miloguy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 G'day , yep its 3.15 am and Im doing a long flight in the 208.. any way just wondering when i have the display up , showing my frame rate it says its around 12 -19 with a target of 31, what does all this mean? I have a quad core I7 1 gig ati radeion dedicated graphics card 8 gig ram windows 7 64bit.. usually have rex and plan G and chrome running while flying any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Your FPS 'should be' 60 FPS - good luck with that though! Tongue in cheek, couldn't resist - forgive me EDIT - it's the beer yet again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillwater Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Honestly a frame target of 30 fps is the optimum. I have to admit that any complicated scenery reduces this value at my end... if you are in bigger cities 12-18 is not uncommon to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I'm actually aiming for 60 to meet my refresh rate - but very little add-ons will allow this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Lewis Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 FSX/P3D aren't "games" where higher frame rates will garner any appreciable advantage. The target should be smoothness ... ie: getting 40+ frames per second, but having consistent stutters is a complete deal-breaker. If you can fly along over any area and get 20-30 frames per second, but have a seamless and stutter-free experience, that's where you want the sim to be. Folks never want to hear this, but to achieve a smooth flight experience you may need to dial back the visual options for the sim. Even the most powerful processors can become overloaded if you hit them with too much work. Dial things back a notch or two, and enjoy a smooth flight. Simulations are much more rewarding that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Synchronised FPS with Refresh rate = Smooth flight - PERIOD! Dialling back settings is totally irrelevant if you use absolute 'minimal' add-ons. FTX Global is a good add-on; apart from that a few airports and REX - that's how it has to be! XPlane 9 by the way with bespoke FSC Italian scenery is 'THE' nicest & smoothest sim I ever saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Routley Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Quad core i7, but the key will be the clock-rate. Very CPU dependent process Flightsimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Quad core i7, but the key will be the clock-rate. Very CPU dependent process Flightsimming. For me the key is sharing the load over 4 high spec PC's - this way the PC's are more reliable at their standard clock rates. Also I have seen an overclock induce some stuttering before. Horses for Courses I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Pugwash Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I lock my frames at 30fps and aim for smoothness, it is normally sitting at 29 unless I use an airport add-on that is heavy on the frames. Anywhere between 21 to 30fps should be sufficient...but smooth lower fps (no stutters) flying is better than 60, 80, or 100 fps with stutters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Routley Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 For me the key is sharing the load over 4 high spec PC's - this way the PC's are more reliable at their standard clock rates. Also I have seen an overclock induce some stuttering before. Horses for Courses I think I suspect that the OP is using a single computer, and probably not considering buying 3 more. This is a CPU intensive task. We don't exactly know what the OP is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boetie Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I find you can knock down your slider ( including fps) settings and tweak the CFG settings (Google it or I can send you some links) and still have great smoothness and detailed graphics. I run on a 46inch main monitor and the experience is very satisfactory with around 15 - 30 fps. There's so much more to fps than the actual figure. I can have a beautiful, pleasurable flight at 15 fps and the scenery loads perfectly, no stutters with detail. I'm no guru but I think with all the "tweaking" I've done with the CFG it has resulted in a nice balance and sim heaven - and with what some would consider a low fps value. In my option it's not all about FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Fair enough Ian - agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Harrell Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I try not to chase FPS, as I've had smooth flights with my FPS in the teens. I've also seen a stutter with FPS at 30 or greater. The real question is are you happy with your flights? Cheers, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 737 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I try not to chase FPS, as I've had smooth flights with my FPS in the teens. I've also seen a stutter with FPS at 30 or greater. The real question is are you happy with your flights? Cheers, Todd True enough - I am on the verge of finding out if I ever will be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloguy Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think , most of the time I am happy with my flights, just coming home ie to orbx Wollongongand some bigger cities ie kings ford smith in sydney i get slow down and i do have sliders down, and I'd love to have 2 or more pc's just for fsx but no money at the moment but might have 2 pc's eventually for fsx ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloguy Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 just notice my frame drops to 6.5 when landing at wollongong , and I have my settings to medium high,its around 20 or so during the flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Cox Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 What should your FPS be? Turned off while experiencing smooth flight. You will never experience enjoyable flightsimming while chasing FPS. Mine are locked at 30 and I enjoy nice smooth flying and never bother to check what FPS I am running at. And guess what? I really enjoy my flights!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Carefully tune you AF and your frames WILL improve as will the smootheness Milo you have a good PC and IMHO there is nothing to prevent your system from being in the 60's and greater, Reduce your distance visibility distance as it would be in the real world and you FPS will go up. IMHO there are many many Simpilots that want top performance but don't fly realistically. Now I have been outspoken on some subjects and what I am about to type will possibly ruffle a few feather's There are a lot of Sim Pilots that simply have no bloody idea and that is not being derogatory as many retiree's get into FSX as a pastime and have had little to do with PC's and Gaming before then which I suppose would be rather daunting. Now that being said I must be fair and add that there are just so many variables that effect performance, things like crap applications running in the background ie Up loader's, Driver Down loader's, tweaking tools and things of that nature WILL KILL performance and should IMHO NEVER be allowed to be installed nor used on ANY PC. Properly tuned Graphics card is IMHO just as important as a good CPU I don't believe for a second that there is any significant advantage in running 64 bit over 32 bit OS, the reason I say that is virtually all your applications are 32 Bit, and will run quite happily in a 32 Bit system, which I might add WILL use 4 Gb of Memory, it just doesn't show it . On my system I have never seen memory usage even approaching 3 gb . Now SOME systems appear to benefit from locking the refresh rate BUT that is only if the FPS is better than 60 (Common refresh rate for LCD monitor's) , I leave mine unlocked as it causes less stuttering and appears much smoother than locking the refresh rate and attempting to force the FPS to the refresh rate. My advise turn your filtering down and allow the FPS to increase and then tweak it carefully to improve the look and speed. Each system WILL require completely different tuning method depending on the hardware and that is the absolute truth. my settings will not likely work with any other system unless it is perhaps the same MoBo and graphics card , and even then software installed has an effect. Multiple monitors rob some performance especially when resolutions are driven much higher than FSX was EVER designed to go. Simple things such as trying to see the Horizon 10 mile away something that is rare places an extraordinary load on the graphics card. Overclocking is another thing where Gamer's go astray as sometimes this can lead to thermal instability and other nasty things happening like BSOD's, PC freezing and so on. Just like any machinery keep it cool and within operating parameter's and your PC will perform admirably for at least 5 years, and as for upgrading you should NEVER need to reinstal a thing , and IMHO NEVER even consider OEM instalations (No bloody CD's DVD with your software) and single Drives. as a single drive PC is simply asking for trouble as a gamer. Milo your PC should run into the 60 FPS and better !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloguy Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 I guess I'm just trying to chase smooth landings and around airports, for the most part fine in flights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloguy Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I was talking with a guy at our local pc super store, where I originaly bought the pc and he suggested maybe to try and update my graphics card driver via http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+7+-+64 would that help at all? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Give it a try and then you will know. Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloguy Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 thanks guys, I was doing some youtubing and googling ,is that even a word now and found a guy calle FSX Genius , and followed his tips for amd tweeks, and now I am getting about 30 - 40 fps in the air and 20 -35 on the ground ,19-25 on the runway.. so far so good, this is for Wollongong..going to check Jandakot to see how it goes.. thanks again every one... this will do if all being well till I can get my all fsx/p3d pc later this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandy Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 After several decades of stutters at varying degrees I followed someone's suggestion and matched my frame rate in FSX with my LCD monitor refresh rate. Ever since that simple modification I haven't seen a stutter. Marvellous. John G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simdown42 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't know if this is even supposed to happen but the latest routine Nvidea driver update for my GTX660 has upped my frame rate from an average of around 19 or 20 to around 25 to 30. It never happened before with updates. simdown42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't know if this is even supposed to happen but the latest routine Nvidea driver update for my GTX660 has upped my frame rate from an average of around 19 or 20 to around 25 to 30. It never happened before with updates. simdown42 This may be because of a new profile for P3D which you can see with nVidia Inspector if you use this tool. Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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