Dieter Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Installed FTX Norway and I have some problems at Oslo airport at the terminal/tower area: (FTX Global and OrbxLib, latest versions installed, FTXCentral position "Europe") Strange objects positioning, double identical buildings, seems to be mixed up. No other Norway/Oslo scenery installed. http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/nCv Is there any adcvice, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger Sandmann Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hi Dieter, it does look like another version of ENGM is active, perhaps with an AI traffic program? Please run a Windows search of your entire FSX folder tree for all .bgl files that include ENGM as part of their names and post a list or screenshot of the results with full file and folder names. An example of that approach is http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/74843-two-layer-main-runway-at-nzqn/?p=690129 Cheers, Holger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hello Holger, I don't have any traffic program installed. I did the recommended search: I searched for *oslo*.bgl http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/nVy ( I already deleted the traffic_ships_norway...oslo..bgl without any success.) and for *engm*.bgl http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/nV3 This is very mysterious I didn't find any "culprit". What I'm wondering are the identical buildings. Are these Orbx objects or MS standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger Sandmann Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Hi Dieter, pretty odd. The buildings are MS default but moved to the correct location after we adjusted aprons and taxiways. The ADE file contains code to exclude the original placements. I've never heard of that bit not working so I still think it has to be some outside influence. Sorry, but the only other suggestion I have is to temporarily deactivate all other add-ons to check whether the issue goes away. Cheers, Holger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Well, a long way to go, will takes some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulVR Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I had exactly the same problem in ENGM Oslo. I solved it by disabling ENGM_AP.BGL and ENGM_FL.BGL in Scenery / UtEurAirports / Scenery (not sure if it is an Ultimate Terrain or an Ultimate Traffic folder, because I have both - most likely Terrain). I don't know if this helps, but it seems Holger is right. Paul FTX Norway FSS0335407 (and all other Orbx regions...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Thomsen Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 It is UTE Terrain. They fixed the original, horrible main apron placement made by MS. I remember this mess, because I could disable ENGM from the UT Config. But each time I patched UTE, ENGM came back in play. Best remedy is to delete the two files you mention. If using FTXN, delete all EN...files from that folder. Myself, I haven't been using anything UT for at least a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 This is one the most mysterious problems I ever experienced during all the years I'm operating FSX.@HolgerI created a (test) scenery.cfg in which I deleted all scenery/meshes entries except the original ones by MS.Then Oslo is displayed in MS standard design.Now I added the 4 FTX EU Norway ( 5 - 8 ) and the OrbxLib entries to the scenery.cfg and - I couldn't believe - the old problem appears again.I also reinstalled FTX Norway with no success.@Paul, AndrewENGM_AP.BGL and ENGM_FL.BGL are already deleted for a long time because of the known problems. I'm close at my wit's end ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Thomsen Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm close at my wit's end ... I am totally at my wit's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 most likely you still have a rogue bgl that affects the scenery located somewhere in your setup, it can be a real pain to hunt those down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Most likely you are right, Wolter. I already spent a lot of time on this without any success. So for the moment I don't have the nerves continuing the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM480 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 hi all, same problems here, just as an addition:problems are equal in FSX as in P3DV2.4 ! (different drives same¨PC) kind regards HANS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Oh, interesting read, it's not only me, I shouldn't give up. @Hans, do you/did you have UTX Europe and/or AoN installed before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM480 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hi Dieter, I have countless add-ons (installed and removed) through the years (on this PC since 2009). I have been searching my files and cannot recall I had UTX Europe once installed on my rig. I had GEX-Europe installed, but removed that one a long time ago. Another strange behavior that I noticed on both platforms (FSX/P3D) is that also @ ENBR there is a problem with the airport elevation. And yes, I ran FTX Vector Global airport elevation correction (run auto-configuration) on both platforms. If you want, i can try to add a picture. Probably nothing to do with this all; but i had FS GENESIS MESH installed (but inactive in the library in FSX) and Xclass EU 2006/07 cloud9 (but inactive in the library in FSX). It is a bit painfull that with all those great ORBX regions installed, we can not fully enjoy OrbxFTXEUNOR in all its glory. Hopefully we (they) can find the culprit. Hans ps what is AoN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 AoN Have a look here: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/89492-new-aon-photopack-1-and-2-autogen-uploaded-today/?hl=%2Bairports+%2Bof+%2Bnorway#entry815446 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 @Hans, what makes me wondering and considering... You wrote, "problems are equal in FSX as in P3DV2.4" (==> Oslo) Is it correct to assume that your P3D 2.4 installation is just a pure version without any other additional stuff besides Orbx and Pilot's software? If yes, then it's more than strange that there is the same Oslo airport problem as in FSX (where you have a lot of different stuff installed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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