GarethW Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I want to say I am very glad I went with FTX Global. I use hybrid at the moment (with FTX England) for short hops in the NGX e.g. EGHH to LFPG. The contiguous feel it gives the terrain is the best I've experienced, and frankly it has reinvigorated my interest in simming. Also in exploring, which brings me to my Topic. Many moons ago I co-piloted an RAF Beverly from Aden Airport up to small strip on the plateau called Mukeiras (OYMS). N.E of Aden. I felt had to try it again with FTXG and see if it in any way recalled the general ambience of that trip. I was blown away by the FTX desert textures. Great work there ORBX! But Mukeiras turned out to be a sunken strip. See pic. One of 9 or 10 other, mainly smaller fields in Yemen that have sunken airstrips/runways. On my set-up that is. Most of the larger ones were fine. I came across a similar problem a while ago when installing FTX NZSI and it was easily fixed as I recall. Any suggestions please as to how to fix this issue? I have Genesis World Mesh Global Mesh installed. Also a dedicated Yemen mesh from the same people. I have re-installed both. As my P3D setup is a recent rebuild from scratch I have no conflicting scenery areas or files. I have installed the latest Library and Core files but wasn't expecting them to affect this particular problem. Cheers, Gareth Sorry, couldn't find a way to attach the pic I took of OYMS Order # FSS0222979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLonger Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have Genesis World Mesh Global Mesh installed. Also a dedicated Yemen mesh from the same people. I have re-installed both. As my P3D setup is a recent rebuild from scratch I have no conflicting scenery areas or files. I have installed the latest Library and Core files but wasn't expecting them to affect this particular problem. This clearly is a mesh problem... FTXG does nothing to FSX that can make airports sink (or rise): only mesh can do that. So to fix this problem you should contact Genesis! I presume they have a tool with which you can correct errors like this, which are very common with mesh addons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Hi Gareth, just went over to OYMS myself and indeed the place looks a bit down in the earth, alas this glitch was/is already present in the stock fsX as just checked here, see attached screenshots for comparison Stock fsX Stock fsX same as obove top down view . . FTX Global FTX Global same as obove top down view . . FTX Global + hybrid mode FTX Global + hybrid mode same as obove top down view it is correctable with a program called ADE to raise the elevation of that airfield to the correct altitude, I do not have it but there are a number of people around in the forums that can maybe fix it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have dug it out of the hole but I only have default mesh. It is now at a height of 7152 feet but may well not fit into Genesis mesh. If you can tell me the height of your surrounding terrain, I can soon alter the height to match your mesh. Were there any buildings there, windsocks, vehicles? It looks a bit blank. V1A Regards, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Nick to the rescue, again, thankx mate ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethW Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 Wolter and Nick, thanks for your great replies, and your offer to help sort it Nick. The pix you both included are pretty much duplicates of the ones I took. I suspected it a was mesh elevation issue but thought it strange that not all the Yemen fields were affected. I found quite a few, probably 8 but would be grateful to fix one or two of them. I hope it's not a huge time-consuming exercise. Is ADE something I can get my hands on, or maybe it takes a bit of expertise? Anyway, Nick I'll be back poste haste with some elevations ... Thanks again both. Best, Gareth Order # FSS0222979 Btw, what's the drill to add a pic? The editor, at my end anyway, lacked the familiar 'Attach' button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Hi Gareth, no worries, I've also added your numbers to your sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODI Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I had the same problem at OYMS (deep in a valley). In the meantime i tried to change the mesh with the "AFM"-tool (from PILOT'S) and now it looks like below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Wolter and Nick, thanks for your great replies, and your offer to help sort it Nick. The pix you both included are pretty much duplicates of the ones I took. I suspected it a was mesh elevation issue but thought it strange that not all the Yemen fields were affected. I found quite a few, probably 8 but would be grateful to fix one or two of them. I hope it's not a huge time-consuming exercise. Is ADE something I can get my hands on, or maybe it takes a bit of expertise? Anyway, Nick I'll be back poste haste with some elevations ... Thanks again both. Best, Gareth Order # FSS0222979 Btw, what's the drill to add a pic? The editor, at my end anyway, lacked the familiar 'Attach' button. Airport Design Editor can be found here http://www.airportdesigneditor.co.uk/ It is relatively easy to use and free unless you want to upgrade to the Pro version which activates more functions, such as the ability to move an entire airfield.. I am no expert but can manage the basics. I must warn you that it is very absorbing and can become very time consumimg. As to airfields, it is quite common, once you have left the mainstream areas, to find FSX default airfields in pits like this one or on their own plateaus, sometimes attached to a hillside. This tends to become much worse if a more accurate mesh is applied but as Wolter has shown us in this case, many of them don't even match the default mesh. Often they are also several hundred metres from their real life locations. I have wondered in the past whether the developers of FSX sometimes gave the files to their children to play with and whether the data they used for airfield locations was from the same planet as the terrain data. As to the Yemen airfields, I will send you the files for this one for your approval as soon as you publish the surrounding elevation. If you want some more done after you have seen this one, by all means but let us proceed using Private Messages, so as not to hijack the forum. Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethW Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Nick, I welcomed your comments above and sent the elevation data for OYMS to you soon after. Since then we seem to have lost touch. Never having sent a 'Private Message' on the ORBX forum before it could be that I fouled up somewhere. I simply went to the Members area and went from there. I hope you're still able to help me out as I went ahead installed ADE was unable to use it anyway as I don't have the FSX SDK. I use P3D but imagine its the same difference. As with the procedure for attaching screenshots (I still don't know how) I could find no area on this Forum to help rookies use 'Private Messages', or exchange files etc. Dieter, thanks for your recommendation of AFM 'tool'. It appeared to be presented on the Pilot's site as an 'elevation mesh repair' for FS Global. Still, it evidently did the job for you. Does it need the FSX SDK? I happen to like using fairly high-powered mesh for the desert areas since they can be somewhat boring by default. As you fixed OYMS yourself, can you kindly give me a few more details about AFM? Thanks, Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Hello Gareth, I replied yesterday. You should see a number on the envelope at the top of the forum near your username. Click on that. Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODI Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Hello Gareth, at at the link below You can see some other examples (sorry, but in german!). http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/59088-ftx-global/see under #11 and #37 Hope i could help You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethW Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Viel dank mein freund. I'll eventually get back to this thread with a 'happily ever after' ending, I have no doubt. Best wishes, Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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