malibu43 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 FTX Global looks great in a lot of places, but I noticed I'm seeing a lot of green now in places that should be desert. Here are a couple shots of the Grand Canyon to illustrate my point. The first one is with FSX landclass, and the second one is with Scenery Tech NA added. In either case, there are some green "grassy" looking textures showing up. I can't remember what exactly those looked like with regular FSX, but I don't think they looked that green. St George Utah is another place where this issue with too much green can be seen. edit - as I look at my images, I realize I didn't get much of the green in my second screenshot, but trust me - there was more. It's just out of the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulbit Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I totally agree, in some areas, for example Las Vegas and the Nevada desert, it looks totally unrealistic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapsdown Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 FTX Global looks great in a lot of places, but I noticed I'm seeing a lot of green now in places that should be desert. Here are a couple shots of the Grand Canyon to illustrate my point. The first one is with FSX landclass, and the second one is with Scenery Tech NA added. In either case, there are some green "grassy" looking textures showing up. I can't remember what exactly those looked like with regular FSX, but I don't think they looked that green. St George Utah is another place where this issue with too much green can be seen. edit - as I look at my images, I realize I didn't get much of the green in my second screenshot, but trust me - there was more. It's just out of the frame. Thanks man! I thought I was going crazy - this is what I see as well, and posted about it in the General forum (probably a mistake) - this is my screencap just north of KGCN: This is disappointing, and was hoping it was a "bug" as opposed to something OpenLC will have to fix. FTX-Global and base FSX LC's seem to be a poor mix in "desert/dry/arid" areas. Orbx - FTX: Global Order Number: FSS0222547 Order Date: 2013-07-27 For reference, this is my post on this in the General Forum: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/61889-openlc-corrections-of-base-ftxg-american-westsouthwestcolorado/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabnz Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That's why I'm sticking to photoreal scenery for these areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScamp Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Same phenomenon can be seen elsewhere too, this one is form near kabul, picture showing part of my photoreal scenery project for the city vs FTX Global textures surrounding it. Seems like many areas that are quite dry but not total extreme desert like Sahara have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybobmusic Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I noticed the same issue with the "to green" desert textures. I'm sure there will be more tweaks and adjustments to come, so I'm not to worried about it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFlyer Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Same in Palm Desert, CA area. Also, several mis-matched textures (buildings across roads, buildings in the middle of golf course, etc.). But, given the scale of the project, it seems ok for the most part. Still evaluating the value....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoKent Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Doha, Al-Udeid, Masirah Island, Oman, Bahrain....same thing.... Overall, I'm enjoying it, but the desert areas are completely too green.... Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibu43 Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Glad I'm not the only one that noticed it. Hopefully since it's so widespread there will be some global fix vs OpenLC addons. I don't know what landclasses use that texture, but maybe it's as simple as making it a little more golden-yellow and less green. Just an amature guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapsdown Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 So, I switched back momentarily to FSX default, and while this scenery won't win any awards, at least the color palate looks closer to the real world: versus Don't get me wrong, I am on board with FTX-G and waiting to see how it all turns out - just was taken back a bit that desert/dry/arid areas are getting the "green treatment" Chris B. aka "Flapsdown" Orbx - FTX: Global Order Number: FSS0222547Order Date: 2013-07-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark687 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 There seems to be alot of people, including myself, who have the same issue. I loaded up Las Vegas (KLAS) after reading some of these concerns and found that I also see the same exact result. I don't normally fly in the desert regions, so it isn't a huge deal for me at the moment...but I do hope this issue can be remedied soon as it does affect alot of people who do fly in those areas. I trust Orbx will fix this in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoKent Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Apparently, it might be due to landclass--according to JV in another thread, same topic. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapsdown Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Apparently, it might be due to landclass--according to JV in another thread, same topic. K This does indeed seem to be the case, but I think that perhaps others (myself included), were just a bit surprised that the textures being driven by the default FSX land class configuration would be altered so drastically from the FSX textures palate, and that it would have such far reaching effects in other areas. I am looking forward to seeing how OpenLC will help bring these areas back into line... Chris B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoKent Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Chris, I was surprised too to see "emerald green" boxes of lush grass around airports in the middle east...hopefully OpenLC will solve that... Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimo Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 These desert area's look awesome in photoreal try bluesky freeware http://www.blueskyscenery.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE77 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Are people with UTX having the same issue?? I have UTX USA installed, and flying west out of Roswell, NM earlier today looked quite realistic with no green areas until reaching the high mountains of around 6,000 ft. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunju221 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am so disgusted by this issue, I thought ORBX was better than this, i'm not buying ANYTHING from you guys every again! And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. What kind of job is this FOR $91? ! ? Can I get a refund? Because this is outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhuntphx Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. Are these types of threats really necessary? REALLY? What do you possibly think can be accomplished by this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyla1 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am so disgusted by this issue, I thought ORBX was better than this, i'm not buying ANYTHING from you guys every again! And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. What kind of job is this FOR $91? ! ? Can I get a refund? Because this is outrageous. Seriously Newbie, you need to actually read the other forum posts on this issue, such as http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/61992-green-grand-canyon/ , which have legitimate explanatations for this before you spit the dummy. Yours would be one of the most childish posts I've ever seen on this forum. Do your research first, then comment, if you need to champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Actually I won't lock or do anything to this topic because that rant above is a clear example of how NOT to post on our forums. I'll let our own community members deal with that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am so disgusted by this issue, I thought ORBX was better than this, i'm not buying ANYTHING from you guys every again! And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. What kind of job is this FOR $91? ! ? Can I get a refund? Because this is outrageous. What's all that fuss? Why doen't you calm down and try to discuss your problems here in the forum like adults are doing this. Maybe your approach to FTX Global was wrong and your expectations too high? You may see in FTX Global something what it didn't pretend to be. So let's be mature and stay calm Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulbit Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am so disgusted by this issue, I thought ORBX was better than this, i'm not buying ANYTHING from you guys every again! And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. What kind of job is this FOR $91? ! ? Can I get a refund? Because this is outrageous. I am so disgusted to read comments of such nonsense, Believe me you have much more serious problems than of the greenish desert .... Do us a favor.... banned from yourself !! ... and give us a refund for your presence... You are outrageous ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerclaw Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am so disgusted by this issue, I thought ORBX was better than this, i'm not buying ANYTHING from you guys every again! And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. What kind of job is this FOR $91? ! ? Can I get a refund? Because this is outrageous. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be this angry over such an issue. According to your signature, you have only purchased this one product. You can't judge a company based on this initial release of just ONE product. It is my experience that ORBX will get to the bottom of any problems and find a way of correcting them. You say you're "disgusted by this issue". Is this your only concern? Have you flown, and looked around other areas? There's no way you could've flown the whole world yet, it hasn't been out long enough. Are you (and others) comparing FTX Global with the real world, expecting it to be perfect, with everything in it's right place? Look at this for what it is, an enhancement to the DEFAULT FSX. Similar, but not the same as other products like UTX, GEX, FEX and REX. None of which really recreate the real world, but try to make FSX more realistic. I'm not an ORBX groupie by any means, but I know what I like to see when I look out the cockpit window. Global isn't as all singing and all dancing as their dedicated regions and airports, and it's not supposed to be, but it's certainly a far cry from the default FSX. So far I've looked at areas like India, Austria, Switzerland, Norway, France, Germany and Sweden to name but a few. And compared to default FSX, these areas have been much improved. Sure, there may be some issues I've noticed, but nothing worth even mentioning, let alone ranting about. Overall, this product is an excellent upgrade to the default FSX. If you want perfection, you better find the solution to immortality, because nothing is "perfect" in this world. I think you need to seriously grow up, and look at things for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScamp Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am so disgusted by this issue, I thought ORBX was better than this, i'm not buying ANYTHING from you guys every again! And i'll make sure to write all the bad reviews that I can about you guys. What kind of job is this FOR $91? ! ? Can I get a refund? Because this is outrageous. What you should understand is that with default FSX textures there's no perfect solution as for some stupid reason same textures are being used in areas with very different textures by default and non FTX Global made addon landclasses too. You either have too much green in some dry areas or too dry looking terrain in green areas. As green areas cover way more area than these certain dry ones (and FTX Global doesn't have problem with actual deserts like Sahara, they look just fine) it's obviously better to have too much green in some semi dry areas than some of the green areas looking dry and dead like with default FSX and certain other texture replacement programs. ORBX has done their best with this texture replacement product and they have made flying in majority of the world way better than it was before. Now FTX Global compatible OpenLC packs will be what are going to offer even more variation and also fix these green textures in dry areas by replacing them with custom textures that fit the areas better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceridgey Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Well, the troll wins again guys. You don't need to all reply to him. It means that everything has now gone off topic and even ORBX CEO didn't answer the OP question! . Let's keep our heads here gentlemen, obviously a child we're dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 John, you be so bad!!! OK folks let em have it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjpollitt Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 , obviously a child we're dealing with. I wouldnt bet on that. I wouldnt be surprised if there are one or two 'newbies' that are here under a different pretence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoKent Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 The good news gents, is that those of us who are with ORBX for the long haul (I count myself as one) will find or use workarounds for this one issue-- it's really the only non-optimum aspect of FTXG I've seen, except for the crappy DEFAULT FSX landclass--but even that will gradually get better (note I'm not saying perfect here, because that is unrealistic) with the OpenLC regional releases. Kent P.S. Guess I'm just an "ORBX Groupie" at heart.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander071 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 So, I switched back momentarily to FSX default, and while this scenery won't win any awards, at least the color palate looks closer to the real world: *image* versus *image* Don't get me wrong, I am on board with FTX-G and waiting to see how it all turns out - just was taken back a bit that desert/dry/arid areas are getting the "green treatment" Chris B. aka "Flapsdown" Orbx - FTX: Global Order Number: FSS0222547 Order Date: 2013-07-27 How did you revert to the default textures? I tried it as well, but reinstalling GEX or the backup I made with GEX doesn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjallen Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I actually like how FTXG has redone the American SouthWest given the fact that the FSX defaults were so horrible. Wait for the ORBX LC packs before you make a judgement. Regards jja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapsdown Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 How did you revert to the default textures? I tried it as well, but reinstalling GEX or the backup I made with GEX doesn't change anything. I have been switching back and forth by keeping 2 "Texture" folders in "Scenery\World" One named Texture.fsx, one named Texture.ftxg , then just renaming the one I want to use by removing the file suffix before starting FSX Of course, this assumes you made the backup of your texture files when promted by FTX-G, and you have the room on your hard-drive to keep both sets handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibu43 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hey folks. I'm catching up after camping for a few days... So is the official response that the LC addons will be the fix for this? Or has there not been an official response yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Whilst the openLC addons will fix this, we will also see if we can patch some SW USA landclass in the interim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibu43 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 Great! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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