Uglyspirit Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 P3d 4.5 installed Global base, vector and all landclass packages from Orbx plus specific sceneries for UK,Norway and USA (so shouldn't affect Russia?) Never taken a flight ovr Moscow before and was dismayed to see Red square buildings sitting atop the main river and another part of red square hovering above the ground...i'm presuming Vector has done this especially in regards to placement of river..is this a known issue or unique to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hello, if that is what you see, you do not have Vector active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, if that is what you see, you do not have Vector active. I have vector installed and up to date.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hello, here is the problem. In default FSX/P3D, the representation of Red Square is, to say the least, somewhat misplaced. Here is the aircraft in default P3D Here is where it is in Google Earth Here it is using Vector and here is Google Earth From your post, I guess that you are not seeing the same as I do in the Vector shot and of course, I cannot see any of the 223 scenery library entries above the ones that you have shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Well mine certainly looks nothing like that....scenery on extreme dense..in winter...with global and vector and lc Europe installed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Syncing Orbx central made no difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Interesting my scenery looks nothing like yours.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Indeed it does not. I suspect that you either have something else that is adding back its own version of Moscow, or that for some reason, your version of P3D is not excluding the default and very much misplaced second version. If you remove the items I have highlighted, yours looks much the same as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 So yes I have two red squares. This is a re install of p3d 4.5- I followed the recommended instructions to uninstall P3D and delete remaining folders plus also uninstalled all orbx software and FTX Central and the reinstalled everything from scratch this time using Orbx central to install all scenery as a separate library outside the sim (apart from Global base and libraries)…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 So it seems I have a duplication of landmarks in Moscow- perhaps I need to check out other European cities...cant think why this would occur on a fresh install of P3D and only using orbx scenery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 Anybody have any ideas how I can get rid of this duplicated scenery? I have checked Paris , another Euro city and that looked ok. Ive verified files on Base, Euro LC and vector and the only thing that re downloaded was Euro LC. I only use Orbx scenery so no other thing messing with my install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Hello, as Nick said it is possibly the default Moscow bleeding through, you could try moving that out of the folder and start the Sim to check. Looking at you pics of your scenery library, it is not setup correctly, Base files should be well below your Orbx scenery, not near the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 Sorry to resurrect my old thread... Whilst I appreciate Nick in particular who is always on hand with help....I'm getting quite annoyed with being told my scenery library is not set up correctly. This was a fresh install of P3D V4 , Orbx only scenery (no other 3rd party) all installed through Orbx Central... It seems that these products aren't fit for purpose or at least the installer/orbx central isn't ...some of us don't have time to tweak into the minute of our flight sims...we just wanna fly. I'm sorry but I haven't been able to bring myself to buy anymore Orbx products since I found out how screwed everything might be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Hello, can you try renaming Scenery\EURE\Moscow.bgl to Moscow.bgx please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Where have you set your Insertion Point for Orbx scenery in Orbx Central? Can you send a screenshot of that please as it looks to be set below the base sim layers whereas it should be higher up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Thanks Ed, I should have spotted that, especially as we have just fixed Frankfurt in another topic the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hello, the insertion point is default as set by Central , ive never changed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B77X Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 12/8/2019 at 1:20 PM, Uglyspirit said: I have vector installed and up to date.... Library order incorrect. Move Africa above Orbx Vector entries Orbx Vector entries layering order: OBJ FixedAPT APT CVX EXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglyspirit Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Thanks for the suggestion B77X, but it doesn't really address the real issue....why is Orbx Central putting the scenery layers in the wrong place on a fresh install with no other 3rd party scenery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I am not so sure that it is. The Vector order is correct and your problem has nothing to do with where Africa is. the default Red Square is in "Eastern Europe" in the scenery library. What happens if you comply with my request in post 14? What is immediately above your Orbx Libraries scenery library entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Quote I am not so sure that it is. The Vector order is correct and your problem has nothing to do with where Africa is. the default Red Square is in "Eastern Europe" in the scenery library. What happens if you comply with my request in post 14? What is immediately above your Orbx Libraries scenery library entry? Have renamed - nothing to see of Moskow - only default buildings. What I noticed is that when disabling ORBX global OpenLC Erope duplicates are excluded, but they are in the wrong place. With ORBX und Without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Hello, as before, I cannot replicate this at all. With open LC Europe and Vector enabled, I see this: If I disable Scenery\EURE\Scenery\Moscow.bgl, which contains the default model, I see this: Logic would suggest that anyone seeing two versions of the Red Square must, somewhere, have a second model that should not be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 12/15/2019 at 7:26 PM, Smudger said: apart from default i only have the products from orbx and i just reinstalled everything. Where is the mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 If the error is somewhere in the library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 You could try disabling all your other addon scenery and see if you still have two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Nope, disabled all foreign addons, but no changes to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hello, can you go to scenery\0701\scenery and rename ORB58120.bgl to ORB58120.bgx. Then put the attached file in its place and see what happens please? OBX58120.bgl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 First of all thank you for your support Nick. Unfortunately data exchange did not bring any changes. I hope you won't give up and continue to support me and the others who are affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Hello, that is odd, as the files are not the same. Can you check the exact file size in kb of the original file please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I think I have found the solution! OBX58120.bgl from the folder C:\Users\"User"\Orbx Library\p3dv4\Global openLC Europe\Scenery\0701\scenery copy and save in the C:\Prepar3D v4\Scenery\0701\scenery replace the existing one (save default file before doing so). It worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Good, can you show me a copy of the add-on.xml file that you will find in the same C:\Users\"User"\Orbx Library\p3dv4\Global openLC Europe\Scenery\0701\scenery folder please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 add-on.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabel Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Thanks, Nick, for your help. Without your tips I would not have found the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I think that this has exposed a problem that was not evident. If your experience is not unique, then the OBX58120.bgl file in the Orbx Library is not working as it should. It should be making P3D v4 use it instead of the default OBX58120.bgl file but for you, apparently it is not. As I have not been able to replicate this but we have identified another anomaly with the same cause, I am referring this back to the Orbx Central developers. I do not forsee a problem with Orbx Central itself but a possible problem with the way that P3D v4 is working, subject of course to the apparent contradiction that I cannot replicate the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alihor Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 2/2/2020 at 9:23 PM, Nick Cooper said: in post 14 Hi Nick, I firstly wish you a healthy New Year. I had the same problem in Moscow with two stadiums. Now after your advices the duplicates have disappeared. But some Moscow buildings are located in the middle of river Wolga. Are there new Moscow updates available? And you mentioned "post 14". I have no numbers in this thread. Where is "post 14" ? Btw: I have also a very fresh P3D installation and Orbx scenery. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 hello, each time there is a forum update, some things revert back to where they were and unfortunately, the post numbers have been the victim of the latest update. I think it must be this one: It looks like you still have two stadiums, one in the right place and one in the river, which has been corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alihor Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Sorry misunderstanding: no more two stadiums, but now one in the river, after replacing the OBX58120.bgl file. My pictures are in the wrong sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Got it, it looks like the wrong one has been put back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbs73 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I had the same issue. Looks like all Moscow landmarks and standiums were duplicated. Coping the OBX58120.bgl file fixed it for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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