chumley Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I plan to purchase a SSD for FSX exclusive use. Do I need to do anything special: before I install while installing after I install I've been heraing about a thing called TRIM and garbage collection (or something similar) - what is this all about? Thanks Andy b Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marka Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 The only thing I did was to enable ACHI mode in the bios before installing the OS on it. Other than that, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgruschow Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Well I just installed the SSD, partitioned it into 2 drives and loaded the programs. Did nothing else, just inserted two plugs. I've heard talk of Trim, but I haven't the faintest idea what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtrack Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 You can not defragment an SSD drive in the same way you do with conventional drives. TRIM is a means of organising files on the SSD drive. Without TRIM, over a period of time. Your lightening fast SSD will slow down and the only way to restore its original pristine working condition is with a full format....followed by a complete reinstall, until the next time. Personally I think the technology is just a little too young and needs to mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 No No, In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM for a greater understanding. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 No No, In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM for a greater understanding. M. BINGO! Andy, are you planning on installing OS and FSX or just FSX on the ssd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaestro Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 marka is correct on the AHCI mode - the hard drive BIOS option is often set to 'compatibility mode', and you'll want to change this. It needs to be done before you install the OS, if you don't and try to do it after you'll have some problems. Not particularly difficult problems, but it's much easier to just do it before the install. And on TRIM, as others have said it tells the SSD what it can garbage collect without any user intervention. When I bought my SSD eight or nine months back the Intel Matrix Storage driver did not support TRIM, which meant you did not want to install it. This is fine because the default Windows driver works perfectly and does support TRIM. There's a good chance that this isn't a problem anymore, that Intel have included the TRIM functionality now, so have a look around to see what the deal is now. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumley Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 No No, In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM for a greater understanding. M. BINGO! Andy, are you planning on installing OS and FSX or just FSX on the ssd? Must have been asleep and missed this one. Only plan on installing FSX on the drive. Thanks Andy b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Then all you have to do is copy the FSX folder to the SSD and rename the drive. That IMHO is a waste of money. Keep in mind that the SSD will only perform slightly better than your previous drive. AHCI mode will render much better performance, but you will need one more SSD for the OS and you will need to install AHCI driver before you set the mode in the bios as explained here: http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/ If you keep all the drives in IDE mode you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fairy Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Then all you have to do is copy the FSX folder to the SSD and rename the drive. That IMHO is a waste of money. Keep in mind that the SSD will only perform slightly better than your previous drive. AHCI mode will render much better performance, but you will need one more SSD for the OS and you will need to install AHCI driver before you set the mode in the bios as explained here: http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/ If you keep all the drives in IDE mode you should be fine. correct that si why I opted to go straight for the 256 and installed OS and FSX all on the same drive. Eliminating any bottlenecks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Then all you have to do is copy the FSX folder to the SSD and rename the drive. That IMHO is a waste of money. Keep in mind that the SSD will only perform slightly better than your previous drive. AHCI mode will render much better performance, but you will need one more SSD for the OS and you will need to install AHCI driver before you set the mode in the bios as explained here: http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/ If you keep all the drives in IDE mode you should be fine. correct that si why I opted to go straight for the 256 and installed OS and FSX all on the same drive. Eliminating any bottlenecks Very good move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainneedle1 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Then all you have to do is copy the FSX folder to the SSD and rename the drive. That IMHO is a waste of money. Keep in mind that the SSD will only perform slightly better than your previous drive. AHCI mode will render much better performance, but you will need one more SSD for the OS and you will need to install AHCI driver before you set the mode in the bios as explained here: http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/ If you keep all the drives in IDE mode you should be fine. correct that si why I opted to go straight for the 256 and installed OS and FSX all on the same drive. Eliminating any bottlenecks Sorry for peeing on your parade but to eliminate any bottleneck (as you stated) from the SSD you will need a PCI-e SSD card....you still dealing with sata bottleneck as of now... open the link and read the description of the PCI-e card... http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid-state-drives/pci-express/revodrive/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express-ssd-.html No No, In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM for a greater understanding. M. It's called Garbage collection.....that's what you need when buying a GOOD SSD ....scroll down to where they are talking about garbage collection here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(SSD)#Garbage_collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fairy Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sorry for peeing on your parade but to eliminate any bottleneck (as you stated) from the SSD you will need a PCI-e SSD card....you still dealing with sata bottleneck as of now... open the link and read the description of the PCI-e card... http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid-state-drives/pci-express/revodrive/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express-ssd-.html yes your holy highness.. no need to be bloody rude ! your wife on your case again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainneedle1 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sorry for peeing on your parade but to eliminate any bottleneck (as you stated) from the SSD you will need a PCI-e SSD card....you still dealing with sata bottleneck as of now... open the link and read the description of the PCI-e card... http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid-state-drives/pci-express/revodrive/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express-ssd-.html yes your holy highness.. no need to be bloody rude ! your wife on your case again? LOL sorry I was not trying to be rude.......sometimes I come across the wrong way...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 If we really want to eliminate the bottleneck, we need a 10ghz CPU. That should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek McAllan Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Sorry for peeing on your parade but to eliminate any bottleneck (as you stated) from the SSD you will need a PCI-e SSD card....you still dealing with sata bottleneck as of now... open the link and read the description of the PCI-e card... http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid-state-drives/pci-express/revodrive/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express-ssd-.html yes your holy highness.. no need to be bloody rude ! your wife on your case again? Now THAT is rude, and offensive to boot. There was nothing wrong with Alain's useful and informative reply. Get your head out of the gutter mate. Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainneedle1 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Gentlemens... this was just an honest misunderstanding ....everything's cool....let's keep exchanging good idea between us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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