kdfw Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 i see this on both fsx and p3dv4, the ground texture immediately around the airport flips dark as approaching it as shown in the attached screen shot. it's as if there's a dark overlay. using orbx socal with new ksan. mesh 5m and ksan config is set for socal scenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiFlyer Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yup. The textures constantly switch between a darker and lighter one as the plane passes over. I've just been chalking it up to P3D and ignoring it, but it would be nice if there was a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdfw Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 You will need to wait for the developer to respond to this one. I have sent him a message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo Veneziani Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hi, you see the different colour of the photoreal because are two different photoreals. I have to take a look if i can do something. Cheers, Matteo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandalder Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I would completely do away with the dark overlay of the whole KSAN scenery, it's just not looking right. Can you not make the entire scenery brighter? Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdfw Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 i would think that since ksan dev can use the same photoreal source as the socal photoreal source (same company), this would be a straight forward compatibility patch. or just shrink the ksan airport footprint so it will not overlap the socal photoreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdfw Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 10:13 AM, Matteo Veneziani said: Hi, you see the different colour of the photoreal because are two different photoreals. I have to take a look if i can do something. Cheers, Matteo any progress/decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandalder Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 They seem to ignore us and it's the same with the other recent KSAN thread realting to CTD. I am not happy with the product and think I will ask for a refund. Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Roland. Do you mean by "ignore", answer the topic, contact the developer, the developer replies and undertakes to take action to remedy the alleged fault? As you can see, this topic has been answered but the solution has not yet been published. If you wish to make a similarly negative and unjustifiable comment on the subject of a CTD, please do so in that topic which is unrelated to the subject of this one. If you wish to apply for a refund, please do so using the ticket system. You will need to be ready to justify your request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo Veneziani Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi, I don't ingnore anyone, I saw the problem and when i can, i will do an update. Regards, Matteo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandalder Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi Matteo, And when do you think you can? Days, weeks or months? Thank you Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandalder Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hi Matteo, It would be helpful if you could give us an estimate about when the update will be ready. Will it be in a month or so or does it take longer? Of course you can do it whenever you find the time. I just like to know because should the update be weeks away I will go back to Latin VFR's KSAN and ask ORBX for a refund and repurchase your KSAN once it's up to ORBX standards. Many thanks for your understanding. Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Refund Good luck with that. I also bought KSAN and didn't like it and just moved on. Hopefully when there is a update I will try it again. Its all subjective as some just love it and others don't. Hang in there they will get it right eventually. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woogey Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 To those who may know, When I heard that ORBX would be releasing KSAN and the greater San Diego area, I eagerly waited for every new post showing screenshots. I was a day 1 customer of the NA Gold SCA product, and a further detailed San Diego would only make this area that much better....... right? Well, yes and no. While there are many good points to this Airport/Skyline scenery, there are also some drawbacks. ORBX added some nice detail with the original release of SCA, but the KSAN product replaces all of those jewels with less detailed lower resolution objects, and PR. Some quick examples are: NAS North Island PR, Coronado Naval Base PR, the North Island bridge, and Point Loma PR are much higher Resolution in the SCA product than in the San Diego product. I also prefer the More Green coloring of the Golf Courses in the SCA product. I have to theorize that this lowering of resolution was done as a method to try "optimize" performance in the sim. My question is: has anyone found a way Choose these higher res areas and objects instead of the lower res versions? To any ORBX staff that may read this post, Is there any plan to standardize the two products so that there is no "double coverage" of objects and PR for San Diego? Sincerely, Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbague1 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 To those who may know, When I heard that ORBX would be releasing KSAN and the greater San Diego area, I eagerly waited for every new post showing screenshots. I was a day 1 customer of the NA Gold SCA product, and a further detailed San Diego would only make this area that much better....... right? Well, yes and no. While there are many good points to this Airport/Skyline scenery, there are also some drawbacks. ORBX added some nice detail with the original release of SCA, but the KSAN product replaces all of those jewels with less detailed lower resolution objects, and PR. Some quick examples are: NAS North Island PR, Coronado Naval Base PR, the North Island bridge, and Point Loma PR are much higher Resolution in the SCA product than in the San Diego product. I also prefer the More Green coloring of the Golf Courses in the SCA product. I have to theorize that this lowering of resolution was done as a method to try "optimize" performance in the sim. My question is: has anyone found a way Choose these higher res areas and objects instead of the lower res versions? To any ORBX staff that may read this post, Is there any plan to standardize the two products so that there is no "double coverage" of objects and PR for San Diego? Sincerely, Preston I just use latin VFR KSAN with Southern Cal and it works wonderfullySent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woogey Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Let me be clear, KSAN is a great product that adds a very large area of PR, and just about every house and building in the Valley along with Many, Many custom objects. All of this as a bonus to the airport itself. I would just prefer to have the Hi-rez PR of NA Gold SCA show up at a higher priority level than the large area/lower rez PR of the city product. I am am looking for a way to make this happen. Is there a magical setting combination in the control panel? I own FTX Global, NA Landclass, NA Gold SCA, and KSAN. -Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woogey Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If you Gentlemen have a close look, the "darker Photoreal" is actually much higher resolution. I actually prefer this over the PR that comes with KSAN. The higher res PR comes as part of the SCA product. Matteo Veneziani, when you get a chance to tackle this issue, please could you find a way to Color match your San Diego area PR to the existing SCA product? Or at least, increase the resolution in Downtown? My definition of Downtown would be the South end of Coronado NS to The Point Loma Penninsula at the North end. Then all of North Island to the edge of the sky Scrapers on the east side. I really love that High Deginition PR that comes with SCA and the Greeness of the golf courses on North Island. I have been trying my hardest to figure out how to make that show above the Greater area KSAN Photo Real for a while now. Shoot, I'd even pay for an "upgraded" HD pack if you could make that happen somehow? I really do like the KSAN Product. There are just a couple of "tweaks" I would love to see implemented. Overall, you did a beautiful job! Sincerely, Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I complained about KSAN when it first came out months ago. Mostly I complained about the lack of color in the autogen white buildings. It looks incredibly unreal. I asked the dev if he would be making an update. He said he'd think about it. So far no update. I finally bought and installed it and am sorry. It is currently uninstalled. I've purchased maybe 100 Orbx products and KSAN is the only one I regret buying. There are freeware buildings and the airport at flightsim. I should have just installed those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandalder Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Woogey said: please could you find a way to Color match your San Diego area PR to the existing SCA product That's exactly what I mean and I don't think we are asking for too much... Since Matteo's KSAN is an ORBX product buyers I have expected it to match their SCA region in color and brightness. Strangely enough, the non ORBX Latin VFR KSAN fits in perfectly. Best, Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo Veneziani Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Hi, I have planned an update for KSAN, which will include PR color correction, custom ground vehicles and some other improvements. Unfortunately is not possible to have more PR definition for FULL San Diego area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I have merged the two topics on this subject. Please allow Matteo time to address this. Constant repetitive posts will not make this happen any faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo Veneziani Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I want to do a good job with the improvements,according to yours suggestions, I would like to point out that it is very complex and large scenery, so do NOT expect this update within weeks, months are more realistic, for example first quarter of 2018. Regards, Matteo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woogey Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Thank you Matteo, I for one really appreciate your initial efforts. One aspect I really liked was the fact that you cut out the images of the Ships next to their piers at the Naval Station. I use a great Ai ship addon that inserts every single US Navy ship into the sim with realistic routes and schedules. There is nothing that I hate more than to see these ships come into port, and park on top of a 2d boat that is part of the imagery. Thank you for your approach on this one little aspect of the scenery. -Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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