pannellgj Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Not sure what happened recently, but ever since I installed a France VFR scenery of Paris and attempted to integrate its autogen with ORBX, I've been unable to fly in Europe. Not sure if those two are connected in any way. I've uninstalled and reinstalled all my ORBX European scenery; I've unchecked all the vector scenery, the ORBX Base scenery, all 3rd party European airports using Scenery Config Editor v1.1.9, and still when I upload a European airport, I might get a partial load of the scenery, but then P3D disappears. I'm having no problem flying in NA, SA, or Oceania. Any help would be appreciated. Garland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hello, If that is all of your scenery.cfg file, entries 0 to 19 are missing. No simulator will run like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Nick, Sorry; let's try that again: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hello, Please simply attach a copy of the file to your next post instead. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thanks Nick. See attached file... Garland scenery.cfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hello, Please use FTX Central's Insertion Point tool to reorder the scenery library. Set the FTX icon just below the lowest of your other add ons. Set the OLC icon just below the FTX icon and click on Save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'll give that a shot. Thanks Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 No luck. I started out at AYPY and attempted to change the location to a place in GEN and it got hung up at 80% before it froze. I restarted the sim and attempted to go to a small airport in ENG and didn't even get past 0% loading before the sim disappeared, without warning, as it had done over the past few weeks, whenever I attempted a flight anywhere in GEN, GES, ENG, NOR, IRL, NIRL. There's a conflict that's not present in NA, SA, AU, or NZ, and I'm not smart enough to know where to begin to look for it. I'm ready to answer any questions or follow any suggestions from those of you who are experienced in these sorts of things... Garland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dow Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Can you completely uninstall France VFR ? That'll then let you know if ORBX scenery works. Traffic programs that aren't configured for {3D can cause CTDs, but I'm not sure about whether they prevent successful loading. If removing France VFR doesn't work, try unticking all your affected ORBX sceneries, then restoring them one by one, checking and rebooting the sim between each restore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well, I've unticked every ORBX airport in Europe, every ORBX LC scenery in Europe, every ORBX vector scenery, every European third party scenery, ORBX base, all the ORBX European regions, and while I can load and fly from NA, SA, and Oceanic Sceneries, the sim crashes to desktop whenever I type in a European ICAO. I even unticked MyTraffic Professional, and Addon Scenery. I have no idea what to do next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Try renaming your scenery.cfg file to scenery.cfg off. Also do the same to the Prepar3D.cfg file. Then start P3D, it will replace both cfg files and should then work correctly. If it does, please read on. If it does not, you will need to address the P3D problem before you can move on. My suggestion will remove all your addon scenery from the equation. You can add scenery back until you find the one that is causing you the problem. Until then, I would also recommend that you use only a default aircraft when testing. Your current scenery library, as attached is in the wrong order for FTX products, I would suggest that when testing you avoid making your own interpretation and use FTX Central instead. Please next use FTX Central to add back your FTX scenery library entries and make sure the order is correct, as I described above. Once FTX Central has added back just the FTX scenery library entries, please then run P3D v4 and check that it is still working before you add anything else. If you find that at this point, P3D v4 does work, please report back. It can take very little to make P3D v4 simply stop working with no error message. For example, one Fs9 model in the scenery will do it and in the case of aircraft, even one letter missing from certain parts of the aircraft.cfg file is enough. Your vast collection of other developers' addons could make finding the problem more difficult. If you follow what I posted above, all your other addons will remain above the FTX entries in the scenery library instead of below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Thanks Nick. I'll keep you posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Nick, I renamed the scenery.cfg to scenery.cfg off and the Prepar3D.cfg to Prepar3D.cfg off and restarted P3D. I'll follow the other instructions. Attached is the new cfg file. Will keep you posted... Garland scenery.cfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Assuming that P3D now works, the next thing to do is run FTX Central and let it add all the scenery library entries. The restart P3D and see if it still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Strange thing happened. I restarted the sim and it went to the default airport at Pensecola. I then attempted to place the default aircraft at an airfield in Germany and the sim disappeared again. I started the sim again and looked in the Addon Scenery under Options and there were several sceneries that I forgot to delete, but that didn't show up in the scenery.cfg. I'm going through them now to see if any of them is the culprit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hello, if they aren't in the scenery library, they will have no effect. I did see that you have an addon AI traffic product. The use of Fs9 models will cause the symptom you describe, the sudden disappearance of P3D v4. Try setting all your AI to zero and see if it will then keep running. It could be an AI aircraft that only appears in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 I did have an addon AI traffic, but I didn't see it in the rebuilt scenery.cfg file that I sent you and that I'm working with now. I sent you the rebuilt file as well. It's not in there anymore, unless I'm missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yes, the AI aircraft will display regardless of the scenery library. Try moving all the AI sliders to zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 The AI sliders were already set at zero. However, when I restarted the sim the second time, it loaded and I was able to go pretty much everywhere in Europe. I'll start FTX Central and start loading the sceneries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Something unexpected; I opened up FTX Central and it looked the same as it did before we deleted the old scenery.cfg. In other words, it shows all of my previous ORBX sceneries installed, even though there's new, rebuilt scenery.cfg. I expected FTX Central to show none of them installed. Am I wrong about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yes, FTX Central doesn't read the scenery.cfg file but the version files. If you leave it for 20 seconds or so, it will write in all the scenery library entries for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Another something unexpected; I closed FTX Central, restarted my computer, and started P3D and it didn't even complete the load before I got "error creating child window" and then the sim disappeared. I tried loading P3D again and it didn't complete the load before it disappeared once more. I went back to my scenery.cfg file in ProgramData/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3dv4 and the old scenery.cfg with all the previous scenery addons was back. That's happened before in the past and now it's happened again. How do I prevent the old scenery files from re-appearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Are you sure it is, can you attach the current scenery.cfg file? FTX Central should have written in just the FTX entries. No idea why you would see the child window error, P3D v4 is supposed to be immune from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Here it is... scenery.cfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Before this scenery.cfg re-appeared, the previous one did contain just the FTX entries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Nothing wrong with that, FTX Central has simply done what it should and written in the FTX scenery library entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Now I've renamed the scenery and P3D cfg files like before, and attempted to the restart the sim and it refuses to even load now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Possibly time to reboot your PC and start afresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Punishment for my sins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pannellgj Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Nick, Okay, I've reinstalled P3Dv4 and all the FTX scenery except for ORBX trees is installed by FTX Central. And I can place the default aircraft anywhere in the virtual world without a CTD. I still have a problem with ENG, IRL, NIR; there are no autogen trees. I have trees everywhere else. I'm not sure how there can still be a conflict. I've attached the newest scenery.cfg. Garland scenery.cfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The scenery library looks fine. I cannot say why you have no trees in just those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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