matty260191 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I have North Island installed also and NZGS. If I fly to it from anywhere I get something that looks like the first pic. only if I load at NZGS or do a scenery reload on finals it looks correct like the second Pic. do I need to disable the NZGS files in North Island? also why is it not loading the proper textures unless I do a scenery reload? P3D 5.3 5950X 3090 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just to add I have done 3 inbound flights to NZGS with NI installed all have resulted in this weird ground texture not loading issue. I have verified and sync sim in Orbx control panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) any help? can anyone replicate? all my flights were PMDG NGXU NZWN-NZGS Edited January 19, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Hi I assume you are referring to the greening of the runway surface? That's the only difference I see in the two screenshots. My first guess would be it is only a P3D compatibility thing that we can do nothing about at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Hi I assume you are referring to the greening of the runway surface? That's the only difference I see in the two screenshots. My first guess would be it is only a P3D compatibility thing that we can do nothing about at this time. Its not loading the surfaces only the underlying image. Look closer you will see that the first pic has no runway surface or taxiway surface its just the base image showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Maybe these help more the first is straight after landing from another airport. The second is once I did a scenery reload or if I load straight in at NZGS. do you know what causes this issue? could it be conflict with ORBZ NZ NI? Its like its not loading something to do with terrain and the runway/taxiway service or GP. Is there anything that can be done or I can help with to fix this? I don't get this issue at any other Orbx NZ field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Seems like it could be a similar issue to the Ground Poly at NZQN in this post Edited January 21, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Hi Matty The only difference between your two pics is the runway surface greening. And no, it is not at all the same issue as in the topic you linked. I still believe it is a P3D issue. Have you tried doing a full uninstall and reinstall of both the NI and the airport? We could also ask @Finni Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Hi Matty The only difference between your two pics is the runway surface greening. And no, it is not at all the same issue as in the topic you linked. I still believe it is a P3D issue. Have you tried doing a full uninstall and reinstall of both the NI and the airport? We could also ask @Finni Hansen you keep saying "greening" and all that is doing is dismissing what I'm saying please look closely at the picture, the photo texture under the runway is showing and if you also look the taxiway surface is doing the same. It is the same issue where the texture for the surface is not loading the Ground poly. Yes I have tried a full uninstall and reinstall of the airport and NI. you will also see the taxiway is raised above the terrain around it too. If your not the developer who made this how can you assume you know what's wrong? @Finni HansenI assume your the developer, can you help? Edited January 21, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, matty260191 said: the photo texture under the runway is showing Hello Matty This is what I see, in your position I would delete any backups, uninstall NZNI and NZGS and do a fresh download and install of each. Verify the Orbx Libraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Smudger said: Hello Matty This is what I see, in your position I would delete any backups, uninstall NZNI and NZGS and do a fresh download and install of each. Verify the Orbx Libraries. Have done will test in a bit. Its fine if i load there but if i have flown from somewhere else thats when it happens. Those pics are with you loading at NZGS I take it? Like I said ill try again tonight now i did fresh install. I can also offer video of it on every flight I done I stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Clean install of NI and NZGS. This is what I see when I fly to NZGS from another location No surfaces loading and some strange lumpy terrain and raised taxiway and runway: Edited January 21, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 This is what I see if I load at NZGS or if on arrival I reload the scenery library to force a scenery reload To me the issue is quite clear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 My setting is that helps. 5950X 3090 running vsync at 60FPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 My 2nd pic was flying into NZGS from NZNR, there is something amiss judging by your pics, is your scenery library set correctly ? Mine is below. I have an AMD Ryzen 7 3700 and a Geforce RTX 2070 Super, not up to your level. I include my P3Dv5 settings for you to compare. My FPS is set at unlimited in P3Dv5 Display, but is set to 33FPS in the Nvidia Control Panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Yes NI is below NZGS. My flights have been from NZWN in the PMDG 738. I use vsync so limits to the Monitor 60FPS Edited January 21, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Sorry Matty, but at present I am out of any further ideas, it is probably something simple, certainly not your rig, if anything else comes to mind I'll let you know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Smudger said: Sorry Matty, but at present I am out of any further ideas, it is probably something simple, certainly not your rig, if anything else comes to mind I'll let you know . No problem at all at this point im open to trying anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 11 hours ago, matty260191 said: you keep saying "greening" and all that is doing is dismissing what I'm saying please look closely at the picture, I am not professing I know what is wrong, I have only stated my belief. Please circle in red the specific issues you do see. Your first picture shows green coming through on the the runway texture, do you see that? Your second picture does not, do you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: I am not professing I know what is wrong, I have only stated my belief. Please circle in red the specific issues you do see. Your first picture shows green coming through on the the runway texture, do you see that? Your second picture does not, do you see that? Yes your right it looks greener but whats actually happening to cause that is more complex than saying its green. The GP and terrain is not loading correctly the greening is not greening its the fact that I'm seeing the base image rather than the runway and taxiway surface texture. So yes its greening but thats just the effect not cause. Edited January 22, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Smudger said: Sorry Matty, but at present I am out of any further ideas, it is probably something simple, certainly not your rig, if anything else comes to mind I'll let you know . I add all scenery to a library and its added via addon.xml I noticed all the stub's are below the default scenery files just above the default terrain and scenery entry's at the very bottom of the scenery library. I have moved them up to see if this will fix it. its strange as this is where Orbx placed them not me. yours looks like they install into the sim folder rather than the library outside the sim. and yours are definitely higher in priority. Edited January 22, 2022 by matty260191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, matty260191 said: install into the sim folder Yes, mine are all loaded into the P3Dv5 sim folder, apart from Object Flow and Trees which have to be loaded outside. Do you have Vector for P3Dv5 installed and active ? I am not certain but I understand that using the addon.xml procedure the entries are haphazard in the scenery.cfg, which is not to my liking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Smudger said: Yes, mine are all loaded into the P3Dv5 sim folder, apart from Object Flow and Trees which have to be loaded outside. Do you have Vector for P3Dv5 installed and active ? I am not certain but I understand that using the addon.xml procedure the entries are haphazard in the scenery.cfg, which is not to my liking I use an addon manager to make them not haphazard. I have vector yes but for v5 it doesn't do anything to airport elevations. I'm gonna try a flight again later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 hours ago, matty260191 said: So yes its greening but thats just the effect not cause. Yes, exactly, thank you! Please post a copy of your “scenery.cfg” file and the “add-ons.cfg” and the “scenery_add-ons.xml” file found at C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5. Please note: Do not open the files and copy and paste the contents, just attach the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 add-ons.cfg scenery.cfg scenery_add-ons.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Thanks Matty I don't see anything wrong with those files, so my next guess is that another one of your addons is the culprit. Also, please see the below long winded topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty260191 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 The only other airfield I have close are either Orbx or FB NZAA no addon mesh or anything. gonna retry the flight I had a little mess about with scenery library order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt318 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Hello - may I join the discussion, as I had the same problem. I found out, that this was caused due to the different elevations between P3Dv5 default and Orbx NZGS. First I deactivated all *NZGS*.bglfiles in the NZNI folder and deactivated the elevation adjustment for NZGS in the scenery\world\scenery folder. After that I corrected the elevation within the Orbx NZSG-Scenery folder to the default elevation - and my problem was gone. Probabely this may help you also. I have attached the corrected ADEP-File - please feel free to try it. When using this new file then you have to deactive the current file (NZGS_ADEP4_FKH.bgl.off). I think it's worth a try. Best regards Bernhard When it is not working, you can easily go back to the current situation NZGS_ADEP5_bt.bgl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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