akmatov Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I seem to remember somewhere that Orbx had a new aeroplane penciled in as a future project. Was I hallucinating? If so, as a happy owner of Orbxplane, I'm just curious as what it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/84391-future-product-announcements-and-plans-from-sept-2014-onwards/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmatov Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Sorry JV, was hoping to skirt that land mine. But since I didn't, I'd like to share that your previous policy of sharing in general terms what you guys were projecting for the future was much appreciated by, at least, myself. I fully realize that things change, especially project timing, still dumping the 'roadmap' is regretted. For example, I have choosen not to make a purchase or two knowing that you folks had certain projects coming along. I assume you dropped this openness with your customers out of frustration with juvenile whining and snarking. Still, it was a feature that I miss. Will be more careful in future to avoid the verbotten End. Regards, William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticBeauty Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'm pretty sure they are working on the Victa Airtourer right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmatov Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Thx Beauty! This is just what I was remembering, but forgetting. A perhaps odd and certainly Digger/Kiwi-centric choice, but as an Orbx product guaranteed to be of high quality and hence very purchasable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Watson Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Not sure what the secret is, the Airtourer has plenty threads previewing it in the screenshot forum, that's if you can find them amongst the open lc bombardment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmatov Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think JV got tired of the kids jumping up and down yelling ' are we there yet, and if not, why not'. Regret his decision, but his choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticBeauty Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think JV got tired of the kids jumping up and down yelling ' are we there yet, and if not, why not'. Regret his decision, but his choice. I think he probably didn't realise that you were just asking what was the next aircraft in development and not for its release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmatov Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 You are probably right Beauty, though I had tried to avoid that. He must be totally fed up, but dumping the roadmap is unfortunate, I found it kind of exciting to have insight on goodies to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticBeauty Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 You are probably right Beauty, though I had tried to avoid that. He must be totally fed up, but dumping the roadmap is unfortunate, I found it kind of exciting to have insight on goodies to come. I agree, it was nice to know what would be coming. It wasn't even necessary to mention when the planned release would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Anticipation of "what's next at ORBX" while frustrating to those with the "McDonald Syndrom" makes checking the forums regularly an interesting adventure for all. As far as 'just asking if an airplane was in the pipeline' you know that it will not end with a simple question. Hi-jacking threads is the norm anymore. John has simply opted to let the team work on the next project and not have to worry about meeting any arbitrary deadline established months earlier and being bombarded by 'I want what I want and I want it now'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Paul has been working on the Airtourer on and off for almost seven years so given its long gestation we are reluctant to offer news about it until it's closer to release. As for our new policy I can assure you it will make little to no impact on our revenues since each product released will stand on its own merits and those who appreciate the quality of our work will likely purchase them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meta Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'd only add that a rough three month heads up might: Generate a buzz. Help people plan the budget. One thing I found helpful on my software projects was to give a strong disclaimer as to "it could take another X months. We don't want to release junk and we won't." I'd hate the rantings of a few take away from a good community. Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triplane Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 As for our new policy I can assure you it will make little to no impact on our revenues since each product released will stand on its own merits and those who appreciate the quality of our work will likely purchase them anyway. One of the harder lessons I learned in my 40 years in the business world is that brand loyalty is hard to earn...and even harder to keep. I would only suggest that communication with the choosers (us) is a big part of that equation. As a general rule, more communication is always better than less...but, it's your company and your call. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmatov Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Paul has been working on the Airtourer on and off for almost seven years so given its long gestation we are reluctant to offer news about it until it's closer to release. As for our new policy I can assure you it will make little to no impact on our revenues since each product released will stand on its own merits and those who appreciate the quality of our work will likely purchase them anyway. Thx JV. All I really wanted to know was what I asked. I knew I had read that there was an a/c in the pipeline, but I just couldn't remember which. As the saying goes, it will be ready when it is ready. As for the new policy, I too doubt it will have any impact on revenues as my experience is that all your products are excellent. The only impact is on customer happiness, at a rather low intensity. Personally, I was pleased to have an idea of what was generally in the pipeline and in what order. For example, seeing that the FTX NA package was scheduled for release by the end of 2014, I chose not to buy the Ultimate X USA and CA packages as I knew once you released your product I would be buying it regardless. And not having been five years old for rather a while I understand what 'scheduled' means. But, enough. Thx for the great products and the great customer service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 People seem to forget that we have a preview forum which will provide quite some lead time on upcoming products once they enter beta, particularly regions which tend to have a beta period of months rather than weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I would rather have it this way when we see previews that we know it is possibly coming in the near future. I will not mention the other company, we probably all know who, they add a new product to their preview thread when it sometimes only has become an idea or is just getting started, then they always have to keep moderating that thread when people keep asking the famous "Whats Happening" question. My only suggestion for the Orbx preview topics is that if something happens that is going to delay the project after these preview screens start being posted, is to provide a quick comment that it is being delayed (if possible provide reason if not that is ok too), we all understand that things in life come up. Then lock that topic so that when we visit we know something is up and discussion ends there. When new previews are posted for that product then we know that it is back on track to being released. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuisong Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Sorry JV, was hoping to skirt that land mine. But since I didn't, I'd like to share that your previous policy of sharing in general terms what you guys were projecting for the future was much appreciated by, at least, myself. I fully realize that things change, especially project timing, still dumping the 'roadmap' is regretted. For example, I have choosen not to make a purchase or two knowing that you folks had certain projects coming along. I assume you dropped this openness with your customers out of frustration with juvenile whining and snarking. Still, it was a feature that I miss. Will be more careful in future to avoid the verbotten End. Regards, William I totally agree with you William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmatov Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Tuisong, GREAT cockpit, I really like it. I have put together something much less ambitious that lacks the isolation element (I have some cats who like to perch nearby) and doesn't look very 'cockpitie'. The governing factor was ergonomics and economy. The right side window area is a cat sprawling space beside a real window. However, I have things almost perfectly place for ease of use for the yoke, throttle quad, mouse and keyboard. Still astonished, and angry, at M$ for bailing out of the flight sim business. It is a niche market, but one willing to pay for it's toys. They are still selling FSX to this day, but P3D is going to end that soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuisong Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Tuisong, GREAT cockpit, I really like it. Thank you. I agree that P3D is the way forward for most of us. I have un-installed FSX and left it well and truly behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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