bd Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 full size complete 737 sim. e8400 clocked to 3.7 4 gig super dooper ram xp 640mb 8800. o and o defrag registry mechanic love the new ymml. it is on the same podium as flightzone2....high praise. as the scenery is before its time, it can be a little piggy on our machines. i got rid of my landside trees and cars and vince and gino and maria walking around "waidin' for da plane ta land mayte". i installed the rex package. hey presto!!!!...solid 50 frames. (locked at 51) .......felt funny having it at unlimited a beautiful airport to fly my full size simulator into up here in queensland. rex have done a marvellous job at recreating the original runway/taxi textures bring on ybbn....and keep rex on board!!!! (not on my home pc...dunno me order number thingy at the moment, sorry) (if you have a wolfdale cpu do yourself a favour and buy a fifty dollar fan and overclock it as far as it will go. cpu speed runs fsx, 4 slow cores not gunna help here. ...god im cheeky) thanks orbicks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 50 FPS at YMML - congrats mate, well done, and we know it is possible to get that performance, so thanks for confirming it. BTW, any chance of some pics uploaded of your simulator setup? We'd love to see it (and get jealous, LOL!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 No-One gets 50................................ Love to see it too with the numbers in the top left :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petejohno Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Me Too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 and tell me how to clock my E8400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 he he..thought there would be sceptics. no probs guys. screenies coming... and some simulator shots. its only fifty cause i have limited it to fifty. it would be higher if set to unlimited. i was struggling big time aswell. 5-9-22-15-5-5 frames when set to unlimited before i used the rex thingy. i would also consider setting your textures to 1meter. it looks the same (unless you are in a robinson inspecting ymmls every blade of grass...... and if you want 15cm textures and blades of grass.....dont you think you will only get 5 frames? i was worried the rex pack would make my runways look like default. but they seem a good copy of the google earth ones. we descend in vnav and usually hand fly the approach heads down looking at the cdu and nav/pfd. so...basically....we drop out the sky and land...we see an airport in the distance, then a runway looms up and then some taxiways. we dont get to see much (so we dont need to see much..... ie 15cm textures) but we do need some beautiful buildings when taxiing. and it appears that the actual airport buildings have next to no hit on frames. without frames our cockpit is not flyable or realsitic. so we have found our sweet spot of awesome 1m countryside, and an unbelievably clear, acurate and realistic airport to taxi around and the ultra high frames. so really.....we chipped away the heavy stuff away leaving just the airport to enjoy. surely everyone else is doing this? one thing i would like to know is how to get those giant gum trees at other airports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 please include your YMML order number in your signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 please include your YMML order number in your signature Bernt, please leave those requests for Orbx staff ... we don't need vigilantes on our forums He's not requesting support, therefore he does not need to be queried regarding his copy of YMML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBPN Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Post some screenshot proof with FPS indicator. But from wide angle view and at certain distance, otherwise it's pointless advertising 50FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Okay okay John, I'll promise. I couldn't resist because I was wondering, just because this thread was not negative, that these numbers aren't required. Makes sense now, sorry. ------ The FPS indicator is a proof for what? Even with MS paint you can change those numbers on a screenshot.... Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiko Glatthorn Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 50 ? And i thought my 30 without traffic was the record. Bring on the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Okay okay John, I'll promise. I couldn't resist because I was wondering, just because this thread was not negative, that these numbers aren't required. Makes sense now, sorry. ------ The FPS indicator is a proof for what? Even with MS paint you can change those numbers on a screenshot.... Regards Don't push your luck Herr Stolle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Ok guys, enough is enough. I am growing really tired, really quickly of this constant discussion about performance. Of all the copies we have sold, less than 1% of customers are reporting any sort of performance issues. Those who are, are creating 90% of support forum post traffic between them. If you spent less time on the forums, and more time just using FSX without the SHIFT-Z red text active, you'd have less stress and live longer. If you persist in continual remarks about performance regardless of whether customers are requesting support, we may need to review your access rights. Orbx puts the customer first, but there is a tolerance level that is fast being tested. We are certainly working behind the scenes to get more performance out of YMML - surely you don't think we have not listened to your issues? Please, just give us some time to work through our optimisation strategies and give other users on the forums the luxury to post in peace without have demands of proof placed on them. If Mango posts shots on similar hardware to yours and states he does not have any performance issues, then I am inclined to lean towards an environmental issue local to your PC rather than disbelief Mango, who is one of our most repected and trusted developers and testers, and whose opinion and evidence you need to believe and take notice off - not continue to demand instant answers and solutions to issues which are affecting a tiny minority of YMML users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Wolter, I know that I'm not the first one you are threatening. At least in my case you are not doing it via PM. John, I don't know why the ORBX staff takes all this personal immediately??? Neither did I call your video a useless comparison nor did I doubt Heikos FPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mango has a high performance PC and apparently he is also quite surprised about that 50FPS. BTW, a screenshot with 16fps isn't exactly encouraging when looking at Mangos specs. For me anything below 30 is not smooth. That's why I disabled almost every feature in the MEL setup. AFAIK the problem with MEL I have is texture loading and not the fps. I even mentioned that I do get 100+ fps with the default C208. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I'm not threathening anybody, what I really wonder about is what your inclination is, as for every post you make here you seem to feel the need of looking how to stirr things up. no more no less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 john, im not sure whether to follow up on screenshots etc and continue this thread or not? either way ill do whatever helps out. my setup proves that the airport can be operated out of nicely, (but its not in its pure form..so to speak). it may all be academic after the patch. geez....im a bit gun shy now. hay guys!!!!!!....my 50+ frames is with rex and 1meter textures,, 25% ai, a few cumulonimbus, no cars, no boats, no giraffes, no bloom, water at 2 low. you dont see much when flying the big stuff. im bloody hopeless..and if i can do it? ;D ymml order 9381. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 bd, please post those screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I have just finished testing the newest build of the patch and my FPS over the main terminal has almost doubled, plus all texture loading issues are gone, and I have textures on FTX AI aircraft 100% of the time. I think you will like this patch Explanation: In the final week of development, something went wrong with our compile scripts for the textures, and instead of them all being forced to consistent resolution and DXT1, we had a combination of all sorts of resolutions and compression methods. I have fixed the compiler script and we now have consistent textures across the entire airport. I take full blame for this boo-boo (must have been the 72 hours straight I was cramming for release), but I think you will all benefit from the patch which I hope to release tomorrow ok? Thanks all for your patience. I will post this also in the patch announcement thread from earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Thankx John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 great. we've all pissed jv off so much he never does anymore airports and goes back to his day job at the csiro nuclear testing facility...great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 great. we've all pissed jv off so much he never does anymore airports and goes back to his day job at the csiro nuclear testing facility...great. I'm wondering wich place is going to be the first target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiko Glatthorn Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Mango has a high performance PC and apparently he is also quite surprised about that 50FPS. BTW, a screenshot with 16fps isn't exactly encouraging when looking at Mangos specs. Oh well, i am GPU restricted with my 1920 (plus secondary monitor) resolution. My 280 GTX which was DOA will arrive soon - then we'll see the true numbers. I would say at a highly detailed airport with all bells and whistles enabled, with very high FSX settings except autogen and such amount of high quality traffic, 16 FPS isn't bad... Furthermore i was searching the most demanding spot for this pics. A little further down at the gates i have easy above 25. I installed already Johns patch and see a nice FPS improvement. YMML texture and terrain texture loading problems i never had. And guys, keep the ball low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendigoandy Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Now Ive tweaked my system like a sports car, the new patch will make things even sweeter ! Thanks John.... Lets hope the forums quieten up a little as far as YMML goes. : Now can we have some smiles from everybody! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D >( 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :( :( :o ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 SH*T.. I get tired of wading through some of the stuff some of these w*nkers write.. it's time you took a look at the USA and their "three strikes and you are out" Law John.. if you pull some of these posts by posters name you will see that most of what they write is negative.. let 'em go I say.. let's get back to the days of a great bunch of folks enjoying their hobby. Teecee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurdy Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 SH*T.. I get tired of wading through some of the stuff some of these w*nkers write.. it's time you took a look at the USA and their "three strikes and you are out" Law John.. if you pull some of these posts by posters name you will see that most of what they write is negative.. let 'em go I say.. let's get back to the days of a great bunch of folks enjoying their hobby. Teecee hear hear TeeCee .. those wanting 100+ FPS coz its smoooooth.. i beleive I still have old copy of FS2000 at home I am not using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 awesome news about the service pack John after lots of tweaking I have Ymml running very smoothly, and I'm extremely happy as it is atm now you have a patch , it can only get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 awesome news about the service pack John after lots of tweaking I have Ymml running very smoothly, and I'm extremely happy as it is atm now you have a patch , it can only get better It's not a service pack, but a "band-aid" quick fix patch meant only for lower-mid spec PCs. See here for more information: http://orbxsystems.com/forums/index.php?topic=4597.0 SP1 will take some more time to be released, perhaps a month from now (edit: maybe longer). It will include many new models, objects and improvements across the board, plus performance tuning using a method that preserves the high resolution airside textures a lot better. Since this takes Marty and I some time to do, we're not going to rush SP1. We believe the image quality is the one thing that makes YMML stand out from the crowd, and we're going to preserve that at any cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxter Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 SP1 or not, your continued dedication to the improvement of our simming experience is without par... Congrats and thanks again mate, Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 yes without ORBX, Australia was a pretty dull old place in FSX thanks for the heads up John, think I will just continue enjoying this beautiful airport the way it was meant to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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