Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Hi. I have purchase the LOWI scenery but i'm having terrible performance. It's the only scenery with terrible performance. I have done a lot of testing but the result it's always the same and with dynamic lights i have 1fps..no way....I have a very good machine..so what could be the problem? Help would be appreciated Transaction ID: 585355beef0ae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Hello, Welcome to the forum. I found something similar in testing. I was advised to turn off traffic and that the default P3D AI aircraft are very poor performers with Dynamic lighting on. Please turn traffic down to zero and take another look around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 I don't use AI traffic...it's always set to 0 because i only fly online....i've allready make a lot of testing....i have bought the scenery today.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 It will be a setting. try reducing the AA settings a little. There are still settings in P3Dv4 that will reduce it to a crawl on any PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 I've allready reduce the AA settings...reduce all the setting sliders...but no way..i'm getting crazy...all my other scenery work great...hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Sorry, if you've done it all already, I will leave it to the developer to answer you. Jarrad is very good at supporting his products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 I'll wait..thank you for your effort anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 No one to tell me something ? Give me some support This is the only scenery that give me this bad performance..anyone with the same issues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 I have done the following test By day the scenery Works very well, i'm getting with PMDG in vcockpit about 48/50fps, outside getting arround 95/100fps By night with dynamic lights getting in vcokpit 1/2 FPS, outside 5/6 fps By night with legacy lights getting 3/4 in cockpit and outside 10/11fps. There is something in the scenery that is making me having this issue by night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 G'day Ricardo, This is highly unusual, we'll figure out what the cause is I suspect either a) something has gone wrong in your installation or b ) you have a non-ORBX product interfering. First up, for the following tests could you use a simple default aircraft, I recommend the Beech Baron or Piper Cub. This will ensure the problem isn't related to your addon aircraft (NGX etc). Also run tests with clear weather to ensure problems aren't being introduced with addon weather engines etc. 1. Do you have any other ORBX Payware airports installed? If so, could you please load up the baron or cub and run the following tests at both airports, reporting average FPS in each scenario: a) daytime runway, clear weather b ) night time runway, clear weather, dynamic lighting disabled. This will be done as a comparison test, so if you have any airports of similar size (Dubrovnik, Southampton, KPSP/KEGE/YBRM/KMRY/KRDD/KSAN etc) this will be helpful. 2. To further embellish on the AA settings - if you are using SSAA settings in P3D, could you please test at night with MMAA enabled instead? 3. Could you please post a couple of screenshots of what you see at LOWI. A couple of shots from the apron at day/night, and a couple of airport overview shots will be helpful. 4. Just checking that you have your ORBXlibs installed and up-to-date? 5. If none of these provide any clues, could you please list any products that may also be displaying in the general LOWI area. AI packages, terrain addons (Austria Pro HD west etc), addon mesh, other versions of LOWI (Justsim etc). Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 I will do more testing this saturday and report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 I deactivate the objectflow2 in FTX Central and voilá..no more terrible performance...at night getting in PMDG vcockpit 40/42 fps...at day 48/50fps..acceptable.....but don't see the rabbit Extended Approach Lightning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 G'day Ricardo, disabling the OF2 also removes a great deal of other important content at the airport, so this doesn't solve the issue for you, it just gives us a clue. I'd again recommend running through the points 1 thru 4 I made in my last post, and let us know the results. If you can't isolate the issue with these suggestions, I'd next recommend running an isolation test to see if you can work out which specific files are the cause: 1. Go to your ORBX/FTX_EU/FTX_AA_LOWI/scenery folder 2. Create a new temporary hold folder 3. Drop 50% of the all the files in your FTX_AA_LOWI/scenery folder (bgl, xml and .OFF types) into the temp hold holder, run the test. Add or remove more files to the temp folder depending on whether the problem file is active or not. Narrow down which bgl/xml file(s) are the problem. 4. You will need to restart P3D each time you do this test. The reason being that our ObjectFlow content will stay active even if the FTX_AA_LOWI folder is temporarily disabled in your scenery library (the same reason you saw ORBX lights/windsocks/vegetation when you loaded up Justsim LOWI) - this may potential cause false positive results. Disabling some of the bgl/xml files will give very obvious and major visual problems, but that's fine for the purposes of this performance test. Let me know how you go. Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Hello Jarrad. After a lot of testing and without this files with objectflow2 activated, at night the FPS are great. Of course the building are not ok. Perhaps something happening with these files Westsim_Innsbruck_PR_B_60cm.bgl Westsim_Innsbruck_PR_C_1m_Central.bgl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 G'day Ricardo, could you please disable all autogen via your P3D sliders - does this fix the issue? If yes, then does incrementally increasing the autogen density gradually reduce performance, or is there a particularly setting where a major hit/FPS-loss occurs? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Cirilo Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 The testing give me the following results ( Scenery Complexity is Very Dense) Autogen draw distance : Low Autogen vegetation density : None Autogen vegetation density : None Result : PMDG 737 vcockpit : 80/90FPS Night - 120/130 FPS Day Autogen draw distance : Medium Autogen vegetation density : Sparse Autogen vegetation density : Sparse Result : PMDG 737 vcockpit : 40/50FPS Night - 110/120 FPS Day Autogen draw distance : High Autogen vegetation density : Normal Autogen vegetation density : Normal Result : PMDG 737 vcockpit : 35/39FPS Night - 60/70 FPS Day Autogen draw distance : Very High Autogen vegetation density : Dense Autogen vegetation density : Dense Result : PMDG 737 vcockpit : 15/19 FPS Night - 50/55 FPS Day This one is my default and get very good performance at all my airports, including KJFK Autogen draw distance : Very high Autogen vegetation density : Very Dense Autogen vegetation density : Very Dense Result : PMDG 737 vcockpit : 1/5 FPS Night - 48/50 FPS Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Thanks for that info Ricardo. Going back to my original suggestions, could you now please try: (all with your personally preferred autogen settings) 1. Load a default aircraft - I recommend B58 or Piper Cub, and load LOWI at night. 2. Lower your P3D AA settings. Start with MSAAx8, and work your way down. Take note of performance. If you are still getting bad performance with lower MSAA settings (x4 or x2), could you please post a couple of overview screenshots of the airport at night, and one from the ramp. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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