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Glad you got the money shot

Very glad I saw these XP12 related posts. I have been hovering over the 'Purchase' button for the several remaining XP11 TE products and related airports for some days now, but now I know for sure to hold off any further purchases in case I have to re-buy them for XP12 when released. XP12 with my 'dragged over' TE (from my now removed XP11) is the most impressive simming experience I have had in 40 years of simming. TE looks stunning in XP12, even though it is not yet optimised or updated for the new scenery elements that XP12 allows, and will become even better. This really excites me, and I'm so looking forward to this. Yes, like many, I do have MSFS with (a few thousand dollars of) extras, and enjoy the eye-candy and play with it, but my new simming home is now XP12. Orbx TE is more than a match for the eye-candy, IMO. So there are more Orbx purchases for me down the line. And of course Beta = 'Be Patient', so I'm happy to wait.

Thought I'd also add - I have 64 Gb DDR4, and run a RAMDisk drive, that I can re-size on the fly. All my software installations are done from the RAMDisk, and are super, super fast. So, for the 23 GB P3Dv5.1 HF install, I temporarily increased the RAMDisk to 32 GB then decompressed and installed from there. Reduced the size back to 12 GB after. I have my Windows TEMP and Firefox cache and Windows page file also set to the RAMDisk. It autoboots with parameters and folders on startup. Saves a lot of SSD wiriting and even the slowest memory is way faster than the fastest drive. PS. My RAMDisk is set as drive R\ and appears in Windows Explorer.

@B12 Have you looked at the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master (v1.1)? This is the board I want, but is unavailable in Australia, so I got a B550 Aorus Master. Biggest feature for me is having 3x M.2 slots and good sound. Sound is important to me as I've lossless digitised all my music and run the sound to a USB Hifi DAC then valve amplifier and speakers, with Foobar 2000 as my player. Sound quality really matters to me [hifi fan]. The downside of running 3x simultaneous M.2 sticks on B550 is that they run at PCie 3.0 and not PCie 4.0. So, I got a Firecuda 510 2 Tb which runs at 3500 MB/s PCie 3.0 and not the Firecuda 520 that runs at 5000 MB/s in PCie 4.0. The graphics runs at PCie 4.0 though, so I will be golden with the 6800XT. Maybe, maybe at the time, I could stretch for a 6900XT, but there would need to be a noticeable improvement over the 6800XT at 4K in both P3D and MSFS to be worth it for me. I gather on X570 Aorus Master, you can run at PCie 4.0 simultaneously 2x M.2 and the Gx at PCie 4.0 My system has 3x M.2 drives, 8Tb and 2x 6Tb HDDs, 2x 1 Tb SSDs At least the M.2 slots lie quietly under your 3090 and won't get in the road of anything.

Really glad I'm not going through the waiting/fingernail biting like you guys are. Well done B12, at getting a 3090, and Donka, I hope a 6800XT has your name on it soon. The latest updates for P3Dv5.1 HF and MSFS are working really well with my old 8Gb GTX 1080 - solid 30 fps in both MSFS and P3D (easy 60 fps if not limited to 30) with World sliders fully maxed (P3D) and 4K Custom Ultra in MSFS - all scenery detail maxed but all 'Junk' settings off or min - eg no Lens Flare, Window effects, Icing etc. In P3D I now only fly in TE HD regions plus AUv2 and NZ and find this as graphically satisfying as MSFS. Plus I have all my high detail planes. So, still mostly P3D for me. I'll wait for supply to ease in the New Year, and get a 6800XT which will cure my graphics bottleneck. Some YouTubes show that the 3080 and 3090, at 4K Ultra do a bit better in MSFS than the 6800XT, but the difference is minor. Having 16 Gb VRAM is what I'm after, and is more important to me than a frame or 2. Of course, B12, you are laughing with 24 Gb. I know why nVidia is green - the colour of abject jealousy! Keep posting, guys, I'm enjoying it all.

I am vicariously enjoying your process of decision, buying and build of your new sim boxes. FWIW, I'm a totally satisfied 3900X user, and as the frame counter in MSFS Developer menu tells me, I'm GPU limited. Still got plenty of CPU grunt. Your 5000 series will be just awesome. The Gx is my next upgrade, and this decision is easy - the new AMD GPUs are 16 Gb, and not the 8 or 10 Gb of the very capable and brilliant nVidia 3000 cards. (except the unaffordable for me 3090) Many found the 11 Gb VRam of a 2080 Ti in max detail flight simming, was not always enough. I know my 8 Gb 1080 didn't have enough for max detail in the densest areas. When you max out the VRam, suddenly sim goes POOF! It looks like the new nVidia and Radeon cards are in a similar league - little bits ahead and behind, but similar. The extra VRam is what makes the Radeon cards better for flight simming, coz for max detail simming at 4K, nVidia 10 Gb won't always be enough.

Roger, thank you. I am mighty obliged for this clear wallk through, and it is helping get my first good screenshot post up tonight.

I learn more and more. When I upgraded to P3Dv5, I noticed that there was no YSCH - the old Orbx ICAO for Coffs Harbour - but it did have the current and correct ICAO of YCFS. FWIW, I moved all my Orbx files from the \p3dv4 folder that Central created in my off sim Library folder, to the new \p3dv5 folder created by Central for (obviously) P3Dv5. Only the products that show up in Central are those currently updated to be v5 compatible and that happily is most of Orbx products. Even though the YSCH folder was copied over verbatim to \p3dv5 and doesn't show up in Central while awaiting update, when I set the sim to take off from YCFS, there, to my pleasure was all my beautiful Orbx YSCH Coffs scenery to fly in. I'm not complaining, I am enjoying. And I know it will be properly updated in due course. I notice Central adding new products to My Products as they are updated. Only a few have needed a small online update for v5 compatibilty. This is very impressive software development. and has been the fastest, simplest and most enjoyable sim change-over I've ever 'endured'. Kudos Orbx Central Team. Sorry for the semi relevant side-track. I just wanted to share this most enjoyable 'quirk'. Cheers