EasternT3
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Thank you both for the responses
Sorry secondary question, would a RTX 3080 12GB be any good? There's a significant price difference between the 3080 12GB and 3090 24GB, is the 3090 worth it over 3080? Thanks
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All, I am looking/hoping for some advice, as when it comes to PCs, I am not the smartest. back in 2020, MSFS brought me back into this community but the issue was I had a 7/8 year old PC which couldn't cope, anyway I rushed into purchasing a new PC from a UK builder called chillblast, the specs are below
i7-9700K @ 3.60GHz
16GB RAM
RTX 2060 8GB Super 8GB
At the start it was fine but now for example, tonight I tried to fly into DD's KMDW with the landmark packs installed, the emphasis is tried, it all went well till 5000ft 20nm out when it turned to a slideshow and ultimately a crash because the sim was uncontrollable, now this has got me concerned with the round the corner releases of higher fidelity aircraft/airports, I want to future proof...
I am potentially going to invest into a new pc which I hope will be able to serve me for the next 3-5 years, the issue is I don't know if these specs are what I need, they are
i7-10700K @ 3.8-5.1 GHZ
64GB DDR4 2666MHz Memory
RTX 3090 24GB
My ideal is to run MSFS at Ultra across the board (yes I am someone who's after top graphics as well as the aircraft depth
), whilst using addon airports/cityscapes and for example the NG3/Fenix A320. Will these specs be enough?
Thanks
Joe
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Happy Birthday Iain
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Thank you for sharing John, although it looks fun, I can envisage the bombardment of support requests.
I really hope you don't receive any trouble for this
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Hi @737fpeter,
I think I can make sense of your post post, just to clear up because the translation may not be 100% for you, the person who gets it for free, does not get it today, they'll have to wait for it to release like all of us. If you think they don't deserve a free copy then that's fine but it's Orbx's choice. Also I'm sure the P3D version will be around soon, when essendon was released last year, there was a 2 month gap between the MSFS and P3D version, (although there was also a X-Plane version inbetween)
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10 minutes ago, DaRadicalCavy said:
I do appreciate that and get we are both wanting the best for this and just passionate
I totally understand all of your points and if they didn't explicitly state "We were planning to release this weekend but unfortunately there’s a last minute showstopper that is being worked on." Which doesn't at all imply it was due to any issues but to get a late stage big product out I'd have definitely said thank you for the update and I hope they are fixed soon. They just are two very different things to me which is why felt was worthwhile raising.
I do know and accept that by nature of my dyslexia I can not quite understand tone but do genuinly try my best to be fair and respectful.
Either way, I do genuinly believe that they have listened and don't have ill intentions and hopefully will be a learning experience so think is best to let sleeping dogs lie and all that and just look forward to this release when it comes!
I agree, I guess it's all about how you read things and draw different conclusions, from the previews, this deffo looks like a great airport and one to pick up
Tbh I'd rather have more airports in lesser represented countries than every airport from 2/3 countries. so defiantly, looking forward to LKPR
15 minutes ago, tomaszima43 said:Yes, I understand, but it is unfair to others.
I do get that Tomas, but like I said, DaRadicalCavy did something to deserve it, Orbx can't give free products to everyone
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15 minutes ago, tomaszima43 said:
Hello. also please copy LKPR to my account please. Thank you Tomas
With all due respect Tomas, DaRadicalCavy actually posted on reflection some good points, whereas you've just said, when is it coming, so why do you get a free copy, other than trying your luck
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35 minutes ago, DaRadicalCavy said:
Which is your right to believe. Though disagreeing and putting hard questions to people doesn't mean rude. They have said are delaying the release of a Airport that will probably be bought on the lower end of the scale of people for a "Showstopper" by definition that's a huge thing as they have chosen to delay and go back on what their standard is, and didn't say anything about it until people on this forum called out. That's chasing the bigger income. I have worked in buisness advise so I know a thing or two about this stuff...
I do get your point, for the balance of fairness, Orbx announced LKPR on the 29th Jan, and WU7 released on the 31st, we don't know what the showstopper is, but for example WU7 could have caused a CTD when loading in LKPR, or something else in WU7 could have caused the issue, now you can argue in this case, that they shouldn't have announced until they tested with WU7 but then (my background is Project Management/Scheduling) if Orbx runs SRAs/What If scenarios, then the chances of issues stemming from WU's would be quiet low because I haven't seen it being mentioned before, and on the history of MSFS, only SU's seemed to have caused development issues, so if I was the PM I would have been happy announcing LKPR on the 29th
Another point is, these threads tend to launch within 2 weeks of launch, we're only a week into the thread, in could be resonable that Orbx could think that they could have found the issue, fixed it and tested before the period was up...I'm not trying to make excesses, and yes maybe they should have said something but then you'll know from experience things are always more dynamic than what it seems
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1 hour ago, DaRadicalCavy said:
I don't mean to be rude/arrogant
You sound very rude though imo, I don't get how you can say Orbx want a quick buck when they are not rushing to release, and delayed it, there's plenty of other products recently released for MSFS that should have been delayed for show stopping bugs but haven't. So actually Orbx should be giving credit for delaying release to fix this issue,
I think this delay is the first I've noticed for a product in the last couple of years, so Orbx obviously have a good track record of knowing where their products are in the cycle, and with this one it's the same but they found a last minute problem, hey it's software, it happens.
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These topics are normally started about 2 weeks before release, so hopefully the end of next week,
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2 hours ago, Captain Lars said:
My comments were initially in response to this post, which brought up the issue.
Anyway, just enjoy MSFS as I enjoy P3D and I am more than happy to close the topic.
My apologies, I'm sorry I didn't realise the entire post wasn't aimed at me. (It's been a crap week, with the death of someone very close to me so I'm not thinking straight)
Agreed and for what it's worth, I hope OpenLC Asia releases sooner rather than later for you guys...after all we are here for the same reason, we love aviation and flight simulation.
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I’m not saying I think the closing of the support forums is the correct move, I often try and help people where I can, and yes I agree sometimes as users we can sometimes offer the same if not better support as the devs,
If Ed or Anna (or anyone at Orbx is reading this) a potential idea…if you want to continue using tickets for more personalised support, how about you reopen the support forums but make clear, for official support to go through the website, and that if you request support on the forum, it’ll be user to user support, that’s how PMDG works and it seems to work pretty well.
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1 hour ago, EasternT3 said:
MSFS would still have a user base 95 times bigger than P3D at it's peak. (I'll happily provide data for that)
EDIT : I meant 5 times, my brain obviously doesn’t work first thing in the morning
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9 hours ago, W2DR said:
So why are they called "support" forums? There are other places to preview products and talk about all things flight sim. I agree with Brad. I've been around here longer than most and if this is what the support forums have become I'll seldom come back. IMNSHO it's a really bad move.......Doug
They're called the community and support forums.
Question Doug, on this forum where do you post or spend the most time in? Like if I click on your profile, the majority of your recent activity seems to be General Discussion/the memorial lounge and not the support bit, if you actually use the support bit all the time, then fair enough.
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9 hours ago, Captain Lars said:
But the willingness to spend is indeed very relevant to a roadmap.
How? If anything what products people buy is related to the roadmap, not the price or what they're willing to spend, if anything people are willing to spend a cr*p ton more in MSFS, which is why you're seeing a lot more products both payware and freeware than P3D on average (when it was the main sim)
9 hours ago, Captain Lars said:Bigger customer bases allow for smaller prices, that's correct, but finding a 'good' price is not at all a trivial thing to do. Customers are generally charged what they are willing to pay. If they are willing to pay more, they are charged more. This is another simple side of economics.
I'm sure if MSFS prices went back to P3D prices then people would still spend, yes not as much but they still would, just like how P3D prices would be £5-£10 cheaper if P3D ever had the market to support that
10 hours ago, Captain Lars said:Another assumption based on thin air. Apart from this, MSFS was released in august of 2020, so this is 18 months and not two years, if I'm not mistaken.
Not thin air (now who's the one assuming lars
) if you look at the tread data for videos games (or just understand the basic cycles of games) you'll know this is true. Take FIFA, it releases in September, by March, the only ones playing it are the serious players, the casuals have moved on, same with Call of Duty or any other game. 18 months/2 years...still longer than the average attention span of a average gamer, and another point, if 95% of the MSFS user base left (like you said in your post), MSFS would still have a user base 95 times bigger than P3D at it's peak. (I'll happily provide data for that)
10 hours ago, Captain Lars said:That numbers will grow is obviously not a fact, it's an expectation, which is a tiny difference.
A expectation based on fact, I don't know what forums you frequent but on A2A's/PMDG and even a couple here, there's so many comments saying I am moving to MSFS once product X is released for the platform, namely the NG3 and A2A aircraft but I have a feeling the Fenix A320 will bring some bus drivers to MSFS. Also look at the tread data for MSFS usage over the last 18 months
10 hours ago, Captain Lars said:I did not bring up the MSFS subject. Actually I never bring this subject up, because I have absolutely no interest in bringing it up. I have an interest in OpenLC Asia, as should anyone who enters a thread that has "OpenLC Asia" in its title. The subject was brought up by another user; I suggest you have a look.
Have you got a short memory? I replied to Stiillwater's comment talking about roadmaps, neither of us brought up a sim, it was a discussion about roadmaps in general, you said
"I have a hard time imaging that the advent of MSFS has created such a large amount of die hard simmers. It has created a large amout of casual simmers of whom 95% will soon be off to more 'gamey games' or whatever distracts them best."
so yes Lars you did bring up MSFS, I don't know how you can sit there and say you didn't because you didn't, maybe read the thread leading up to the comment and. you'll see it was you that brought up MSFS....
10 hours ago, Captain Lars said:But MSFS is not a sim that I am going to use in the near future. Why? That's my cup of tea and I don't owe you an explanation.
Ok...I didn't ask for one nor expect one so it's cute you thinking I wanted one
10 hours ago, Captain Lars said:suggest you just let others enjoy what they like. We are living in a free society, after all, and this means that we are not stepping in others' affairs and trying to ruin their hobbies.
Posts like yours aim at some kind of delegitimization of OpenLC Asia, and we are witnessing them since Orbx committed to its development. They are destructive.
I visit the forum to look at what Orbx does as a whole for the community, so I do view P3D threads from time to time as I did spend 6/7 years with it as my main sim so it's still nice to see what happens, but you miss the irony here Lars, my comment in that thread had nothing to do with Asia, P3D or MSFS, it was to do with roadmaps. You yes you Lars then made it into this conversation, because you brought sims into it. My comments had nothing to do with ruining the hobby, nor did I say anything about how Orbx should stop developement, that's you putting words trying to words into my mouth
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40 minutes ago, pilot100 said:
Yes John, I have already done that but what about YMMB YTDN YTYA etc they are just basic (of course there are the free 3rd party stuff). Hardly any focus on Victoria in the update Mt Beauty was about it. Of course this is Orbx's commercial call, just asking the question.
I don't think Orbx had any control over what was included in WU7, I think that was dictated by asobo, and of course not all airports could have been handcrafted, but 4-5 handcrafted airports seem to be the norm for all the world updates.
For what it's worth Orbx, I think the handcrafted airports you did for WU7 are the best handcrafted airports I've seen to date in MSFS.
On 2/3/2022 at 5:18 AM, John Dow said:It's included with the WU7 just released. You have to download the Australia update from Marketplace as a free download.
Sorry John for being dumb (my football team just lost in a lot controversy, so my brain isn't working) but they'll never be the Melbourne landmark pack for MSFS because it's included in WU7, just like how asobo used Frankfurt for WU6?
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4 hours ago, W2DR said:
I don't get it. Why have the forums at all? What relevance do they have now? I guess I'm just getting old..........
To preview upcoming products and to just have discussions all things flight sim
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21 minutes ago, PiotrMKG said:
And their islands? Canaries and Azores.
It's not been confirmed yet
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3 hours ago, PiotrMKG said:
Next World Update will be Iberia. I hope that it will be update to the whole Iberian peninsula, rather than Spain alone.
It's already confirmed as Portugal and Spain
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@B12, obviously something struck a nerve and caused you to go on a moaning rampage this morning,
1) why are people in this thread so special, that they deserve updates about OpenLC Asia? I get the frustration in waiting but there's a similar thread for KPBI and there's no response in that either, because Orbx don't provide updates, and normal practice is only announce products very close to release, and you can see why with this thread
2) You're getting mad and crying about "Orbx doesn't care about P3D anymore", that's probably true, but you fail to see the bigger picture. even though flight simulation is hobby, Orbx and other developers are still businesses, they still need to make money, and a few developers have said that P3D is no longer commercially viable, why do you think Milviz and Aeroplane Heaven have dropped P3D this week, I am sure many other developers with follow suit.
If I was a betting man I'd sadly put money on Orbx losing money on OpenLC Asia
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I was hoping to see M'M Simulations join the Orbx family
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I haven't flown in Aus since the update but I think you may be talking about things Orbx didn't work on, all Orbx did were "all the POIs and four airports"
YPJT and YPPH weren't done by Orbx and done by a different dev and tree's in the wrong places has been an issue since launch as is normally a photogrammetry issue
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15 hours ago, Captain Lars said:
It's not only about the size of the community, it's also about how much a member of a given community is willing to spend. Prices called out for MSFS products in comparison to P3D prices speak a clear language.
Lars, I fail to see how the amount willingness to spend is in any way relevant to a roadmap, the roadmap is there purely as a placeholder so people know roughly what to expect, I'm just saying because the community has exploded since the release of 2020, you will have more people questioning the roadmap every 5 minutes
The lower prices for MSFS addons is simple economics, a larger userbase = more sales therefore can be sold at a lower cost to achieve the same profit margin, stop thinking it's anything else
15 hours ago, Captain Lars said:I have a hard time imaging that the advent of MSFS has created such a large amount of die hard simmers. It has created a large amout of casual simmers of whom 95% will soon be off to more 'gamey games' or whatever distracts them best.
Why are P3D users threatened so much that even when the discussion is not on sim vs sim, you feel the need to drag it back to it. I cba talking about it anymore, but the numbers are on MSFS's side, go look at navigraph's report, and these numbers will grow by the end of 2022, with the release of the NG3 and Fenix A320, that's a fact btw.
Oh yeah and btw, casual gamers tend to move on from games after 4-6 months, not 2 years.
Not that this was the point but you made it go this way Lars, MSFS is here to stay, whether you like it or not (or can accept it)
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12 minutes ago, Stillwater said:
Do you remember the time when we were enthusiastically looking at JVs annual "roadmap" posts?
I love roadmaps, but as Nick pointed out in another thread, there's issues, especially as the community has grown significantly in recent times, and just end up with the 'When's Product X coming' or 'why didn't product x release last year', no matter how big and bold you write that the roadmap can change
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I totally understand all of your points and if they didn't explicitly state "
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Thank you Landon, that really helps