John Venema Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hi all, There was some discussion about if openVFR would work with FTX Global so I got in touch with Markus at openVFR and he provided me with the latest full coverage of Germany, Austria and I also downloaded their freeware Netherlands and Switzerland. They have a lot of coverage in Asia, Africa and South America too. For Germany I installed all three layers; terrain, objects, buildings. What this gives you is a pure OSM-driven version of FTX Global and I found the result quite impressive (in fact I found it hard to stop flying, LOL!) Here are some snaps along my way .. This is their freeware version of the Netherlands without any buildings though. It's not as complex or detailed as Germany but still looks quite ok. You can see Schiphol in the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Cajic Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Looks nice, I like how you can use other addons to enhance the accuracy of the scenery, that's a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lincoln Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Looks fantastic JV can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capnsully Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 OMG that's excellent. OSM driven placement of objects make a massive difference in countries that make good use of OSM, meaning most of Europe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 This looks very,very good indeed! WOW! ...can't wait to go flying over FTX Global! Reading that You also have the Austrian Package available though makes me want to ask: Would it be possible to show some screenshots from Vienna and/or Salzburg and/or any other area You prefer from Austria if it is possible to do so? That would really be great! Cheers, Christoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Excellent Shots John, Open VFR could be the way to go with Global. However, will thier Buildings and Objects (POI) also work with EU England etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poida84 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 wow! impressive maybe that can be my future goal when i get bored of australia eheheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Excellent Shots John, Open VFR could be the way to go with Global. However, will thier Buildings and Objects (POI) also work with EU England etc. There is no point installing openVFR over the top of FTX England, since both do the same thing. You could try adding their buildings layer but without the OSM streets in place it would look odd. openVFR comes into play for all parts of the world where there is no Orbx region yet. Markus tells me their Norway package is really good so that is something to try with FTX Global. openVFR is much like Ultimate Terrain, although openVFR is purely OSM generated whereby UTX is a mixture of various data sources. Both do very good jobs at what they want to do, which is to take the base terrain textures and construct an accurate landclass, vector, roads, and objects layers on top. All of these sort of products really begin to shine once you use a decent texture addon like FTX. It's mostly about the textures, but we go further and add M-tiles so you get really nice joins and transitions between landclass types, plus we add custom trees and vegetation, new road textures, new autogen building textures and of course 3D lighting everywhere. But as people say, the beauty of FTX Global is that you can choose whatever third party addon you want to enhance it. We won't promise an accurate world, but we do promise the best texture pack with extras to use as the basis for a better flight simulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 John, first of all thank you for the nice shot from Berlin! What I see is impressive and I think many user of FTX Global could use these data from openVFR to improve their regions. This may be valid for Non-FTX regions only, but it will improve the patience to wait for the release dates from your side Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric C Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Already saving up the necessary funds for this "Global Goodness", Looks incredible so far, and I like the compatibility with other products to enhance the overall goal of FTX Global. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hi JV What was the Perf like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 No performance issues at all, even with OSM buildings enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 There is no point installing openVFR over the top of FTX England, since both do the same thing. You could try adding their buildings layer but without the OSM streets in place it would look odd. openVFR comes into play for all parts of the world where there is no Orbx region yet. Markus tells me their Norway package is really good so that is something to try with FTX Global. openVFR is much like Ultimate Terrain, although openVFR is purely OSM generated whereby UTX is a mixture of various data sources. Both do very good jobs at what they want to do, which is to take the base terrain textures and construct an accurate landclass, vector, roads, and objects layers on top. All of these sort of products really begin to shine once you use a decent texture addon like FTX. It's mostly about the textures, but we go further and add M-tiles so you get really nice joins and transitions between landclass types, plus we add custom trees and vegetation, new road textures, new autogen building textures and of course 3D lighting everywhere. But as people say, the beauty of FTX Global is that you can choose whatever third party addon you want to enhance it. We won't promise an accurate world, but we do promise the best texture pack with extras to use as the basis for a better flight simulator. Thanks John for the comprehensive answer, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 When FTX Global is out, should we have to do a completely fsx unistall and then reinstall ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Not at all. You just run the installer, it will take care of backing up your current textures and key files, then you simply start a flight anywhere in the world Of course, you'll probably spend some time sorting out various third party landclass and terrain addons to sit on top as well. Although if for example you have UTX Europe or North America installed already, just running the FTX Global installer will give you an instant new Orbx look to everything without needing to do anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Very good , thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 No performance issues at all, even with OSM buildings enabled. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamue Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 No performance issues at all, even with OSM buildings enabled. It's also my experience in Swizerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cheese Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I also just installed last night the OpenVFR terrain, builduings and objects for Switzerland and suffered no loss of frame rate at all. I do have to say however, that this (in my opinion) did not look so great in winter or below say 5-6000 feet, but when I switched to summer and climbed to about 7500 it looked really good. Just sad that the Ostschweiz where I live seems to have missed out on love - no buildings at all placed in Heiden where I live, just the road network, and St. Gallen doesn't get many building either. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 OSM is public domain open-source data and is variable in quality depending on community contributions. In Europe, Germany seems to have the best quality OSM and other countries vary in their quality. OSM will improve over time in other parts of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holi Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Today I gave it a try and yes, no performance issues, which is good. But unfortunately it looks bad with the GEX textures at least at altitudes below 3000 feet. Not because of the OSM data, just the texture..... Therefore, dear JV, is there any light on the horizon about the release of FTX Global?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Therefore, dear JV, is there any light on the horizon about the release of FTX Global?? I've said first half 2013, so please be patient and follow our previews and progress reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre10 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Looks great, but I'm afraid that in many instances we are largely playing already on the edge of 4GB VAS limitation of FSX, so it may very well be that the above beauties will be limited to hang-gliders and some basic planes. Sabre10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd_jay Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I've said first half 2013, so please be patient and follow our previews and progress reports JV, can I ask a small request please, FTX Global is looking better and better all the time in your preview shots. But can you please do a post sometime with comparison shots of FTX Global with and without these other addon products ie: the same shot of FTX Global with and without openVFR Germany. A lot of these products I hadn't heard of before since becoming a fan of ORBX products, so when I'm seeing these preview shots I'm not sure what's adding what visual effect Many thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonnyEnds Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Hey I am eagerly awaiting FTC Global and currently have UTX, ST, openVFR and custom landclasses for certain areas. I see in your sig John that you are running all of these + FSGenesis (I am looking at getting) I have just been running UTX with one addon LC as instructed by UTX. I am just wondering what order and what you enable in your scenery library. Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseJ Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Beautiful scenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lealex84 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Hi. Did someone try "openVFR Autogen" with Ftx Global ? When I download terrain + objects + buildings, will it be the same ? With FTXG is it better to download openVFR mesh or ftxg is enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derfsxpilot Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Will your landclass product be as good as those netherlands shots? Or will it be lesser "detailed" because you cover one whole continent at once ? I have your textures ! now I want them in the right place keep up your great work guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 If you want the Netherlands to be as good as those shots, simply download the free openVFR Netherlands, that's what I used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Hi,I made some quick trials yesterday with FTX Global and OpenVFR over Switzerland. I notice the more vector data are accurate the less there are buildings in urban area. For example anytime a road crosses a neighbourhood, houses and buildings which are set disappear. The down town looked better with FTXG alone. So I wonder if that issue occurs with any additional landclass and if there is a way to prevent that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Most vector addons allow you to disable the "urban streets" layer which reduces the FSX vector roads and how they can supress autogen. Check with the openVFR website, forums or documentation - there could well be a way to reduce the density of those streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derfsxpilot Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 If you want the Netherlands to be as good as those shots, simply download the free openVFR Netherlands, that's what I used. that was not my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holi Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Do you think this is the right attitude to ask questions? What about reading the relevant manual, or give it a try and find out by your own? Just my 3 cents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derfsxpilot Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Do you think this is the right attitude to ask questions? What about reading the relevant manual, or give it a try and find out by your own? Just my 3 cents! I just asked if the orbx lc will be as good as the vfr stuff, since orbx offers continents and openvfr countries. What´s the problem with that question? John didn´t answered my question directly, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
European Mountain Man Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi John is this openvfr Autogen because I have several areas of Europe , Italy , Switzerland , Belgium , Netherlands will this work with FTXG . And thanks for FTXG I was blown away . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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