flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 hello since I installed the new update to YBBN (thank you much better frame rates) however something gone wrong at YBAF Archerfield with the elevation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 i disabled Ants Aussies and OZx only to find same issue but found only way to resolve was to drop the mesh resolution to 152m which is not great but anything above this setting seems to screw it up. not really the outcome I wanted as I am sure this will make a difference elsewhere. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 and this is what it looks like with high settings which i prefer my settings to be you can see from the aerial shot it is only the land around the airport that is being affected so how do i resolve this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 some more investigation using p3d v5 finds these settings with default YBAF work fine as opposed to the V4 above and it's V4 issues. now I don't have any ants or ozx running with V5 however as I mentioned disabling them makes no difference. so the shots below are V5 so what is the difference in files that can resolve this issue in v4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hello, I confirm the problem in both P3D v4 and FSX. I also do not see the problem in P3D v5. Perhaps we can ask @Graham Eccleston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nick I noticed holgermesh installed in p3dv5 but i never installed it and it is not on the list in central so i will try to install it in v4 even though it says not compatable with auv2 but for some reason this might be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I'm seeing this. I don't have P3DV5 yet. I tried disabling Vector... no change. I tried unticking YBBN. No change. So it's something the devs will have to have a look at methinks. And this is what I see now with YBBN unticked in the Scenery Library: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 well i'm stumped installing holgermesh made no difference even uninstalling and reinstalling auv2 made no difference. all files in both p3dv4 folders and p3dv5 folders are the same yet the elevation issue is only happening in v4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petfy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 YBAF for me in P3Dv4. No AEC entry in vector. Addons kept light for medium computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 ok some more experimenting reveals the following turning off the ftxauv2 scenery folder flattens all the terrain but no scenery. turning off the mesh with scenery on makes no difference but having either mesh or scenery on still has the problem so there must be a file in both mesh and scenery that makes the landclass incorrect attached some pics first scenery disabled next mesh enabled scenery disabled last mesh disabled scenery enabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 well petfy i'd sure like to know what your scenery install folder looks like can you post a pic of the install library you may hold the key Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 also petfy what are your graphics setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petfy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 as a side note - I'd love to know how to get YBCG and YSPT together. Just noticed that GC is above YBCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 ok thanks for that i have set my location at same place and took a shot and already notice differences in scenery petfy look at the mountains in the background for example compare to your shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 well i tried your setting petfy exactly as you have and still same nut i can see some differences in your scenery from the pic that i don't see in mine so this is strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petfy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Putting GC under YSPT made no difference to YBAF (ie correct ground). Also I have AU2 without holgermesh (did AU2 come with its own mesh), no other meshes ie global mesh. I wish you well in your trouble shooting as I can not suggest anything that has not already been tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 yeah petfy thanks mate really strange holgermesh made no difference i tried that because oddly when AUv2 is installed in P3dv5 it also installs holgermesh and in p3dv5 all is good i have tried all i can think of to solve this short of doing a complete fresh install i might see if i can do another install in another HD and see if i can find the difference not sure if i can do that so have to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petfy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Something to check out. V5 and my grass runways have piano keys. Your v4 does not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 cant install a second copy without uninstalling this one sadly so i cant be doing that to much headache lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 no sadly the only way i can get it to work is dropping the mesh resolution way down and i am sure this will affect other scenery areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hello, in accordance with the standard advice, I have verified files for Australia v2 and now I see this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 ok so i will try to verify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I verified before and it made no difference but I'll do it again to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 John we are speaking of YBAF Archerfield not YBBN Brisbane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 sadly nick that made no difference for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, flyguy737 said: John we are speaking of YBAF Archerfield not YBBN Brisbane Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, flyguy737 said: sadly nick that made no difference for me In that case, there must be something still remaining in your installation that is not in mine. I maintain full Orbx installations that never have anything else included and the two shots are from those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 i will try uninstalling auv2 again load up p3d default close p3d install auv2 again and verify then run p3d again see if anything happens. nick can you post a screen shot of your settings and library order please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: In that case, there must be something still remaining in your installation that is not in mine. I maintain full Orbx installations that never have anything else included and the two shots are from those. Me too yet mine is different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, flyguy737 said: i will try uninstalling auv2 again load up p3d default close p3d install auv2 again and verify then run p3d again see if anything happens. nick can you post a screen shot of your settings and library order please? Hello, they are not connected, you need to discover which other addon is interfering with the runway levels, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, they are not connected, you need to discover which other addon is interfering with the runway levels, I think. easier said then done nick lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 yeah sadly that didn't fix it Nick do you have your auv2 installed in your sim dir or a separate library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Another couple of things I've noted in my setup that have not been initiated by me: The AUV2 option in Vector was unticked. AU Traffic seems to have been disables, at YBBN all I see are some yellow tailed aircraft at the domestic terminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 i don't have vector or global installed i wonder if that has something to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hello, every Orbx product that can be installed inside the P3D folder is. Clearly in FSX, they all are. Mesh complexity is set at 5m. The Australia v2 scenery library entries are in this order and position in the scenery library, as set by Orbx Central. Global Base has no effect at all on airports, it simply does not have the files. There are no Vector files for YBAF, so it cannot be a cause, even if installed. I don't suppose you have added any updated airport navigation data or added AI software? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 ok thanks nick. I tried moving it to my main library folder instead but that had no effect. i'm really stumped on this i have no other scenery for australia except sydney and perth so cant understand what it could be i guess i have to turn off one by one and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 My AUV2 is installed in the P3DV4.5 Orbx folder, so I'm able to use Scenery Config Editor to disable various options. I have YBBN ticked. With AUV2 disabled I get flat YBAF. Enabling AUV2 I get the elevation problem. It's as simple as that. Ergo, call me Sherlock Holmes, but something in AUV2 is causing the problem at YBAF. And I can confirm it seems to be in the FTXAUv2_05_SCENERY folder, because when I untick that, I get a flat YBAF again. EDIT: Rebooting P3D and the bumps reappeared but less severe. I'll try again with all AUV2 folders unticked. And yes, unticking all the folders results in dead flat YBAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy737 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, John Dow said: My AUV2 is installed in the P3DV4.5 Orbx folder, so I'm able to use Scenery Config Editor to disable various options. I have YBBN ticked. With AUV2 disabled I get flat YBAF. Enabling AUV2 I get the elevation problem. It's as simple as that. Ergo, call me Sherlock Holmes, but something in AUV2 is causing the problem at YBAF. And I can confirm it seems to be in the FTXAUv2_05_SCENERY folder, because when I untick that, I get a flat YBAF again. yes John i found that out too earlier look above but disabling it doesn't have the scenery of YBAF then but i agree it is something in there but it works fine in p3dv5 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, flyguy737 said: yes John i found that out too earlier look above but disabling it doesn't have the scenery of YBAF then but i agree it is something in there but it works fine in p3dv5 ? OK the culprit might be OZx. Can you disable OZx and see what you get? I get a flat YBAF with OZx now disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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