different memory bus specification (memmory bus width) on different cards.

     It is my understanding that AMD uses a single memory bus width of 384 bits for all their cards.

     

    The memory bus width on a GPU more or less defines the number of Vram memory chips that can be used on a graphics card.

     

    The memory bus width refers to the number of bits of data per clock cycle that can be sent or received from the GPU.
    So for example a card with a 100 bit memory bus width means that it can transfer 100 bits of data in a single clock cycle.

     

    Memory bandwidth is the rate that data can be stored or retrieved  from memory by a processor.

    Memory bandwidth is a combination of both the memory bus size and the actual speed that the memory runs at.
    Memory bandwidth refers to the ability to move data such as textures in and out of the Vram as they are processed by 
    the GPU.

     

    The 3060 has a 192 bit memory bus which is slower than the 256 bit memory bus that the 3060ti has. In other words, the 3060 in a single clock

    cycle can transfer 192 bits of data into or out of Vram, whereas the 3060ti in 1 clock cycle would be able to transfer 256 bits of data.

     

    A Vram memory chip has a bandwidth of 32 bits. DDR6 memory chips usually come in multiples of 1 or 2 GB.

     

    So a 3060 with a 192 bit memory bus would use 6 lanes of 32 bit bandwidth which is 6x32 = 192 bits.


    In other words, due to the bus memory bandwidth, the 3060 has room for 6 memory chips.  

     

    Nvidia basically designs for  a minimum memory of 8 GB for its RTX series cards.
    So this means that  a 3060 could have six, 1 GB DDR6 memory chips which would be 6GB in total.

     

    However, since this is less than the 8 GB design spec, they used six 2GB DDR6 memory chips to adhere to
    the memory design spec, which means the card ended up with a total of 12 GB.  The 12 GB vram fills the 6 slots.

     

    The 3060ti has a memory bus width of 256 bits. This means that it would have 8 lanes (8 x 32 = 256 bits)

    and therefore would have room for 8 memory chips.  Using 1 GB memory chips then gives you a total of 8GB total
    Vram which meets their RTX design specification.

     

    The 3060 has a higher memory speed (1875MHz)  than the 3060 ti memory speed of 1750Mhz. This is based on non overclocked design specifications.

    To calculate the memory bandwidth we multiply the memory speed x memory bus rate.

     

    For the 3060 this would give a memory bandwidth of 1875Mhz x 192 bits = 360 GB/second
    For the 3060ti this would give a memory bandwith of 1750Mhz x 256 bits = 448 GB/second

     

    This means that the 3060ti can process textures etc faster in its memory than the basic 3060, even though the 3060 comes with more memory

    and the memory speed is actually slightly faster. In other words the 3060ti is still the faster card because with its higher memory bus speed it is able to move more information (448 GB/sec)  in/out of memory than the 3060 (360 GB/sec).

     

    Just for comparison ...

     

    RTX 3070 Memory bus width = 256 bits (Supports 8 chips @32 bit/chip)
                    Vram = 8 GB @ 1GB DDR6 per chip 

     

    RTX 3070ti Memory bus width = 256 bits (Supports 8 chips @32 bit/chip)
                    Vram = 8 GB @ 1GB DDR6X per chip 

     

    RTX 3080  Memory bus width = 320 bits (Supports 10 chips @ 32 bit/chip)
                    Vram = 10 GB @ 1GB per chip

     

    RTX 3080ti  Memory bus width = 384 bits (Supports 12 chips @ 32 bit/chip)
                    Vram = 12 GB @ 1GB   chip 
     

    RTX 3090 Memory bus width = 384 bits (Supports 12 chips @ 32 bit/chip)
                    Vram = 24 GB @ 2GB  per chip

     

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    Marino di Campo , Italy

    in Community Screenshots

    Posted

    On 5/21/2022 at 12:49 PM, BradB said:

    Splendid set of shots Pete . 

    Thanks John:)

    Cheers

    Pete

     

    On 5/21/2022 at 2:00 PM, Sniper31 said:

    Your images are always so deeply colored Pete. Really shows of the details nicely. Another great set! :) 

     

    Landon

    Thanks Landon:)

    It is appreciated very much sir!

    Cheers

    Pete

     

    16 hours ago, John Mac said:

    Fabulous set Pete! Felt I was on me holidays there for a moment! 
    John.

     

    15 hours ago, bernd1151 said:

    Fantastic pics, Pete. Gives me the feeling of almost being there myself :)

    Thanks to both of you

    That was the feeling I was trying to convey :)

    Cheers

    Pete

     

    12 hours ago, Stillwater said:

    Fantastic shots Pete, I can almost SMELL being there.

     

    But you do not have the full picture of history:

    That is not true, at least not for me. The most famous visitor there was my doctoral father, the writer of reference #2 in this article: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grüner_Igelwurm . In the 1980s he was harvesting Bonellia viridis with some hired divers in the Marina di Campo, to extract Bonellin, the green pigment of Chrorophyll-like structure, before developing the first lab synthesis of it. We had original samples (mg) of natural Bonellin in our lab fridge, obviously a treasure.

    My goodness Gerold , what  a childhood you must of had.:)

    To have a father who did that for a living, would have been a adventure every day for you.

     

    I just did some reading on it.  Bonellin is not something you would want to have around without precautions by the sounds of it . The

    actual worm doesn't sound like the kind of creature you want to encounter either. I fully understand what you mean by the odor reference :o

     

    And the male of the species .... My goodness, I  don't think I will sleep well tonight   :o:o

     

    And I quite agree .... Napoleon ....  not even close!!

     

    Cheers and thanks so much for this.  

    I learned some fascinating things about something I knew absolutely nothing about

    All the best 

    Pete

     

     

     

     

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    Early Morning .... Sydney

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    Posted · Edited by renault

    On 5/19/2022 at 8:36 PM, flyingleaf said:

    Holy smokes Pete these shots look like real life.:)

    Thanks Landon :)

    They did turn out kinda nice I thought

     

    I especially enjoyed the level of detail that Orbx puts into their scenery that shows in the "coathanger"

    Did you know that it is the largest steel arch bridge on the planet.

     

    To me that is real hands on engineering.  When it was built in 1923 engineering calculations were done by hand

    and often with a slide rule. I affectionately still have mine which I got when I started university.

     

    Slide rule (The Diary of Samuel Pepys) (pepysdiary.com)

     

    It was made by Keuffel & Esser and came in a leather case that hung off your belt.  Lots of aircraft were designed using this

    technology as well.  In fact one way to improve the accuracy of the calculation was to make them "longer".  And they did that by making

    a circular slide rule.  If I have it correct, a lot of pilots had a specialized circular one that was used to calculate range, fuel use etc.

     

    It was also very common for sailing  . 

     

    Although it all worked, the science of optimization and strength of materials was in its infancy. As I result the use of "safety factors" was very

    common and often resulted in a doubling or tripling of size and strength of materials. Not only has the science and our computational ability now progressed but the ability to more clearly understand how to optimize and minimize the materials used and to use stronger materials is something that was only dreamt of back then.  But it certainly did the job and the structures still are functional and in use today.

     

    Needless to say it wasn't a very efficient tool but it got the job done.  About 4 yrs later I was able to get one of the first electronic calculators designed for the sciences  (first a Texas Instruments and then a Hewlett Packard) and I put it into storage.

     

    Makes me stop and think how far we have come in my  lifetime 

    Cheers & thanks

    Pete

     

    On 5/19/2022 at 11:28 PM, Stillwater said:

    Fantastic shots Pete. And I have no doubt why the German ship in #2 (Gorch Fock) has to leave: Circulay Quay is occupied as usual (with a british towel), and it is not easy to sail under that bridge.

    Thanks Gerold

    But they always got the job done .... superb seamanship :)

    Cheers

    Pete

     

    On 5/20/2022 at 12:32 AM, John Mac said:

    Stunners Pete, each and everyone of them!

    John.

    Thanks JM :)

    See you 

    Pete

     

    On 5/20/2022 at 5:14 AM, BradB said:

    Looking mighty fine Pete !! . 

    Thanks John :)

    All the best!

    Pete

     

    On 5/20/2022 at 7:17 AM, lifejogger said:

    Wow Pete, these are amazing.

    Why thanks John. 

    I am so very pleased that you enjoyed them 

    Cheers:)

    Pete

     

    On 5/20/2022 at 12:52 PM, carlosqr said:

    Hell yes!!! Love them

    Nice work Pete

    Hi Carlos :)

    Thank you

    See you

    Pete

     

    On 5/21/2022 at 3:13 AM, adambar said:

    Gorgeous set of shots Pete! :)

    Wow thanks Adam!

    I am really pleased you liked them

    Cheers:)

    Pete

     

    On 5/21/2022 at 4:02 AM, boetie said:

    I can see a postcard or two Pete!

    Cheers

    Graeme :)

    Now there's an idea Graeme:)

    Love it!

    Cheers

    Pete

     

     

     

    I'm a colour nerd at heart

    in Community Screenshots

    Posted

    On 5/19/2022 at 8:34 PM, flyingleaf said:

    Great shot and color indeed Pete.:)

    Thanks ! 

    I am really pleased you liked it.

    All the best

    Pete

     

    On 5/19/2022 at 11:33 PM, Stillwater said:

    The colour nerd can not be pleased by the livery here, it must be something else. They say raging bulls like moving red colors...

    I think the lad in the checkered shirt has other things on his mind B)

    Cheers & thanks Gerold :)

    Pete

     

    On 5/20/2022 at 12:30 AM, John Mac said:

    Nice shot Pete! Love the colour of it!

    John.

    Thanks JM

    Nice to hear from you :)

    I was pleased with how it came out.

    All the best sir!

    Pete

     

    On 5/20/2022 at 5:13 AM, BradB said:

    Lady in Red 2.0 ………:wub::lol:

     Yes indeed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    And she has a following as well ....

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    On 5/20/2022 at 7:15 AM, lifejogger said:

    Turned out very good Pete!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks John!

    All the best:)

    Pete

     

    9 hours ago, adambar said:

    Looks great there Pete. :)

    Thanks Adam:)

    Cheers

    Pete

     

    9 hours ago, boetie said:

    Eyes up lad! That geyser in the lavender shirt???

    Look a few comments back ....  I'm on it !!!!!!

    :lol::lol:

     

    3 hours ago, Stillwater said:

    He is not focusing on that what a flight nerd would see.

    You were young once too Gerold :lol::lol:

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    Marino di Campo , Italy

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    Posted · Edited by renault

    Marina di Campo airport is the airport for the Italian island of Elba. It is located in the village

    of La Pila. Perhaps  it's most famous resident in its long history was  Napoleon Bonaparte, who was

    exiled here in early 1814 after he was dethroned.

     

    I've always wanted to visit Elba as I thought after reading a book about Napoleon , that he was on to a good thing.:)

     

    Cheers

     

     

    Kodiak 100, RexWeatherForce Live Weather, RexAccuseasons - "Summer - Peaceful Meadow setting"

     

     

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    Now this is where I really want to be ..... Poolside!
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    In fact that little table has my name all over it :D
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    The got me loaded and I thought that all I need are passengers and I can be off.  But then they

    all disappeared - lunch !

     

    So instead, here I stay , out on the tarmac, in the heat , dreaming of better times:)


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    Anomalies after update 9 LOWI and TIVAT so far

    in Microsoft Flight Simulator

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Sniper31 said:

    Legos were my favorite when I was a kid. They would keep me busy for hours, upon hours. :) 

     

    Its great fun Landon.  I even ended up making some little airplanes  that I thought looked quite realistic.

     

    Only problem was, when I tossed them into the air to see how well they would fly , invariably they crashed onto my desktop :(

     

    Maybe its not MS2020 at all, but me who has the problem :lol::lol:

     

    Cheers Sir! :)

     

     

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    Advances in Digital Imaging - AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution 2.0

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    Posted · Edited by renault

    Hi Craig

    Thanks, I'm pleased that you found it of interest

     

    Yes, you are completely correct . The "devil is in the details" with such technologies and implementation is everything.

     

    It's interesting technology and certainly can bring benefits for many gamers.

     

    My own experience is that any static image looks very good, but motion, especially with edge effects can be a very different story.

     

    In that respect  full native resolution still gives the best quality image for me.  

     

    Not to say that these technologies aren't very, very good but there are compromises.   

     

    It's one of my favourite expressions  - "You can have things fast, you can have things good, or you can have things cheap.

    Which 2 of the 3 do you want?"

     

    So if you approach this tech with that in mind then I think most people will find settings for their particular hardware configurations 

    that they are happy with in terms of overall smoothness and image quality.

     

    Cheers

    Pete

    Anomalies after update 9 LOWI and TIVAT so far

    in Microsoft Flight Simulator

    Posted

    @carlosqr

    Yes Carlos it seems pretty much everywhere.

    Alaska has some very interesting geological analogies as well.

     

    However, in one respect this are all relatively benign  - the real "train wreck" occurs if you turn on DX12 :(

    A lot of the masking overlays for etc for Orbx airports are just gone. Not all but just some in different areas of the airport.

    However, it is not constant and you get different results each time you load the scenery.

     

    For me it started in SU8, but based upon my experience(s) SU9 deserves its own award for taking it to the max:rolleyes:

     

    I guess we all just will have to wait until Asobo sorts out what is happening.

     

    I think the challenge for any developer at the moment is whether this is caused by something fundamental that 

    was changed in SU9 and will be permanent or whether it is a "bug" that can/will be addressed by a hot fix.

     

    Personally , I've been raiding my children's lego collection every since the SU9  hotfix came out.

    I find it to be very therapeutic and calming.

     

    Cheers

    Pete

    Problems with Microsoft Edge & websites that use reCAPTCHA validation

    in Hardware and Tech Talk

    Posted

    Hi

     

    Recently I found that I was unable to log into websites that use reCAPTCHA (the pick pictures with traffic lights or tractors etc validation method )with Microsoft Edge .

     

    What would happen after entering my ID/Password the screen would flash briefly and I would get a message that CAPTACHA failed.

     

    I have tried everything I could think of (clear cache , history etc, update edge etc.etc.etc ....)

    Nothing worked in Edge , although Google Chrome was fine and I could use that as an alternative.

     

    As strange as it may seem , the following solution solved my problem completely

     

    If you open Edge and click crtl + shift + N , you will go into an InPrivate window.

     

    Now the reCAPTCHA validation works without any issues.

     

    Just thought this might be of help to my fellow members

    Cheers

    R

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    If you use a Microsoft XBox controller with MS2020...

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    Posted

     Ever since SU7 I have been plagued with "random" CTD's .
     In SU8 they became worse , and in SU9 I could almost guarantee that I couldn't complete a session without a CTD.

     

     I highlighted the word random, because in the last week or so, I came to realize that there there were two items one of which

     seem to be connected with the event.

     

     1) Not all the time, but perhaps 90% or so, a CTD was preceded by a drone toggle movement


     2) Since late SU8 / SU9, my controller has been behaving "badly". By this I mean moving the joystick would often result in "jerky" camera movements

    or sometimes nothing at all would happen and then the drone  camera would jump to the desired position, rather than moving smoothly.

     

    I was at the point where I had pretty much decided that it was just worn out , even though it was only about 2 yrs old.  As a last step, I decided to do a

    google search and found at a MS site that there are firmware updates for XBox controllers and that if one is experiencing problems this should be the first item

    to check and apply if needed.

     

    I don't know the model of my controller aside from it being both blue tooth and wireless.  I have it connected by wire to a USB port because

    I found that it just destroyed batteries which got to be expensive.

     

    However to update the firmware , you need a app from the Microsoft store called XBox accessories.

     

    Please note that for it to be able to properly update the firmware ,the controller must be connected to your computer through a USB cable.

    It will not update through either wifi or bluetooth, but only through its usb connection.

     

    The first time you use the App it will automatically check the controller firmware status and in my case detected that an update was necessary.

     

    Clicking update and you find it does its thing, but it is incredibly slow taking about 3 minutes for the progress bar to complete.

     

    Once it is updated , when ever you use the app you will get the following screen.  As indicated in the screenshot below , click the 3 dots and you will be taken

    to the second screen.  You can also change other items on the controller , configure buttons etc. , but I didn't need any of this so it was not investigated

     

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    If you click the box with the 3 dots you  will be taken to the second screen where you can check your firmware status , as well as update the

    firmware if that proves to be necessary

     

    If you see that no update is available it  means your firmware is up to date.

     

    20-Check-for-firmware-updates.png

     

    The results...

     

    I have had MS2020 running very stably now for about 2 1/2 hrs. with no issues .  The drone movement is incredibly "silky smooth" and extremely controllable with even the smallest toggle movements.

     

    It is very much improved compared with its behaviour before the firmware update.

     

    I hope this may be of some help to my fellow members as before today, I wasn't even aware that Xbox controller firmware can/should be updated.  

     

    All I can say is that at the present time I am very pleased with the first results. Hopefully MS2020 will now behave itself, but time will tell.

     

    Cheers 

    Pete
     

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