Frankie_2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hey there, I was about to start a trip from Sekiu, but there are quite a lot of trees missing, unfortunately. I figure it could be somehow related to my upgrade to Prepar3D v4.4 a few weeks ago. What I did so far: verified files for ftx Trees HD, PNW, ftx Global Base and 11S Sekiu verified files for the Orbx Libraries forced migration once again Any ideas for a solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie123 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Did you try deleting your Shaders folder and letting it re-build at start-up? (Recommended by Poppet) Re-installing the HD Trees package (not just verifying) was all I had to do when I upgraded to V4.4. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 I believe the issue has something to do with the autogen configuration, but I just re-installed Trees HD and deleted the shaders just to make sure. Didn't help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 Alright, just noticed I'm not the only one: orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/166860-11s-sekiu-missing-trees is this bug already reported to LM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 I'd like to bring this back up since Prepar3D v4.5 did not solve the issue. My transaction ID is #584142073c580, btw. Additionally, I experience the issue in Vernonia and Israel's Farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 A small heads-up in this issue. It appears the cause of this problem may be some missing autogen definitions since there are only particular parts of the autogen trees not showing up. While I experience no issues at Skagit, Concrete and Darrington, trees are missing at Israel's Farm and on the landclass scenery as well. I have created an image post over at Imgur, please find it over here: https://imgur.com/a/3uKHG5B Trees missing partially near Skagit: Trees missing partially at WA56: I have reinstalled PNW several times using ftx Central v3 and Orbx Central. Furthermore, I have reinstalled P3D v4.5 Client and Content and I have fully removed PTA in order to rule out any interference with the shaders. @Pidder has also reported similar issues at Vernonia, Sekiu and Israel's Farm. Darrington, Anacortes and Diamond Point appear fine to him, though. Since I do not own Anacortes and Diamond Point, I cannot confirm this on my system. But I believe we have come a bit closer to isolate the cause. Looking forward to any ideas that could lead to a solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Hello, is this a possible problem with Orbx Central and migrated products or is it also there with FTX Central? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 Hello Nick, I'm having those issues since January/February 2019 so they are definitely not related to Orbx Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Thanks. I read in one of the other topics that if one flies into Sekiu, then the trees are there but if one loads there, they are not. Is that the case here also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayD Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi Frank and Nick, I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I am seeing the same thing globally. Ie. sections of photoreal with no trees - exactly like Frank's pictures above. I have just done a complete reinstall of P3D v4.5.1 and reinstalled Orbx Global, U.S and Europe LC's and AU V2 using FTX3. Seeing it everywhere. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidder Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 As Frank wrote above i've the same issues in Sekiu, Vernonia and Israels Farm. I'm using FTX-Central v3 and P3D v4.5. Sekiu: Israels Farm: Vernonia: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Thanks. I read in one of the other topics that if one flies into Sekiu, then the trees are there but if one loads there, they are not. Is that the case here also? I haven't tried this yet, will do later if I find time. 8 hours ago, MurrayD said: Hi Frank and Nick, I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I am seeing the same thing globally. Ie. sections of photoreal with no trees - exactly like Frank's pictures above. I have just done a complete reinstall of P3D v4.5.1 and reinstalled Orbx Global, U.S and Europe LC's and AU V2 using FTX3. Seeing it everywhere. Cheers. It appears that my issue is globally as well. I have just checked the Frankfurt area and there are missing trees as well. Maybe we can get some autogen definition pros taking a look at this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hello Frank, in your first image, there is an airport using a photo insert which is of course suppressing all autogen. Your second image seems to show a village with autogen houses and trees in the distance, so I don't see a problem in either screen shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Pidder said: As Frank wrote above i've the same issues in Sekiu, Vernonia and Israels Farm. I'm using FTX-Central v3 and P3D v4.5. Hello Markus, I don't see your images which are hosted at a site that requires membership and a log in. However, here are my images. P3D v4.5 FTX Central used to install, Orbx Central used with no migrations. Sekiu: Israels Farm: Vernonia: So I must conclude that the problem is neither intrinsic nor universal, or of course that your images that I cannot see are of something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello Frank, in your first image, there is an airport using a photo insert which is of course suppressing all autogen. Your second image seems to show a village with autogen houses and trees in the distance, so I don't see a problem in either screen shot. Hey Nick, you may be right for the first issue concerning the airport. However, I believe the missing autogen is caused by some corrupted autogen-definition. I have looked for some screenshots taken shortly after the release of Germany South and have just taken a new bunch of images. As the comparison shows, there is ample evidence that a whole sort of trees is missing. Settings are exactly the same except the PTA preset. Not only does the area around the TV tower look extremely bald, but you can also see missing vegetation in the upper left corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidder Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello Markus, I don't see your images which are hosted at a site that requires membership and a log in. Sorry, Nick. Here are my screenshots from Sekiu, Israels Farm and Vernonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayD Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi Nick, This is AUV2 (near Bathurst). You can see squares of photoreal with no trees: This is near Charlotte USA: Seeing exactly the same as Frank at Frankfurt and other places. As stated, I've just done a full reinstall of P3D V4.5.1, and have installed Orbx Global, OpenLC (both U.S and Europe), Trees (both Orbx and Turbulent) and AU v2 using FTX V3. No vector. I note also that every time I verify these files, they download gigabytes of files again in the case of Open LC's, and 450MB with Global. I don't know why it would do that given nothing has changed? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 7:48 PM, Nick Cooper said: Hello, is this a possible problem with Orbx Central and migrated products or is it also there with FTX Central? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayD Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: For me, it's FTX Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Thanks, it's late here, I'll have another look tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Thanks for your effort, Nick! I have also noted that it's not only the trees which are missing (for me), but also the small houses/sheds in the lower right corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPL19 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 For what it is worth I had the issue at Israel's Farm, I traced my issue back to 3rd party VLC Libraries (from Godzone I believe). Not sure where the conflict is, but, disabling that seemed to do the trick for me. Not sure if this is the same thing. This pre-dated the new ORBX Central for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayD Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 5:52 AM, Helifan123 said: 4 hours ago, JPL19 said: For what it is worth I had the issue at Israel's Farm, I traced my issue back to 3rd party VLC Libraries (from Godzone I believe). Not sure where the conflict is, but, disabling that seemed to do the trick for me. Not sure if this is the same thing. This pre-dated the new ORBX Central for me. Thanks for the post Joe. That seems to have been the culprit for me too! I have deleted VLC libraries and now have trees again. I hope this works for Frank. Thanks for your help. EDIT: I just checked the Godzone forum and sure enough...... http://nzff.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28960&sid=1eb24fa46c8a09dfb6cb4bfe595a2e4b Solution included in that post, but Rob states that you need to add an 'off' extension to the default.xml found in VectorLandClass\VLC_Libraries\AutogenX (wherever VLC libraries are installed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Great to hear that you could sort out the issue! Unfortunately, I don't the VLC libraries installed for quite a while now so there is nothing left I could deactivate. However, I'm just doing a reinstall of ftx Germany after I have discovered the missing autogen there yesterday. Let's see if that'll help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hello, I have not forgotten but am awaiting further developments from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 No worries, Nick. Unfortunately, a full reinstall of Orbx Germany North/South did not help either for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidder Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 And unfortunatly a complete uninstall of Godzone NZCH did not help either for my issue in Sekiu 11S: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toprob Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Sorry I missed this thread. Murray has posted a link to the solution above. This affects Prepar3d v4.5 users only. (It may also affect v4.4, but I am not able to test that.) Uninstalling Godzone NZCH won't fix this, as the VLC Libraries are separate, and come with their own uninstaller. (these libraries are shared by a number of NZ scenery packages.) Simply deleting the offending file (...VectorLandClass\VLC_Libraries\AutogenX\default.xml) will fix this. Further details available in Murray's link above. I do apologise to all those affected, my changes to remove the need for the Autogen Description Merger Tool resulted in the default.xml (autogen library objects) not displaying. There will be a new VLC Libraries installer shortly, which will fix this automatically, but just deleting the one file is a quick and easy manual fix. I really did believe that the new Prepar3d support for add-on.xml autogen worked for all autogen descriptions, but it seems that it doesn't include autogen library objects. This was not picked up by my testers, as it is tricky to spot -- they were testing my NZCH scenery area, which doesn't include any default ot third party (such as Orbx) library objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Many thanks for that. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidder Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I'm back from holidays and did a checkflight in 11S Sekiu: the trees are back!! Thank you very much!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee H Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Odd, I just did the above steps, but my 11S trees are still missing. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-Sauce Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Same here, also missing trees in Australian airports. Renamed the offending GodZone VLC file, but it did not fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keino333 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 3:34 PM, M-Sauce said: Same here, also missing trees in Australian airports. Renamed the offending GodZone VLC file, but it did not fix the problem. Follow all the instructions not just renaming but deactivate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keino333 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 all your trees will return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-Sauce Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 hours ago, keino333 said: Follow all the instructions not just renaming but deactivate Hi Keino Sorry, a bit too vague for me. Are you referring to the instructions linked in this post? https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/167162-trees-missing-at-11s-sekiu/?tab=comments#comment-1555813 All I could find by reading the whole thread was to deactivate the offending file by renaming to "OFF"; Quote You can simply delete the 'default.xml' file in the AutogenX folder, but to be safe maybe just disable it -- I just add a '.off' extension to the filename, so it becomes 'default.xml.off'. So not sure I understand what other instruction I should follow. Can you explain what you meant? Thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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