answered Airfield with trees and bushes and slopes

[Fede_IT]

Hi all,
bought and installed OpenLC NA last night and I'm now having a few troubles with airport elevation, well some of them at least. Here are a couple of them, in the same area.

 

Firat one is 6NK8. The aiport is somewhere down there, you an see the straight white line just above the left wing. There are bushes trees slopes...everything but the runway. Vector is configured and 6NK8 appears in the "enabled" part. Basically, while I was approaching the field there was a strange mountain where the airport is, which started disappearing as I was approaching, like slices coming off...and the runway, or what it looks like, appeared...

 

 

This is another one carved in, and it doesn't appear nor in the enabled or the disabled section of the vector config tool: 1NY8. This was the opposite. I couldn't see anything, then it appeared in the hole.

 

 

Of course I can't tell you that these two airports were ok before installing OpenLC NA (I'm using OpenLC EU for a while, and everything's fine) but I had a few flights yesterday and last week in the same area and I could see many little airfields along the way, so I suppose they were ok... don't know...

I even tried disabling the 2 OpenLC NA entries in the scenery.cfg, but nothing changed. I looked at the various entries in the cfg and they are all in place.

 

Is there anything else I can try? Running on FSX:SE and Win10

Thanks a lot,
Fede

[Doug Sawatzky]

Hi Fede, welcome to the forums

 

Please first apply the below procedure.

 

Ensure the Orbx Libs are installed and up to date. (is there a blue notification above the settings button in FTXC3?)

Ensure all of your 3rd party addons are at the top of your scenery library and above your FTX entries.

Then in FTX Central 3 Insertion points, move "FTX entries should be inserted below"  just below your last 3rd party addon.

Then move the "openLC entries should be inserted below"  just below your FTX entries. and click "Save".

 

Then run the "Force Migration" option.

Finally Click on the "Clear Temp" button.

Then, if you have Vector installed, there is a Vector control panel access button at the bottom of the FTXC3 settings page. When you open it you can select the amount of road coverage etc, be sure to uncheck the "Frozen Surface (in winter only)"option, and check the Australia Add-Ons under the “Settings” tab, then go to the Airport Elevation Correction (AEC tool) tab and run the auto configuration process and be sure to click on "Appy" when it is done scanning.

 

Cheers

 

Doug

[Fede_IT]

Thanks Doug, I will check all of this and report back.

 

Cheers 

[Fede_IT]

Just to make sure, I haven't got many 3rd party addons, I have some FSG meshes, PNG stuff, but I want to be sure. When you say below the last 3rd party addon, you mean "any" kind of, even the addon scenery folder of FSX itself? 
I'm now working through all of it. Oh, and you got me curious: why the frozen option must be unchecked? No big deal if I have to switch it off, just wondering why.

Thanks again

[Fede_IT]

Nothing to do, sorry... I tried doing the process twice, but the result was just the same, no changes... any other ideas?

Thanks
Fede

[Nick Cooper]

Hello,

 

These two airfields are default.

 

6NK8 requires that the Vector AEC is disabled for it.

Other than the apparently unnecessary Vector AEC, there are no FTX files at all for this airfield.

Your main problem with it, however, is that it is not in your screen shot but behind you and to your right.

 

Your screen shot replicated.

 

The airfield is not where you are looking.

 

There are also no files for 1NY8 in the ORBX folder and for me, it looks like this:

 

The presence of the white runway start marker in your first screen shot suggests that you have a second version of 6NK8.

The elevation problem in your second shot might be a spurious elevation adjustment file in scenery\world\scenery.

Try a search for the ICAO codes outside the ORBX folder.

[Fede_IT]

Hi Nick, I'll look for those files, but my installation is quite fresh and, as I said, I have very little add-ons, Orbx apart. In North America none at all. Anyway, I'll look.

The airfield is enabled by the vector config by default. The pic you see was made simply by lifting off from runway start with slew mode. If I disable it, things get even worse, it looks like being floating on a transparent runway. I'm outside now, but I'll post some pics when I go home.
When I enable it... I have a mountain in front of me at the starting point...

Anyway, I'll post later

Thanks

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[Fede_IT]

So

 

 

As i was saying, these two are from the same spot, ground and above with slew, runway 09 starting point.

This is what happens if I turn AEC off


I was thinking about FSG meshes...? Can it be the cause...?

[Nick Cooper]

Hello,

there is something very wrong with the default airports in your simulator.

You should check that all your default scenery library entries are there, active and in the right order.

If you do not know how to do this, please attach a copy of your scenery.cfg file to your next post and I will take a look.

You will find the scenery.cfg file at C:\programdata\Microsoft\FSX

[Fede_IT]

There you are Nick, much appreciated

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Thanks a lot

[Nick Cooper]

It looks like the only add ons are My Traffic, try disabling that.

[Fede_IT]

Still doesn't work... :-(

[Nick Cooper]

Do you find anything if you search for the ICAO codes?

[Fede_IT]

I only find these: 

AEC_6nk8

APT_6nk8

 

And the .inactive one. They're all ORBX, though

[Nick Cooper]

You need to disable AEC for 6NK8, as I mentioned before.

Also, you need to look in the right place for it.

[Fede_IT]

Yes, ok, I tried disabling it, but it didn't change anything, it got things worse, but I'll disable again. And I search in my entire SSD for FSX, I wouldn't know where else to look...?

[Doug Sawatzky]

Hi Fede

 

Is your FSX updated to SP2 or Acceleration?

 

Sorry, yes I see that detail in your OP.

 

[Fede_IT]

Steam actually

[Nick Cooper]

Hello,

I was looking at P3Dv4, where the airfields look fine.

I have now looked in FSX and indeed, they do not.

Please stand by while I look for a solution.

[Fede_IT]

Thanks Nick ;-)



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[Nick Cooper]

Hello,

here is 6NK8.

Vector AEC must be disabled.

 

Default FSX

 

 

All Orbx products, no add on mesh

 

 

Add on mesh

 

 

It certainly shouldn't be up here.

 

 

 

 

 

It looks like Open LC has removed the airport background and that the flatten isn't working.

 

There seems to be a huge mismatch between the 1350 feet elevation that is reported in FSX, also

in the few real world databases and the 420 feet or so elevation of the surrounding addon mesh.

 

 

I have spent a bit of time on this and it now looks like this

 

 

I attach the files, this version will not work without addon mesh.

Files.zip

 

[Nick Cooper]

1NK8.

 

All Orbx products, no add on mesh.

 

Add on mesh

You will need the Pilot's AFM to fix this one.

Nothing to do with Orbx products.

[Fede_IT]

Thanks a lot Nick! 

Cheers
Fede