Mitch’s Aviation Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Hi guys there is not much too say but here is the picture. I have tried uninstalling and verifying it but still nothing! any thoughts let me know thanks Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aua668 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Hi, This error is noted by Orbx after earlier reports. But at the moment there is no fix available. Hopefully we will get it in future. Shouldn't be too difficult to fix. Rgds Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Amiga Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Do you have Little Nav Map ? If so it will show the files used for an airport which is really helpful for tracking issues, I found I needed to mark a file as ".off" to avoid a clash and resultant elevation issues. In my case the file was ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZQN.BGL being the default airport in the Orbx NZ South Island package which I assume you also have. Otherwise I wouldn't count on Orbx fixing, maintenance of existing packages tends to be right down on the bottom of the priority scale (with a few notable exceptions). Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Are you using the Orbx NZ South default without the Orbx Queenstown addon payware ?? If not - and you fly NZ in P3D regular - then you might try the Orbx payware Queenstown nothing wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdAstra Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/6/2021 at 6:52 PM, John Heaton said: Are you using the Orbx NZ South default without the Orbx Queenstown addon payware ?? If not - and you fly NZ in P3D regular - then you might try the Orbx payware Queenstown nothing wrong with that actually, you'd be wrong NZSI is the root cause of this issue scenario 1) with NZSI and ZQN installed - if you load at say, WLG, then fly into ZQN, you will get what the OP has reported scenario 2) with NZSI and ZQN installed - if you load at ZQN and fly out of ZQN, you wont get the scenery issues scenario 3) with NZSI and ZQN NOT installed - if you fly from wellington to the default queenstown scenery, you will note a degradation in performance. ergo, it is NZSI causing issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Ahem !! - please tell me where I was WRONG ?? I said ---- "then you might try the Orbx payware Queenstown - nothing wrong with that (Payware Queenstown) You said ---- "(scenario 2) with NZSI and ZQN installed - if you load at ZQN and fly out of ZQN, you wont get the scenery issues" In the past 2 weeks - I have flown into and out of NZQN - from default Wellington - Orbx Milford Sound - default Canterbury and departed to a few local default strips - reprising actual physical flights I made in the 70s ---- and never seen that at Queenstown with Orbx - using NZSI However - if Rheinhard recognises the problem - the the OP will one day be satisfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aua668 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 11 hours ago, John Heaton said: However - if Rheinhard recognises the problem - the the OP will one day be satisfied Just for clarification: I am also a simple customer suffering from this problem waiting for the fix, which hopefully will be provided by Orbx. I have NZSI and NZQN from Orbx installed and I see exactly the problem of Mitch. I have deinstalled and reinstalled both products. But the problem stayed for me. Rgds Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch’s Aviation Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 Hey guys sorry for the late reply. Thanks for all the help and no I don’t have any NZ regions installed. I think it has something to with P3DV5 or something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdAstra Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 5:23 PM, John Heaton said: Ahem !! - please tell me where I was WRONG ?? I said ---- "then you might try the Orbx payware Queenstown - nothing wrong with that (Payware Queenstown) You said ---- "(scenario 2) with NZSI and ZQN installed - if you load at ZQN and fly out of ZQN, you wont get the scenery issues" In the past 2 weeks - I have flown into and out of NZQN - from default Wellington - Orbx Milford Sound - default Canterbury and departed to a few local default strips - reprising actual physical flights I made in the 70s ---- and never seen that at Queenstown with Orbx - using NZSI However - if Rheinhard recognises the problem - the the OP will one day be satisfied what youve written is unnecessarily confusing and centralises on the fact that you DEPART queenstown as referenced in your image. as i said, BASED ON WHAT YOU INITIALLY SAID AND PROVIDED, the problem IS NOT evident when you spawn at queenstown, and almost certainly not prevalent if opersting in a bug smasher. IT IS prevalent when using complex sim airplanes. if youre not seeing it, im glad for you... but at least 5 others in addition to yours truly get this problem... thats NOT including the OP, Rheinhard, and the other threads created to highlight this EXACT problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch’s Aviation Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 I don’t think saying any thoughts is confusing to most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_driver Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I'm also having same issue, Have NZSI installed as well but also the Payware, the issues seems to be the NZSI/NZSI as I have to go into the NZSI/NZNI Scenery folder and turn all the related airport to ".off" otherwise they interfere with my payware scenery. For whatever reason it doesn't seem to respect the Library Order at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Amiga Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Gave this a test. I am running NZ-SI/NZ-NI and the additional NZQN, all Orbx, plus I have the default NZ-SI NZQN disabled (via the .off method, e.g. ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZQN.BGL.OFF). NZ-SI/NZ-NI are installed into the Sim Root with NZQN installed via the Add-on xml method. Originating airport was NZRX with a straight flight to NZQN. And low and behold half the runway doesn't show up, and yes doesn't occur if the airport is the orientating airport. Sounds like the ball is firmly in Orbx's side of the court... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Can you pop this updated ground poly file in your Orbx\FTX_NZ\FTX_AA_NZQN\Scenery folder and see if it resolves your problem. ORBX_NZQN_Groundpoly.BGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aua668 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Graham, Thanks! This fixed it for me. Runway is now completely visible. Rgds Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Amiga Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Graham Eccleston said: Can you pop this updated ground poly file in your Orbx\FTX_NZ\FTX_AA_NZQN\Scenery folder and see if it resolves your problem. Original poly renamed. New poly dropped in. Flight test repeated. And looking good, fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaab Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Thank you Graham, It make me want to go back and revisit this nice place ! Was a great pleasure. Gérard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 The flight from Milford Sound to Queenstown in the P3D default Mooney Acclaim is one I do regularly. Quite spectacular flying through the valleys rather than over the top. One I recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_driver Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/20/2021 at 10:58 AM, Quantum Amiga said: Original poly renamed. New poly dropped in. Flight test repeated. And looking good, fantastic. Do you still have the default scenery bgl off ? or did you turn them back on? Many Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aua668 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Hi, Make a backup of the old file and then simply replace it with the new one. That's all. Rgds Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_driver Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Cheers, Resolved for me Also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Amiga Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I had the NZSI default set to ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZQN.BGL.OFF More for test repeatability, but hey if the new poly works with ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZQN.BGL active, all the better. Here's hoping the fix makes it into an NZQN release update. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaab Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 1:12 AM, Graham Eccleston said: The flight from Milford Sound to Queenstown in the P3D default Mooney Acclaim is one I do regularly. Quite spectacular flying through the valleys rather than over the top. One I recommend. Hi Graham, While looking to prepare this flight plan, I discovered I have TWO Queenstown on the same spot : NZQZ and NZQN. Is this due to a change of ICAO code and should I delete the NZQZ file ? LittleNavMap Airports Overview Scenery 1106 Base G:\Prepar3D v5\Scenery\1106\scenery\APX92480.bgl FTX_NZSI_05_SCENERY H:\OrbxAU\p3dv5\NZ South Island\Orbx\FTX_NZ\FTX_NZSI_05_SCENERY\scenery\ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZQN.BGL FTX_AA_NZQN H:\OrbxAU\p3dv5\NZQN Queenstown Airport\Orbx\FTX_NZ\FTX_AA_NZQN\Scenery\ORBX_NZQN_APX.BGL and Scenery FTX_AA_NZQN H:\OrbxAU\p3dv5\NZQN Queenstown Airport\Orbx\FTX_NZ\FTX_AA_NZQN\Scenery\ORBX_NZQZ_APX.BGL What waypoint do you recommand - should I follow the coast up to Martins Bay Lodge and then folllow the valleys ? Thanks for the tip Gérard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 NZQZ is the crosswind runway used by smaller GA aircraft to separate them from the larger airline traffic. Due to the limitations of FSX and P3D, this is the only way to separate the two AI traffic types. Don’t delete NZQZ or you will lose all your GA AI traffic. If you wish to land on the main runway select NZQN. If you prefer to land on the smaller crosswind runway, select NZQZ. Up the coast and then inland via the valleys is my normal route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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