caveney747 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Hello I have just done a clean install of p3d v4.5HF1 and the new ORBX central. I have installed EU England and EU Scotland and HD trees but I have a problem that I have never seen before while using ORBX scenery. Basically there are yellow or dark brown patches all over the scenery. The areas outside of these patches look fine, but the patches just look like a solid colour with trees, nothing else. The yellow patches seem to be in the Scotland area and the brown patches in the England area! As I have only just moved to this new method of installing scenery outside of the simulator I have absolutely no idea how to get rid of the problem. I haven't installed any other scenery that could be having an effect. Any help would be much appreciated. Clive Caveney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 I would appreciate some ORBX technical support for this issue! Transaction I.D for EU Scotland product is Transaction ID: 58dad8b125b24 I have tried verifying the files, Synchronising the sim and I have uninstalled the area and re-installed but the problem remains and the patches are always in the same places. To me it looks like missing or corrupt textures in these areas but as a re-installation resulted in exactly the same problem I can only assume it is a problem with the downloaded files! The main area affected is between Inverness (EGPE) and Aberdeen (EGPD). If you take off from Inverness Runway 05 and fly towards Aberdeen you will see them all over the place! I look forward to hearing from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello Clive Welcome to the forum Have you set correctly your insertion points? Are you libraries updated? Is your Orbx objects flow installed and ticked? I'm going to do a test flight in the area you mention Regards Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello Clive Sorry but what I found was a fascinating area to fly around Please verify the items I asked about above Did you migrate the products or did you just install them as new? Sim root or outside? When you say: I have just done a clean install of p3d v4.5 did you also installed Global Base? I have the impression this one goes yet in the root of P3D.. Please verify and report for an expert to assist you Regads Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello Carlos Thank you for your reply, I will try to answer your questions. I installed the scenery using the new Orbx Central, a fresh install - not migration - to a completely separate ssd to the one the simulator is installed on using the new addon.xml method. With regards to insertion points, I presumed that Orbx Central took care of that during installation and if not I do not know how to move anything because it is greyed out in the Scenery Library. As I said I am completely new to this type of installation outside the simulator but the insertion points look OK to me. Libraries are installed and up to date and Object Flows is installed and ticked. I have not yet installed any of the global products, just the two regions England and Scotland and a couple of airports. I have tried verifying files on all the products and even re-installed Scotland but the problem remains the same. Below are two screenshots to help describe the problem. I have used Orbx products for many years using the in-sim installation and never had a problem before. I hope someone can help . Thanks for your time! Regards Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello, this problem has been reported in the past and was due to the Open LC scenery library entries being misplaced in the scenery.cfg file. Pehaps this is a symptom of the remaining problems with the xml layering. In the Orbx Central forum, it is suggested to enable "advanced layering". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello Nick So can I enable advanced layering now and it will hopefully sort out the problem or do I have to un-install and re-install everything after I turn it on? Regards Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 I just enabled 'Advanced Layering' and it said my scenery library had been successfully re-ordered but when I did a trial flight the problem was still there. Should I un-install everything and start again with Advanced Layering enabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 I have just noticed a peculiar entry in the scenery Library which seems to have both England and Scotland in the title as shown below. Is this correct or an error? There is a separate FTX_EU_ENG_05_SCENERY entry higher up the list. FTX_EU_ENG_05_SCENERY Orbx EU Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, caveney747 said: Should I un-install everything and start again with Advanced Layering enabled? No, no need to do that I though it was an issue with the land class as confirmed by Nick Now that you have advanced layering enabled I would uninstall OLC Europe and will re install ( it would be best to just verify files, but sometimes this doesn't work, at least for me, so I would reinstall the product) If you'd like to give it a try and test. As per Nick's post it seems to me this is something Orbx is working on solving yet. Cheers Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 I do not have OLC Europe installed!!! Only Scotland and England regions. I will just un-install everything and try again with advanced layering. If it doesn't work I will post back and probably return to the old method. Thanks Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Open LC would be over ridden by the regions in any case, or at least it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hi Clive Ok sorry, just saw in the site these regions don't require OLC EU I think you won't need to uninstall everything as that requires a lot of time why don't you just delete the scenery file and let P3D create a new one? then close your P3D and run Orbx Central for it to create an Orbx scenery? Is a faster way... Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, Nick Cooper said: Open LC would be over ridden by the regions in any case, or at least it should be. Noted, thanks Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello Carlos No, it didn't work- same problem. However I only re-installed Scotland and the peculiar entry I mentioned above was back in the scenery library even though it is for England (ENG) which I haven't installed! This does not seem right to me - could this be the problem and need investigating? Can you think of anything else or should I just give up and return to FTX Central? Cheers Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello Carlos I tried deleting the Scenery.cfg as you suggested but no luck i'm afraid. Any thoughts on this strange Library Entry I mentioned or am I barking up the wrong tree? Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello, why not try uninstalling Scotland and reinstalling it to the Prepar3D v4 Folder. If your problem goes away, you have your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean. Do you mean install Scotland Inside the sim with FTX Central (i.e go back to the old way) or to still Install it with Orbx Central to a library located in the Prepar3D v4 folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello, Orbx Central gives you two options. Please choose the one on the left. The Orbx Central User guide is also here https://orbx.to/central-guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Understood, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Scotland now inside the Prepar3D v4 folder and the problem is still there, so I presume this means it is nothing to do with the new Installation method. Where do I go from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Can you provide a copy of your scenery.cfg file please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 File attached, thanks. scenery.cfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Thanks. Can you try deleting your terrain.cfg file and let P3D build another. Then run Rezynchronise simulator. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Tried that, problem still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Good Morning Nick I have done some more flying around and found that this problem only exists between Inverness and approximately Dundee on the East coast. I also found some black patches in that area. The rest of Scotland is absolutely fine. If this was a Land Class or layering problem, wouldn't it affect the whole of the Scotland area? Would opting out of Fastlane, for a more stable Orbx Central during installation, help? Regards Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Hello, local problems are often the result of added software. Do you have any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 UK2000 Inverness Extreme Airport, not much else as I have just started a fresh install of the flight sim on a new computer. Would that cause problems as far down as Dundee though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I doubt if UK 2000 airports have any effect on landclass. I will move the topic to the Orbx Central forum, as this apparently followed your installation outside the P3D v4 folder. They may be able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 No you are right, Just tried disabling it and it made no difference. Any thoughts on opting out of Fastlane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 You can if you wish but each new version contains new fixes and you would be depriving yourself of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 OK, so I just have to live with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 If there is a problem that the Orbx developers can address, I am sure that they will, just not at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Sorry, I wasn't aware that the Developers were involved - no one had said that. I certainly wouldn't expect them to address it over the weekend. If it is in their hands I will wait for a reply in due course. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Hi Clive At the very start you said: On 9/20/2019 at 10:03 AM, caveney747 said: I haven't installed any other scenery that could be having an effect. But now you said you have UK2000 Inverness Extreme Airport... Any way there is no issue with it unless you have not ticked the compatibility with Orbx and left blank the I use a photo scenery... There should not be issues but please check your configuration just to be sure this is not the reason Just noticed this area below the plane was made too greyish while in real life has a nicer look but that's how it was made, it has no relation with the 3rd party add-on Hope this helps somehow Cheers Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hi Carlos Yes, sorry I forgot to mention Inverness Extreme Airport. However I have set the correct option for FTX Scotland in the options and I have also tried disabling the add-on, but still have the problem. I have since found other problems such as black patches and a large Concrete coloured square over the centre of Loch Ness, so I am hoping this is all a symptom of Orbx Central that the development team will eventually sort out. Thanks very much for your continued efforts to try and sort this out for me, it is much appreciated! Best regards Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hi Carlos I just looked more closely at the photos you took in the 737 and the yellow patches I have seem to correlate exactly with areas showing Very dark green trees on your photos. For instance in your 3rd Photo the area directly under the tail of the plane, which you can see as a yellow patch in the 1st photo I posted above the windscreen wiper! I don't know if this is of any relevance or could point to a problem? Cheers Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 FYI, the patch above Loch Ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveney747 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hey Carlos Sorry to keep posting, but I just noticed it looks like you also have the grey patch above Loch Ness, see your 4th photo, far left behind the 737 tail. Maybe this is a separate issue to the yellow patches as you also have it! I'll shut-up now! Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Hi Clive I noticed what you said about the picture. It seems you have a deforestation issue. Have you tried to uninstall reinstall the trees? As per the gray square yes I had it for long until yesterday. Trying to help you I remember that gray square and made a post about it and I was told about Nessie, so I did a research and found the fix It seems it was a monster, Nessie But for some reason the animation never worked for me only this gray square Go to your ORBX\FTX_EU\FTX_EU_SCO_05_SCENERY\scenery and 01.- Remove: FTX_EU_SCO_VFRobjects_OBX.BGL or put it off 02.- Download the enclosed bgl and paste in this this same route FTX_EU_SCO_VFRobjects_OBX_No_Nessie.bgl They should look this way in your Scotland scenery folder should look like this: Give it a try to reinstalling the trees and see if it works too. Regards Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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