John Heaton Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 G'Day Nick ------ et al Would you answer this here please - or ship it across to Central Forum for an answer? I want to set up a separate SFSX sim in addition to my P3D and XP11 sims which have Orbx products exclusive. and all installed/set up by Central in respective sim library. I have P3D sim and Orbx - on it's own 2 TB disc -(with ample room for SFSX sim) - or I have an exclusive Steam 500 GB disc for all my Steam games - planty space for the sim - but would not have enough space for the all the Orbx @ 204 GB current Can I - in Central - having installed my Steam FSX again - ask it to install selected Orbx (eg TE UK pack) as installed in P3D Sim directory - to the SFX sim Directory. I don't really want to have a separate area as a library - as mooted when others want to save disc space . (Or --- is there a simple way - like copy Orbx in P3d and paste in SFSX) ?????? I am taking the retro step - because quite a few old models of FSX aircraft - particularly SFX only warbirds - are going cheap in Just Flight i.e. - the older GA and pre jet British A/C - Vickers Viscount - Dove etc - aircraft of my generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Hello, the True Earth products are not available for FSX, so I am afraid that for them, the answer is no. You can use Orbx Central to install all Orbx products that are available for FSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, the True Earth products are not available for FSX, so I am afraid that for them, the answer is no. You can use Orbx Central to install all Orbx products that are available for FSX. Thanks Nick I still have UK1.6 - so that will do me fine - with the Global and Europe LC for BEA flights and will check all my Oceana stuff for original Qantas/NZ aircraft. I know the airfields haven't changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Hi Nick - sorry to have to come back How can I get Central to recognise that I have Steam FSX installed ?? It's only showing P3D and XP11 - and of course in P3D it shows Any of my scenes as already installed and I cant get beyond that point to Steam FSX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Hello, it has to be installed and run before the registry entries are created for Orbx Central to read. Does it see FSX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Steam SFX It is definitely installed - just did the basic test flight - full file in Explorer Just tested Central again - only brings up P3D and XP11 - no FSX!! Scenery lists just the usual FSX basic install - but mentions Orbx 2nd line which may be a hang on from earlier install that I dropped in May - Australia is the 3rd line Just reinstalled Central - no change - I don't think is i the cause - But one strange thing - is the page doesn't fit in full ie extend downwards to show the settings button etc as shown on the Orbx home screen Central Downloads Sometime ago - I tried to tell the Central guys that it will not fit on my 43"4K screen - which means that I can.t access all of the screen at once I tied all they suggested inc screen shape etc. Screen is TV but run by Nvidia @ 3840x2160 native I think they gave up - I heard no more This SS is what I always get - and after sliding the screen around - I get to read and download/install what I want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Hello, you might be able to resize Orbx Central by editing C:\Users\your name\AppData\Roaming\Orbx\Central\central.json The red numbers determine the size. Also what level have you set the Windows scaling to? "window": { "height": 880, "width": 1506, "x": 102, "y": 40, "isMaximized": false Try resetting the FSX registry entry this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, you might be able to resize Orbx Central by editing C:\Users\your name\AppData\Roaming\Orbx\Central\central.json The red numbers determine the size. Also what level have you set the Windows scaling to? "window": { "height": 880, "width": 1506, "x": 102, "y": 40, "isMaximized": false Try resetting the FSX registry entry this way. Hello Again Nick Sorry to be a pain First I tried you Central sizing trick but it didn't work - on Opening Central oversizes width by 5"/6 " on the 43 " screen and the height is short by "x" amount which equates to all on original splash screen Orbx Direct missing from aircraft downwards In other words the mods failed 2 screenshots show what I am missing - and what I get ------ and the other - the mods and original entry I went thro the whole of your Tweak trick - exactly - but no change apparent when Central loaded ie No FSX offered for installation as per previous SS --- each step was exactly as you demonstrated I repeat FSX is working OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Me again Nick - "one Small Step for some - But for me??? I have again (3x) gone thro the Registry Tweak as per your instructions - see SS 1 Can you see anything I missed? - (and yes! - I did press exit each time) Second SS shows exactly what I get on my 43" - when bringing up Central Just a thought ?? - If somehow (???) - I can reinstall the old Central - maybe that will work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 second doesn't appear to have shown - Here it is again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Hello, do you now have the choice of FSX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Hi Nick I didn't have 3 hours ago when the boss lady was screaming for me to come and get my dinner - but by mistake - I turned the comp off --something that I do not normally do - preferring it to "sleep" I've just come back on the comp. - started the Comp. - and got a Central that fit the screen immediately with the words Steam - FSX - and I went to Global - and it said --- "INSTALL" Bingo!!!!!! Nick - many thanks for your precious time and your help - may I offer a small piece of advice?? Just add "Restart" immediately after press "Enter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 @nick final note --- all my Orbx installed in FSX - steam Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just when you think you have it good - fate attacks you again !!! To recap all above - I finally got Central to install all my Orbx scenery - into FSX.SE except the UK TEs as pointed out by Nick - and I thought Central gave me a full screen The reason for going back to FSX was purely mercenary in that I found I could get some of the old British A/c of my time in the war and the 50s/60s - cheap on just flight and some freebies elsewhere Ever since I went from my 43" HD monitor (N vidia driven) - to the latest HDR 4K - I have had lots of problems with all the sims from picture size - small print - etc - the list is long - P3D not so bad - XP 11 just tolerable at 200% - but it is was particularly bad with FSX.SE - that all the foregoing was all about. (No sim seems to have caught up with 4K resolution - and 8K is on the horizon) So today I changed my whole set ups - to return my PC to the old 43" HD 1K monitor - and just use the 4K for X Box One X gaming Testing P3D and an improved XP 11 - FSX.SE was back to how it used to be years ago - when I could read the settings etc Took my first flight - Tiger Moth - from GC airport YBCG - and one again there were Trees sticking up on the hard standing I remembered Graham Eccleston's solution given to someone else in November - and worked for me as well last month - and I also tried my Orbx Moorabbin A/P and lots of little black squares all over the place " - select Settings/Insertion Point. Tick the option Enable Legacy Layering and close Orbx Central." I went to Central - which updated itself from 033 - to 048? - and once again I could not get a full screen as I should that shows Settings - personal info etc.- so I couldn't try Grahams solution - because since - Utilities were added to the page - the greater depth is not available for ---- Settings - Orbx customer - My products - Downloads etc In windows I changed the HD 1K size settings from 150% recommended - to 100% and 125% as offered. and now Central will not appear in full window no matter what size is set - although it sits in the task bar. Complete Uninstall - (inc CC registry) - and reinstall - gives no change So my problem of trees etc - and use of settings in Central - is not available to me - because I cannot get any Central - of any size! Nick - I need your help again -Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Hello John, please try deleting C:\Users\your name\AppData\Roaming\Orbx\Central\central.json. This will remove all your preferences but should also reset the screen position and location of Orbx Central. As an aside, I now have two identical 2k monitors. They are both connected by Display Port. The PC does not therefore detect them when it boots unless they are already on. I find that if neither is on at boot time, I see very small icons and text when one is switched on and that if I have one switched on, load P3D and then switch the second one on, when full screen is selected, P3D disappears from both screens. If both are on when I start P3D, it works as expected. I suppose the crux of my point is that software of all kinds does not respond well to changes to the configuration of monitors and/or their screen resolutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 Thanks Nick - Have done that - but no change - Central still on task bar - admin privs - no main picture its way past an old man's bedtime - so first thing tomorrow - I will do another clean out - of both \local and \roaming in user - crap clean - re-install -- reboot with monitor on - (Samsung 43" tv 1980 x1080 - driven by N vidia 1050TI) and cross fingers Should Central appear on screen - I will then try the window resizes - they recommend 150% or is there anywhere else I can find the settings With the new Central - ie in the last 36 hours - can you scribe down in the P3D page - down to the bottom so many items on the page - lot more than XP11- but no settings there either nitre nite John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hi Nick Fingers crossed seems to have worked - TW!! I did all that I said - deleted every thing I could find on Central - crap cleaned - restarted. Orbx direct - installed Central - all sims showing - and went thro all installation questions - restarted Went to Page P3D and page stopped at Utilities - XP at me (JTH) - FSX.SE stopped at utilites All attempted in windows screen set up 150% Dropped window setting to 100% - full central screen obtained on all sims - and no reduction in font size Did the Graham Eccleston solution - in FSX SE - and now I can park my Tiger Moth on concrete that has no trees YCGC back to normal - exercise completed - returned to 150% because in other functions EG Browser - Fonts are tiny. So - it looks to me - that 2 things need to be sorted with developers of various sims and accessories They have not yet caught up with 4K monitors of any size - ie - 3840x2160 UHD resolution. ( 8K is here already) and are not designing size elements for large screen monitors - ie 43" TVs of either 4 K UHD - or 1K HD - 1920x1080 This is partly recognised by Windows automatically recognising large screens - and recommending 150% for HD - and 300% for UHD - in settings and XP11 that makes provision for 200% screen size - except for the font size of screen menus. Nick - you said - "I suppose the crux of my point is that software of all kinds does not respond well to changes to the configuration of monitors and/or their screen resolutions." I think we have just proved it!! - (please chat with the Central developers in the case of Orbx Central) (PS - JV is on record of using 8K for sizing tests) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 As an addition to the foregoing screed - even after doing the GE trick in FSX SE the following screenshots show abnormalities at Orbx Moorabbin Airport - and the home of Orbx - Essendon in AV2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hello John, please see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heaton Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello John, please see here. I took step one since it was the easiest and comments on google seemed to think that direct X wasn't important in FSX - P3D is taken care of with direct 11 So no blocks any more - as I can see in 3 short flights around OZ and Paris Thanks again -but I have another query leading from all above in the next Item Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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